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As most of you know the CIFL was for sale,some of u dont, but what you dont know is that 2 weeks ago the league was for sale and a deal was in place for the change in ownership. Pending some document's that needed to be produced regarding WHO and what teams paid what and so forth. This is the only thing that is holding this up. There was a $15,000.00 deposit that was accepted by the selling party ( owners of the CIFL) and the balance of $150.000.00 due by the person buying the team upon closing. When a CERTAIN party was UNABLE to produce these papers about who PAID what and who didn't the (CIFL Ownership) sent out an E MAIL to most or all of the team owners saying the league was NOT for sale. Why would you take a DEPOSIT from a man and then say the league was not for sale. Something STINKS here, coming from CANTON maybe! So where do we go from here. Well here goes, The end of the CIFL as we know it just might be here. A few certain owners in the CIFL along with OTHERS ARE as we speak brokering a deal to join the ANOTHER LEAGUE. From the talks regarding this the current owners or at least some of them are tired of what has been a joke of a league being run the way that it has been, and you know the long list of these issues. There has been a commitment from at least 5, yes 5 teams to leave the CIFL and WANT to join the other LEAGUE. What about Wheeling and Syracuse, dont know about those but those teams are going to look at their contracts to see if there has to be a certain amount of teams in the CIFL to continue to play, and by the looks of it there wont be. Things like 1 Michigan team taking another to court over missing funds. Teams NOT showing up to play games. I dont blame BB for leaving the league. And one certain owner PAYING for what some of the other teams were supposed to and NOW the CIFL owes this EAST coast owner right AROUND 30 to 40 K from the past 2 years. Yes the same owner who gave these people a $15,000.00 deposit to buy the league, oh yea did I mention he was buying the league, or was it the CIFL owners were selling the league to avoid litigation and being sued from the money they owed. Now that the league is not selling and TODAY was the deadline for the deal. I guess there is going to be some LEGAL action taken, well, THERE IS GOING TO BE LEGAL ACTION TAKEN from this owner and a few more. The owners need to listen to the others that are leaving the league and go with them

If this is true and there are 5 teams that have contacted the IFL, my guess is it is probably Rock River, Chicago, Kalamazoo, Saginaw, and Muskegon. I doubt the Bonecrushers would join the IFL. The IFL would probably not expect them since there is going to be an af2 team in Milwaukee

Seriously, stfu about the Bonecrushers, we know where you think they stand.

Otherwise, can't say I'm the least bit surprised to hear about the situation, and honestly I AM surprised it never happened sooner.

Why do you know for a fact with some proof that they are done? They will be back

Do you think Marion might join the IFL?

Something to remember - bigger is not better. Better is better.

The IFL needs to keep this in mind. I get the feeling the CIFL won't have that problem any more.

I could see the CIFL being down to 8-9 teams if this whole CIFL for sale thing is true

[quote=""robster2001""]Something to remember - bigger is not better. Better is better.

The IFL needs to keep this in mind. I get the feeling the CIFL won't have that problem any more. [/quote]

And what makes you think the the IFL doesn't have that in mind? The IFL isn't trying to over-expand by any means. The truth is, there are only about 3 to 4 true expansion teams for 2009. The rest are teams from other leagues who are interested in defecting. And the IFL is being very selective about who they let make that jump. If they weren't then you can bet that they would have already been making announcements. It's really kind of comical reading some of these assumptions being made by people who are on the outside and have no clue what they're talking about.

[quote=""Indoorfootballguy""]I could see the CIFL being down to 8-9 teams if this whole CIFL for sale thing is true[/quote] Like what teams,,,,,the Milwaukee team? Ft Wayne, MV or Flint and Kalamazoo. Those 5 teams you can have and can play with themselves, NONE OF THEM have any money except MV and they dont seem to be interested in doing what the other teams are doing, so they are out on an ISLAND ALL by themselves. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AND I did NOT MENTION WHAT LEAGUE these guys need to join. NOT once did I say the word IFL,,,,,,BUT IT DOES MAKE sense. LMAO

[quote=""phydeaux72""]And what makes you think the the IFL doesn't have that in mind? The IFL isn't trying to over-expand by any means. The truth is, there are only about 3 to 4 true expansion teams for 2009. The rest are teams from other leagues who are interested in defecting. And the IFL is being very selective about who they let make that jump. If they weren't then you can bet that they would have already been making announcements. It's really kind of comical reading some of these assumptions being made by people who are on the outside and have no clue what they're talking about.[/quote]
You tell"em,,,,,,

[quote=""phydeaux72""]And what makes you think the the IFL doesn't have that in mind? The IFL isn't trying to over-expand by any means. The truth is, there are only about 3 to 4 true expansion teams for 2009. The rest are teams from other leagues who are interested in defecting. And the IFL is being very selective about who they let make that jump. If they weren't then you can bet that they would have already been making announcements. It's really kind of comical reading some of these assumptions being made by people who are on the outside and have no clue what they're talking about.[/quote]

If you don't want opinions from the "outside", don't post here. I've found that in most cases, people who rail about "outside" opinions tend to be offended that they're accurate. But I could be wrong.

That said... I refer you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_Football_League. Now I know Wikipedia isn't terribly reliable, but if the page is accurate, and the IFL gets every "rumored" team and adds every expansion city, it will start 2009 with over 30 teams spread from the Carolinas to Alaska.

History has shown that this is not a stable approach. The CIFL has proven that rapid expansion just adds more teams, not better organizations.

It would have been better for the long-term future of the IFL to play one season with just the teams from the two founding leagues, and then undertake expansion.

However, I understand that indoor football (as a whole) doesn't do long-term planning. So if the IFL wants to start 2009 with over 30 teams, that's fine. It's my considered opinion that they won't finish 2009 with over 30 teams.