What's the difference between Hudson Valley and Mahoning Valley?

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What's the difference between Hudson Valley and Mahoning Valley?

Post by preeths » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:08 pm

The Mahoning Valley franchise announced it is ceasing operations Monday. Meanwhile the Hudson Valley team still appears on the FXFL schedule and website. Both look like they have the same relationship with the FXFL: team operators. So what prompted Mahoning Valley to fail already while Hudson Valley remains in the league?

Mahoning Valley had a home game scheduled for this coming weekend, so they were under the gun a bit more than HV, but the Fort have their home opener scheduled for next weekend. Is it possible we're looking at HV being on the ropes in a week? Or did the league only have enough money to keep one of the teams afloat and chose the Fort? Perhaps the MV group demanded (or were owed) payment by the FXFL, and when it wasn't forthcoming severed the relationship? Maybe Hudson Valley is giving the league more time if they're facing the same circumstances. But how long will that last if real expenses start to pile up? If Brooklyn is now footing all the bills, maybe they knew they needed more than one opponent at home this season, but then why waste any money on HV home games? Florida at HV would be especially pointless.

In short, it's difficult not to wonder if the Brawlers' failure did little more than buy the FXFL another week. The FXFL appears to be exactly where the UFL was when a pair of its owners went on TV to promise the players they would be paid: on the verge of collapse.

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Post by tops804 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:29 pm

It's a crazy notion to think this league was ever going to kickoff a second year.

Last season left nothing other than a shortened season and unpaid bills in which the league seemed to neatly ignore.

This season seemed the promise of one solid franchise (If one's definition of "solid" can be compared to "Tallest" when one midget is standing within a group of others). Two franchises which seemed to be "solid" only within the grasp of they had facilities in place. Plus an "ownership" group that only seemed to share non-cash resources and willing to turn the stadium lights on. Lastly, the "Blue chip" franchise known as the "Blacktips" which in two seasons, was unable to call anyplace home.

More frustrating is the number of players, potential season ticket holders, etc....Who just couldn't hit the google button to see how things shook out in the FXFL last season; and what has been done to remedy them.

Alas - Mahoning Valley did manage to have it's cheerleading squad in place. Perhaps a trip to Brookyn would be in order, as a Bronx Cheer on the way may sum up the 2015 FXFL season as a whole.

Another, in the cascading list of "2nd banana to the NFL wannabees". College football need not sound the alarm anytime soon.
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Post by Sam Hill » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:36 pm

If any outlets were actually covering the league, those would be interesting questions to ask.
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Post by dmbishop » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:08 pm

The difference between Mahoning and Hudson is simple.

Mahoning required teams to drive 12 hours in a bus for a game and maybe stay overnight in a hotel (and the same for Mahoning road games). That costs $$$.

With just Hudson and Brooklyn, the drive is 2 hours, no overnights, and if you keep the "Tips" at one of the locations, no significant costs for them either.

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Post by Sam Hill » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:51 pm

That makes some sense. Without a nearby travel partner, keeping the Brawlers alive made less business sense.

I still doubt they have any money to pay the other 114 or so players in the league.
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Post by 4th&long » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:48 pm

[quote=""dmbishop""]The difference between Mahoning and Hudson is simple.

Mahoning required teams to drive 12 hours in a bus for a game and maybe stay overnight in a hotel (and the same for Mahoning road games). That costs $$$.

With just Hudson and Brooklyn, the drive is 2 hours, no overnights, and if you keep the "Tips" at one of the locations, no significant costs for them either.

Dave[/quote]

I think that's part of it for sure. That and MV had a host game this weekend and they nor HV are ready.

Also logistically they were able to keep the other 2s home dates

But why not keep 3 'homed teams' and get rid of the black tips? Same reasons

Though if this were decided a month ago before the schedule issues I think it would have been the blacktips out.

Burning a new partner like that is hard to recover from, new potential partners will be very suspect. They should have made the call a month ago. Had a 4 game 'season' with one championship for 2/3 to have 5 vs 4 game dev platform. I actually never understood spending money on players in a non city.

No one would care if the traveling blacktips were sacrificed. That's how poorly this was handled. Just plain stupid by Woods.

Woods does not like to acknowledge his mistakes publicly nor is he proactive on them but rather reactive. Woods is trying to bag the elephant too much, he thinks of the teams status as secondary to that goal. When it's really the other way around.

The 3 teams only may not have been avoided but MV did not need to go.
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Post by tops804 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:23 am

The move of Boston was done in Mid-July along with the fold of Omaha.

If I recall correctly, a big part of the "Welcome to the Northeast" hype was lowering the travel costs. Although arguably most could see through to the "What's good for Brooklyn is good for the FXFL" hype. Where another NYPL stadium seemed to make...perfect sense.

Hence we have a Josh Freeman landing in Brooklyn, A "travel team", and the Hudson Valley Fort who may wish they were hiding in a fort by the time this all plays out.
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