Losing Leagues vs ProFB

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Losing Leagues vs ProFB

Post by 4th&long » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:35 pm

some of these league won't give up and have deep pockets. Take the WNBA. 20 yrs of losing money.

Its going to take some legs but ProFB is the ultimate sport. One someone invest long and smart, will happen

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Post by Sam Hill » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:01 pm

Do you grasp AT ALL the difference, in orders of magnitude, between what it costs to run a WNBA team and what it costs to start up a pro football team/league?

You don't.

The WNBA is a brand extension of the NBA, in most places. Even in places where the local team does not share resources with the local NBA team, they still benefit from the WNBA TV contract and the halo effect from being in that brand extension.

Pro football is ridiculously expensive. You always fail to grasp this. Even paying the players not much, the startup costs are insane and the ongoing costs are very, very high. Look at every league that has tried this since the AFL of the 1960s (which survived because they had their TV contracts, it was much cheaper to buy players then and professional football was under-serving the market) has lost scads of money. Even more recently, every one of the leagues you've said has a chance has gone out of existence quickly (and sometimes painfully). Why? Because even on the cheap, they lost too much money. It's expensive, and you can't get enough people to buy tickets to watch it.

Plus, without a paying TV contract and without stadium control (or sweetheart leases), it can't frigging be done. How many times are you going to parrot this bs "invest long and smart" nonsense?

You can't invest long because there's no point in it. The losses are too great and you won't see a return. "ProFB" is not the ultimate sport. The NFL is.

A startup football league can't be the NFL or even close. You can't put the Omaha Mammoths in a microwave and have people have the same emotional attachment to them that they have to their NFL team. There aren't Mammoth fans in Connecticut who sign up for the LFL (Latest Football League) package just to follow their favorite team.

We're going to be sitting here in the summer of 2022 and you're still going to be insisting that it can be done. It can't be done. It won't be done. Your latest binky, the thing in California, won't work, either. And in five years you'll be extolling the virtues of whatever other group of idiots think they can do it.
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