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2007-08 NBDL Season

Post by mzracing76 » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:29 am

with the league expanding to 16 teams next season, hopefully we can play 56 games again. i hate these small seasons. 56 is perfect.

each team would play:
8-games within your division
4-games with the other division within conference
2-games vs each team from other conference.
***40 conference games, and 16 non-conference games


4-team divisions

top four teams make playoffs from each conference

and hopefully we can play a playoff series per each round

1) Divisional Series=best of five...2-2-1
2) Conference Finals=best of fice...2-2-1
3) League Finals=best of seven...2-3-2

the way it should be

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Post by Minor League Man » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:57 am

So the alignment would be:

WESTERN CONFERENCE:
NORTHWEST DIVISION
Bakersfield Jam
Colorado 14ers
Idaho Stampede
Utah Flash
SOUTHWEST DIVISION
Albuquerque T-Birds
Anaheim Arsenal
Los Angeles D-Fenders
Rio Grande Valley

EASTERN CONFERENCE:
MIDWEST DIVISION
Dakota Wizards
Fort Wayne (Fury?)
Iowa
Sioux Falls Skyforce
MID-SOUTH DIVISION
Arkansas RimRockers
Austin Toros
Fort Worth Flyers
Tulsa 66ers


Whaddaya think?
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Post by DakotaWizardsFan » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:31 pm

I'd love to see that sort of format and playoff series, but wouldn't the season get too long? Unless you would schedule games closer together, but then there's less practice time.

The season would go into May with this format.

The way you sorted out the divisions looks fine though.
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Post by flasah » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:07 pm

I think this works better:

WESTERN CONFERENCE:
PACIFIC DIVISION
Anaheim Arsenal
Bakersfield Jam
Los Angeles D-Fenders
Idaho Stampede

SOUTHWEST DIVISION
Albuquerque T-Birds
Colorado 14ers
Utah Flash
Tulsa 66ers

EASTERN CONFERENCE:
MIDWEST DIVISION
Dakota Wizards
Fort Wayne (Fury?)
Iowa
Sioux Falls Skyforce

SOUTH DIVISION
Arkansas RimRockers
Austin Toros
Fort Worth Flyers
Rio Grande Valley


Or else three divisions:

NORTH DIVISION
Colorado 14ers
Dakota Wizards
Fort Wayne (Fury?)
Iowa
Sioux Falls Skyforce

SOUTH DIVISION
Albuquerque T-Birds
Arkansas RimRockers
Austin Toros
Fort Worth Flyers
Rio Grande Valley
Tulsa 66ers

WEST DIVISION
Anaheim Arsenal
Bakersfield Jam
Los Angeles D-Fenders
Idaho Stampede
Utah Flash

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Post by Pounder » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:44 pm

Don't count those chickens yet... there's still eggs in the basket.

No evidence, just a hunch... and plenty of observed history. I'm thinking there will be a handful of teams going away.

BTW... gotta laugh at people placing Idaho and Utah in separate divisions. Alignments do not have to require putting square pegs in round holes for the sake of having consistent numbers.

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Post by USBasket_EricE » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:23 pm

I too like the 2-3 format. I never did care for the 2-2-1. Doesn't the NBA use 2-2-1-1 in all of their games, or have they changed it now?

By the way, I got a kick out of your signature, bectond!

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Post by mzracing76 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:15 am

The Alignment would be like this:

Eastern Conference:
...East Division
...Central Division

Western Conference:
...Midwest Division
...West Division

Now go and match up the teams...

there is nothign wrong with the 56 game schedule. we used it from 1989-01. 56 games is too many when you only have 10 or less teams. cause then you play each other 7-9 times. but when you have 16 teams, a 56-game schedule is Perfect. I just want a chance to top our all time record of 47-9, and we cant do that with a shortened season. it was fun actually winning 40 games a year back then. and you would have 28 home dates.

and yes, you would play more games within your division than the other conference, much less your opposite division.

Divisional Games..............24 games (8 per team)

Conference Games...........40 games (8 in your division, and 4 each opposite your division)

Non-Conference Games.....16 games (2 per team)

this is the way it was in the past, and i liked this schedule form.
the trick is aligning your divisions so your not traveling so much.
thus is the reason why you only play 16 non conference games.

1989-90 CBA Alignment:

American Conference-
Eastern Division:
1-Albany
2-Grand Rapids
3-Pensacola
4-Columbus

Central Division:
1-Quad City
2-Rockford
3-Lacrosse
4-Ceder Rapids

National Conference-
Midwest Division:
1-Rapid City
2-Sioux Falls
3-Omaha
4-Topeka/Yakima

Western Division:
1-Tulsa
2-Santa Barbara
3-San Jose
4-Wichita Falls

thats how our divisions were aligned in 89-90 of the CBA. and we played the above mentioned Number of Games. it was perfect. we used this for almost 6 years, it only changed when the league fell to 9 teams which is quite understandable.

i cant wait for 16 teams again.

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Post by Pounder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:29 pm

Excuse me for invoking a Dilberting of sorts...

"If you do what you done, you get what you got."

Usually, when there's a schedule reduction, it's an admission that most teams were losing money in operations. "There's nothing wrong" is way off the mark.

The CBA was already a shell of its heyday when Isiah Thomas nuked it. The leage's shot at going Phoenix means rethinking other parts of the operation (perhaps rule changes, perhaps presentation, perhaps scope), and probably not divisional alignments or revisiting long-gone markets. The CBA comes to mind because, of course, mz thinks reviving it is the way to go. There are things that the D-League can take away from it, and things that they can't... but I really do wonder if the D is going to morph in a completely different direction.

That direction- reducing the cost of developing players. College ball inflates and distorts the value of top talent... one need only look at the number of highly touted players who are busts in the NBA to figure that out. Using the D-League to actually develop young players under NBA rules (which isn't the case yet) is IMO both smarter and POTENTIALLY cheaper than letting the NCAA do the work.
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Post by bectond » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:54 pm

I’ll take that reply one step further my friend, it should be a criminal offense to subjugate a top notch athlete to play for such hacks (college coaches). It is a right to play pro ball and a condemnation to enlist on an NCAA team. The structural realities are contentious and the coaches can’t identify or teach a specific skill set properly. The culpability that the NBA is devoid of low post players should lie at the head of those ego manic coaches. The NBA needs to take over the development of American youngsters ASAP!
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Post by rams80 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:49 am

[quote=""bectond""]I’ll take that reply one step further my friend, it should be a criminal offense to subjugate a top notch athlete to play for such hacks (college coaches). It is a right to play pro ball and a condemnation to enlist on an NCAA team. The structural realities are contentious and the coaches can’t identify or teach a specific skill set properly. The culpability that the NBA is devoid of low post players should lie at the head of those ego manic coaches. The NBA needs to take over the development of American youngsters ASAP![/quote]

They play there for one year if they are truly top notch. College coaches, for the most part, are not hacks. If I were to take a stab at the two biggest problems for college-NBA transition...

Season length. (Solution, NBA shortens season, which would also end the glorified exhibition that is the NBA before January).

teamwork (or lack thereof on the NBA level). Solution? Change the culture of the NBA.
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