RGIII and Collin Kaepernick

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Post by fonzob1 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:23 am

[quote=""Sam Hill""]Probably, given Canadians of color aren't being murdered in the streets in nearly the same numbers up there as down here.

I mean, you understand the protests, right? Right? You're not just superficially looking at it from the perspective of "my flag, my song, that's all that matters," right?[/quote]

Do you know what the statistics are up there and down here? How many people of color are killed by law enforcement in America each year?

Superficial... *scoff*
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Post by Sam Hill » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:13 am

Go **** yourself.

Police killed 1,129 people in the United States in 2017. That's just the ones we know of. And despite being only 13% of the population, African-Americans made up 25% of those killed.

Another 228 (20%) were Hispanic. Combining other races, we're talking about 550 (69 were of unknown race) people of color killed by police in the US in 2017.

Canada has between 15-25 police killings per year in a population a tenth of ours. Just our people of color killed by police are more than twenty times their rate of total killings by police.

Superficial that, idiot.

But Kaepernick's protest (and that of other NFL players) is and has always been about more than that. He laid it out succinctly within days of it becoming a "thing." Yet the message has been twisted by whites like yourself who make it all about disrespecting the flag and/or the military or biting the hand that feeds "these greedy athletes" who apparently don't know how good they have it because they're obviously not getting killed.

They're standing up (or kneeling for) those who have no voice. Who have no platform. The people who are overlooked and disregarded by whites like yourself who make the protests a punchline or a point of contention.
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Post by fonzob1 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:53 am

[quote=""Sam Hill""]Go **** yourself.

Police killed 1,129 people in the United States in 2017. That's just the ones we know of. And despite being only 13% of the population, African-Americans made up 25% of those killed.

Another 228 (20%) were Hispanic. Combining other races, we're talking about 550 (69 were of unknown race) people of color killed by police in the US in 2017.

Canada has between 15-25 police killings per year in a population a tenth of ours. Just our people of color killed by police are more than twenty times their rate of total killings by police.

Superficial that, idiot.

But Kaepernick's protest (and that of other NFL players) is and has always been about more than that. He laid it out succinctly within days of it becoming a "thing." Yet the message has been twisted by whites like yourself who make it all about disrespecting the flag and/or the military or biting the hand that feeds "these greedy athletes" who apparently don't know how good they have it because they're obviously not getting killed.

They're standing up (or kneeling for) those who have no voice. Who have no platform. The people who are overlooked and disregarded by whites like yourself who make the protests a punchline or a point of contention.[/quote]

I get that the deaths are disproportionate based on the percentages of races in the United States, but it's not as though law enforcement isn't killing white people as well. Law enforcement should be held more accountable when they use excessive force against anyone, but the problem in general is not the epidemic some claim it to be. An exorbitant amount more people died from the flu last year than at the hands of law enforcement.

And there is nothing "superficial" about refusing to stand for the anthem. It's no different than burning a flag as a form of protest. The reality, despite what Kaepernick or anyone else says, is that it represents pissing on the nation as a whole. If you burn a flag and say it's only protest of a single issue, and not a disrespect to the nation as a whole, then you lack the cognitive skills needed to comprehend what you're actually doing.
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