ESPN's Doug Gottlieb

[Cazzzmo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Gottlieb

Where did he play in the CBA? Any stories?

[DakotaWiz]

No stories, but I seem to remember him with Idaho, albeit briefly..

[Chuck the Writer]

Doug Gottlieb did not play in the CBA.

He did play six games in 2001 with the IBA's Salina Rattlers.

He was also in the USBL in 2000 and 2002 with the Oklahoma Storm.

Next?

[DakotaWiz]

Oh Chuck. Always so knowledgeable! And witty - love the "Next!"

"He spent this season with the Idaho Stampede in the D-League, where a friend and former coach of mine, Brian Gates, took him under his wing." -- ESPN

"He played in the CBA for the Idaho Stampede and for the Salina (Kan.) Rattlers of the IBA, but his playing career wasn't taking off" LA Times

Here, it shows him being released by Idaho on December 14th, 2000.
CNNSI Transactions

Now, I know the season November 24th at the latest that season - and that's 3 weeks later...

While Gottlieb may not be in your system, could he still have been a member of the Idaho Stampede, Oh Great One?

[preeths]

You may both be right. He may have been on the roster, but Ken said he "... did not play in the CBA." He may never have taken the court.

[turbocamyes]

[quote=""DakotaWiz""]Now, I know the season November 24th at the latest that season - and that's 3 weeks later...[/quote]

Season started 12/15/00

Training Camp Rosters:

AMERICAN CONFERENCE

Connecticut Pride
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Derrick Battie F/C 6-10 240 Temple ‘96
Luther Clay* F/C 6-9 235 ‘00 Rhode Island
Muntrelle Dobbins F 6-8 245 Ark.-Little Rock ‘97
Wayne Huston F 6-9 230 Souther Indiana '98
Kirk King F 6-8 240 Connecticut '97
Donny Marshall F 6-7 230 '95 Connecticut
BJ McKie G 6-2 190 South Carolina ‘99
Rick Mickens* G 6-4 200 ‘00 Central Conn.
Jeff Myers G 6-0 195 Drexel ‘97
Mike Pegues* F 6-5 240 Delaware ‘00
Noel “Tick” Rogers G 6-5 220 Louisville ‘96
Jarod Stevenson F 6-7 205 Richmond ‘98
Jason Wallace F 6-7 215 ‘97 McNeese St.

Fort Wayne Fury Roster
Player Pos Ht Wt College
# 50 Lorenzo Coleman C 7-1 300 Tennessee Tech ‘97
# 11 Danny Earl G 6-4 190 Penn State ‘99
# 31 Artie Griffin G 6-4 200 Alabama ‘95
# 5 Antiony Hardin G 6-3 190 Grand Valley St. ‘99
# 42 Alvin Jefferson F 6-9 230 Auburn ‘97
# 21 Antonio Lang F 6-8 230 Duke '92
# 52 Priest Lauderdale C 7-4 325 Central State ‘94
# 24 Michael Lewis* G 6-1 185 Indiana ‘00
# 44 Kelvin Price F 6-8 235 NC-Charlotte ‘99
# 30 Donte Quinine* G/F 6-7 190 Seattle-Pacific ’00
# 40 Elmore Spencer C 7-0 300 UNLV ‘92
# 45 Jameel Watkins* F/C 6-11 255 Georgetown ‘00

Gary Steelheads
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Chad Austin G 6-2 195 Purdue '98
Ryan Blackwell* F 6-7 227 Syracuse '00
Jaraan Cornell* G 6-3 200 Purdue '00
Ed Cota* G 6-2 202 North Carolina ‘00
Kiwane Garris G 6-2 193 Illinois '97
Ed Gray G 6-3 215 California '97
Roy Hairston F 6-8 225 Purdue '97
Corey Hightower G/F 6-8 200 Indian Hills CC '00
Courtney James F/C 6-8 265 Minnesota '97
T.J. Lux* F 6-9 230 Northern Illinois '00
Charlie Miller F 6-7 210 Indiana '98
Terrence Shannon F 6-8 190 Elgin CC '99
Tevis Stukes* G 5-11 185 Baylor '00
Ray Yagelski F 6-5 215 ' Wis.-Whitewater 98

Grand Rapids Hoops
Player Pos Ht Wt College
# 50 Lamont Barnes C 6-10 240 Temple
#33 Mylo Brooks C 6-9 230 Virginia Commonwealth
# 3 Sean Colson G 6-0 175 UNC-Charlotte'98
# 5 Rob Dye* G 6-0 195 Bradley ‘00
# 31 Johnny Hemsley* G 6-5 195 Miami (FL) ‘00
# 29 Jamal Kendrick F 6-8 230 Midwestern State ‘97
# 24Antonio Smith F 6-8 235 Michigan St. '99
D'Quarius Stewart* G 6-2 190 Central Florida '00
# 32 Ted Thomas* G 6-4 202 Dillard '00
# 2 Derrick Zeigler G 6-4 190 Cleveland State ‘97

Rockford Lightning
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Anthony Blakes* G 6-2 188 Wyoming '00 12/06/76
Gerald Brown G 6-4 210 Pepperdine '98
Tim Brown* G 6-3 160 St. Joseph's '00
Deryl Cunningham F 6-7 205 Kansas St. '94
Gabe Frank* F 6-5 210 Wis.-Stevens Point '00
Ronnie Grandison F 6-6 220 New Orleans '87
Tony Smith G 6-5 215 Marquette '90
Joe Vogel F 6-10 255 Colorado State '96
Brandon Williams G/F 6-6 215 Davidson '96
Korleone Young F 6-7 218 Hargraves Mil. Acad. '98

NATIONAL CONFERENCE

Idaho Stampede Roster
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Roberto Bergersen G 6-6 210 Boise State '99
Willie Burton F 6-8 220 Minnesota '90
Yinka Dare C 7-0 285 George Washington '94
SharifFajardo F 6-8 225 Texas-El Paso '99
Marvin Gay C 6-9 237 Murray State '98
Doug Gottlieb* G 6-1 185 Oklahoma State '00
Mark Jones F 6-6 215 Central Florida ‘98
Justin Lyons* F 6-7 225 Boise State ‘00
Darren McLinton G 6-0 185 James Madison ‘96
Robert Palmer G 6-5 205 McNeese St. '97
Aubrey Reese* G 6-0 190 Murray State ‘00
Chianti Roberts F 6-6 221 Oklahoma State ‘97
Jason Stewart* G 6-5 205 Miami (OH) '00
Martin Yokum C 6-10 255 McNeese State‘94

La Crosse Bobcats
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Jon Bryant* G 6-2 195 Wisconsin '00
Jerry Carstensen* F 6-6 225 Wisconsin-GB '00
Arthur Davis G 6-5 200 St. Joseph (PA) '97
Neil Edwards* C 6-11 225 York (NY) '00
Rob Feaster F 6-6 225 Holy Cross '95
Casey Frank F 6-8 248 Northern Arizona '99
Tim Gill G 6-2 200 Oral Roberts '98
Michael Hermon G 6-3 210 Malcolm X JC '97
Andrell Hoard G 6-3 190 NE Illinois'97
Luke Maher* G 6-4 202 Viterbo (WI)'00
Frank McQueen G 6-4 185 Salem-Teikyo '99
Marlon Minifee* F 6-6 215 National Christian (TX) '00
Sam Okey F 6-7 240 Iowa '99
Trevor Winter C 7-0 280 Minnesota '97

Quad City Thunder
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Terrell Baker G 6-5 200 Florida State '99
John Coker C 7-0 255 Boise State '95
Chris Garner G 5-10156 Memphis '97
Ceedric Goodwyn* F 6-9 230 Colorado State '00
Andre Larry* F 6-9 205 Cal State Northridge’00
Jerry McCullough G 6-0 185 Pittsburgh '96
Jay Poerner C 6-10230 SMU '98
Ansu Sesay F 6-9 225 Mississippi'98
Kendrick Spruel* F 6-9 190 Louisiana Tech '00
Jamel Thomas F 6-6 219 Providence'99
Brandon Titus G 6-4 200 Long Beach State '97
Fred Warrick G 6-5 187 Coppin State '99

Sioux Falls Skyforce
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Mark Ashman* C 6-10 235 Dayton '00
C.J. Bruton G 6-2 190 Indian Hills CC ‘97
Schea Cotton* F 6-6 215 Alabama ‘00
Ben Ebong F 6-8 230 Davidson ‘99
Chico Fletcher* G 5-6 170 Arkansas State ‘00
Kris Johnson G 6-4 220 UCLA ‘98
Victor Page G 6-3 200 Georgetown ‘97
Mike Ravizee C 6-9 260 DePaul ‘94
Bryant Smith G 6-5 188 Auburn ‘99
Winfred Walton F 6-9 230 Fresno State ‘98
Albert White F 6-5 238 Missouri ‘99
Dwayne Whitfield C 6-8 240 Jackson State ‘95

Yakima Sun Kings
Player Pos Ht Wt College
Quinton Brooks F 6-7 220 Michigan St.
Jake Carlisle F 6-6 225 Alaska-Anchorage '98
Eric Coley* G 6-6 210 Tulsa '00
Carlos Daniel F 6-8 238 Washington St.'98
Rosell Ellis F 6-7 215 McNeese St. '97
David Harrison G 6-4 190 Campbellsville (KY) '99
Shaun Igo C 6-11 250 Rice '97
Malcolm Johnson G 6-4 190 Texas Christian '98
Ron Selleaze* F 6-5 225 Cal St.Bakersfield '00
Jermaine Smith G 6-2 195 UNLV '97
David Vanterpool G 6-5 200 St. Bonaventure '95
Donald Watts G 6-5 205 Washington '99
Jason Winningham F 6-9 245 SE Louisiana '96

[turbocamyes]

And opening day roster (on the 15th)

NATIONAL CONFERENCE

Idaho Stampede

Player Pos Ht Wt College Birthdate
Roberto Bergersen G 6-6 210 Boise State '99 01/06/76
Willie Burton F 6-8 220 Minnesota '90 05/26/68
Sharif Fajardo F 6-8 225 Texas-El Paso '99 06/09/76
Marvin Gay C 6-9 237 Murray State '98 03/23/74
Brian Green G 6-4 216 Nevada-Reno '96 01/17/76
Randy Livingston G 6-4 209 Louisiana State ‘96 04/02/75
Justin Lyons* F 6-7 225 Boise State ‘00 06/09/76
Darren McLinton G 6-0 185 James Madison ‘96 05/02/74
Aubrey Reese* G 6-0 190 Murray State ‘00 10/13/78
Chianti Roberts F 6-6 221 Oklahoma State ‘97 06/20/75

Head Coach Rory White, South Alabama ‘82
Assistant Coach Bryan Gates, Boise State '96

Everyone's right--I love it when that happens.

[DakotaWiz]

12/15. Wow. I'll put out that caveat that I wasn't completely sober last night, so when I went and look at the Wizards spreadsheet, I saw it was November 24th - in the IBA, not CBA.

Thanks for looking into it, and my apologies.

[stathunter04]

The Idaho Stampede (CBA) signed him on Nov. 28, 2000, prior to training camp, just to release him on Dec. 13, 2000, two days before their opening game. 15 days later, on Dec. 28, 2000, he signed with the Salina Rattlers of the (now defunct) IBA. He then played in six games (four starts) before the team placed him on the suspended list on Jan. 11, 2001. No reason was given. In February 2001 he joined Ural Great Perm of Russia and won the Russian Championship.

[TEN]

Doug was a pretty solid point guard for a pretty good Oklahoma Storm team in the USBL in 2000 with Brian Gates. He never could score, but was a good assist man. Fans in Dodge City and Kansas gave him a lot of crap because he was a horrible shooter at Oklahoma State and he was familiar because of the Big 12 ties. The Storm had Ira Newble and Reggie Slater who went on to the NBA as well as Willie Burton. They lost to Dodge City in the USBL Championship Game.

He came back to the Storm in 2002 when Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was the coach and from what I understand they didn't hit it off too well....The owner wanted to keep him because he was one of the most popular players and Kareem didn't....Kareem won...

I saw him play in the IBA with the Rattlers one time too...didn't last long...they let him go because he wanted to go to Russia.

One story I heard....He wanted to play in Israel but wasn't good enough to earn one of their two American "spots." He decided to fill out the paperwork to become an Israeli citizen....after he did it....he realized that as a citizen he was obligated to serve a military hitch...needless to say...he got out of it somehow and came home.