Maybe getting some traction . . .

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Maybe getting some traction . . .

Post by LordBy2014 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:42 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-t ... e-in-2017/

Depending on how they choose to go about it, this could be a game-changer for all other planned alternative outdoor football leagues still in the planning stages . . .

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Post by robster2001 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:27 am

It's a proposal about writing a document that might propose the idea of proposing a possible proposed NFL spring league.

It's a trial balloon. There's a long road between here and the NFL D-League. :)

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Post by 4th&long » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:41 am

[quote=""LordBy2014""]http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-t ... e-in-2017/

Depending on how they choose to go about it, this could be a game-changer for all other planned alternative outdoor football leagues still in the planning stages . . .

Thoughts/comments?[/quote]

There is too much money in FB to allow an upstart league an opportunity to fill the void.

There are differing reasons for an NFL dev league, the coaches have their reasons and they aren't the same as the owners.

A spring league? Tells me they are concerned that a SLAF or other upstart will fill the void. By the NFL just talking, its a paper tiger to scare off upstart investors and media partners.
There are just too many large cities today that can support pro FB and too many media outlets looking for live content. NFL wants a monopoly

Add to that the rules changes the NFL has added and constant replay and penalty delays and any league will look nimble compared to the NFL.

So in the end this move, paper tiger or real, is just an NFL cock block to prevent the next UFL FXFL or SLAF. Which is what the WLAF was in its day.

Let's see what the next moves are... :rolleyes:

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Post by suge night » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:48 am

Here's something that may already be on their radar.
http://www.regionaldevelopmentfootballleague.com

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Post by Renandpat » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:56 pm

[quote=""suge night""]Here's something that may already be on their radar.
http://www.regionaldevelopmentfootballleague.com[/quote]

Their bylaws were adopted in March 2014.

Not much action since.

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Post by suge night » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:56 pm

Posted Jul 25/16 - Teams and League Announcement

The RDFL Academy Institute, this is the educational arm within the concept the RDFL Lab 1 Classroom falls within this section.

All the technical training and classroom session operate under the RDFL academy institute, coaches training and processes through educational training are used curriculum content all fall under this system.

The league will operate as The Texas Football League this is the game schedule section, the history of the league name goes back to the 1960's and early 70's and was part of a bigger league that once attempted to take on the NFL in the early formation merger period between the AFL/NFL.

The Texas Renegades will operate and base in Cleburne,Texas where a new 2500 seat stadium is currently under construction and expected to open in March of 2017. Other team points will be announced shortly initially 12 teams will form the base over a period of time, later to eventually host 18 teams.

A meeting held on July 18,2016 between league representives and former Superbowl MVP Pittsburg Steelers player Santonio Holmes on ownership opportunities went well Holmes and his finanical people had plenty of questions, and left the meeting satisfied with the overall concept and business plan.

Holmes use to being number one in endeavor's he has interest in, took this same approach with his engagement within the RDFL academy institute.

He and a number of other current and former players have interest in the concept and developing athletes, The TFL will not attempt to build the entire product in one season and has a plan for long term development, interest in the league is coming in from a lot of different camps and what makes this significant is the league isn't initiating the contact points.

While there is still a lot of work to do, the RDFL academy will simply tend to its business and are not attempting or interested in generating large scale media or fan interest after all, how much attention is disired by a development academy program in it's early building stages and considering this is a non- commercial venture.

There are set numbers in place to strive for and hit during a fiscal cycle, and if those are obtained the data will dictate how well growth and scale opportunities are moving into the future and proof of concept detailed in the data.

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Post by Sam Hill » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:05 am

[quote=""4th&long""]There is too much money in FB to allow an upstart league an opportunity to fill the void.[/quote]

No upstart league could fill whatever void you seem to think there is. Not without a ridiculous amount of investment. Football is just too expensive and there is no way to recoup that money without major TV money.

And despite your idea that there are "too many" media outlets that need programming, there are NOT "too many" with billions of dollars lying about to waste on televising football games between teams with no history and no marketable players.
There are just too many large cities today that can support pro FB
Name 'em. (Ones that don't currently have pro football, that is.)

St. Louis
San Antonio
Portland
Sacramento?
Orlando?
Las Vegas?

You see how far you have to go down the list of metropolitan areas just to get a six-team league?

No matter how many times you insist that the solution for this perceived "void" is just an easy startup away, no matter how many times you latch onto whatever league comes down the pike next, no matter how many people try or don't even get off the drawing board because there's apparently nowhere near the interest you seem to think there is, you never, ever stop.

The XFL, the UFL and the FXFL are the only outdoor leagues that have ever even taken the field since the USFL folded. The XFL lost millions of dollars, the UFL never did play a complete season and also lost millions of dollars and the FXFL was an underfinanced charade run by a pathological liar whose endgame was getting bought by the NFL.

The A11FL didn't make it past their press conference. The NAFL is vaporware. MLFB is probably a scam, but it's certainly run by people with no clue. The USFL will be waiting to acquire all its financing until we're all old and gray.

Yet you continue to insist there's this huge opportunity there.

At what point will you face facts?
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Post by Aaronhere » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:29 am

1) Without each team getting a specific "farm club", how will one "develop" a quarterback? I can see two teams with projects being at odds with each other over playing time down on the development team. Also, what are the odds of a team, that has invested millions or a high draft pick in a quarterback, putting the player at risk of being hurt in a meaningless game in AAA?
2) Say you go with two teams per development team, that means you still have to fund 16 cities to place these teams. I figured that you need one parent team from each conference for each team. Here is my best shot:
ATLANTIC
Hartford (New England and NY Giants)
Syracuse (Buffalo and Philadelphia)
Norfolk (NY Jets and Washington)
West Virginia (Baltimore and Detroit)
SOUTH
Orlando (Miami and Tampa Bay)
Mobile (Jacksonville and Atlanta)
Birmingham (Cleveland and Carolina)
Shreveport (Cincinnati and New Orleans)
CENTRAL
Memphis (Tennessee and Minnesota)
Oklahoma City (Pittsburgh and Chicago)
San Antonio (Houston and Dallas)
Louisville (Indianapolis and Green Bay)
PACIFIC
Salt Lake City (Denver and Arizona)
Las Vegas (Kansas City and San Francisco)
Portland (San Diego and Seattle)
Sacramento (Oakland and LA Rams)

Even an eight-team league has issues finding places where there will be any interest, but here is a shot - and I am going to assume at this point we are looking at a spring league.
EAST
Hartford (AFC East)
Norfolk (NFC East)
Orlando (AFC South)
Birmingham (NFC South)
WEST
Las Vegas (AFC West)
Salt Lake City (NFC West)
Oklahoma City (NFC North)
San Antonio (AFC North)

3) What network will broadcast? It does not seem the ratings in the NFL right now are going to support a huge boost in TV rights fees. NFL Network? Youtube? Where do you put the games?

I think the NFL had its shot with the WLAF/NFL Europe and could not stomach the financial losses - what makes them think a rebirth of such a league would work?

Oh well, just some random thoughts on a rainy night in the Wisconsin hinterlands....
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Post by nksports » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:44 pm

Almost all those cities would fail with any type of minor league football (maybe Hartford). Why? Almost all of those cities are invested in major college football. There would be no fan interest in anything outside the NFL and college football. That means no sponsors, no TV, and no $$$$$. The NFL got a return on investment in terms of player development in NFL-Europe, but lost enough $$$ that owners lost interest and pulled the plug.
Again, this goes back to the fact that the player pool to draw on is so large, there is no reason to invest money in a minor league.

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from CBS Sports.com Jason La Canfora

Post by LordBy2014 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:47 pm

NFL's D-League proposal gaining steam

The NFL football operations department is making a strong push for a developmental league or academy at the ongoing league meetings. From what I gathered some of the initial proposals didn't wow the general managers that the league met with Tuesday, though a more wide-ranging pitch to owners is scheduled for Wednesday.

Some teams would prefer to have expanded practice squads with additional spring practice time, but I wouldn't discount the NFL's initiatives here. It has strong support within 345 Park Avenue and this is something that could be brought to an ownership vote in the spring, I'm told.

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