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Post by VinnyTheViper » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:10 am

[quote=""sportznut""]and the ball hitting the wall, the SIFL allowed balls being caught off the wall. the wall was live. made it interesting![/quote]

You may have thought that both the Intense and the SIFL were playing arena style rules prior to 2011, but they were not. The SIFL only adopted rules that were close to arena rules in 2011, the important rule changes revolves around the linebacker postioning and movement after the snap, thus opening up all of the throwing lanes. And if you do not believe me, then you will have to explain to me why almost every SIFL league passing record was absolutely shattered in 2011, passing attempts, TDs in a season, passing yardage in a season, and the list goes on and on. And it was not just a single QB breaking the old SIFL marks, it was group of QBs surging beyond the old numbers. Trends do not simply happen by accident.

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Post by jerry101jlh » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:54 am

[quote=""VinnyTheViper""]The PIFL cannot use the word "Arena" in their name, the word is protected by trademark via Gridiron, Inc. LLC, the parent company that owns the rights to the AFL and af2 names, if any other league attempts to use the "arena" name, they get sued, it is called trademark infringement.[/quote]


OK, you win, PIFL is an arena league knock off or wannabe, but in reality just another version of indoor football. Get back to me when the nets go up.

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Post by preeths » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:07 pm

[quote=""VinnyTheViper""]The PIFL cannot use the word "Arena" in their name, the word is protected by trademark via Gridiron, Inc. LLC, the parent company that owns the rights to the AFL and af2 names, if any other league attempts to use the "arena" name, they get sued, it is called trademark infringement.[/quote]
Are you certain this is still the case? I thought I remembered that "Arena Football" had been deemed a generic term, much like Kleenex.

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Post by jerry101jlh » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:35 pm

Been long the mindset of arena higher ups that the World revolves around them and they have the rights to all and nobody else has any rights. Appears this attitude still exists today even though the the AFL is now a failed model on its second go round. And no, not referring to Vinnie in saying this although dear Vinny does like to cross that extremest we own it all line occasionally. lol

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Post by daytonadan » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:32 pm

Ah yes, the age old practice of debating the deck chair arrangement when the frakkin ship has long hit the iceberg...
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Post by Bouncer_Texxx » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:33 pm

[quote=""preeths""]Are you certain this is still the case? I thought I remembered that "Arena Football" had been deemed a generic term, much like Kleenex.[/quote]

in reality this has (pretty much) always been the case.. the ruling against patenting, or trademarking the term "arena football" is dated 1996..

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/so ... 249309.pdf
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Post by preeths » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:31 pm

[quote=""Bouncer_Texxx""]in reality this has (pretty much) always been the case.. the ruling against patenting, or trademarking the term "arena football" is dated 1996..

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/so ... 249309.pdf[/quote]
I knew the board would come through with the link. Thank you.

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Post by jerry101jlh » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:14 pm

Rehashing the age old "ankle biter" term and how it might apply to today. Wonder if the AFL leadership considers the PIFL and LSFL as ankle biters? After all these leagues are encroaching on the purity of the sport, cutting into AFL territory so to speak.

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Post by sportznut » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:47 am

[quote=""VinnyTheViper""]You may have thought that both the Intense and the SIFL were playing arena style rules prior to 2011, but they were not. The SIFL only adopted rules that were close to arena rules in 2011, the important rule changes revolves around the linebacker postioning and movement after the snap, thus opening up all of the throwing lanes. And if you do not believe me, then you will have to explain to me why almost every SIFL league passing record was absolutely shattered in 2011, passing attempts, TDs in a season, passing yardage in a season, and the list goes on and on. And it was not just a single QB breaking the old SIFL marks, it was group of QBs surging beyond the old numbers. Trends do not simply happen by accident.[/quote]

Vinny, The Intense League had Arena style rules... The SIFL when we started it was far different then most, we seriously tried to make it more like Outdoor football, indoors. Allowing a coach to coach, if he chose 1 LB, then 1 LB it was, or he could run a play with 2 LB... it mixed it up and made the offensive coach... COACH not just call plays knowing that a certain route would be there every play... Thats madden football right? On Offense, a team wanted to be more of a running offense ( the Austin Turfcats) hell we had red zone offense rules to help on scoring, adding an offensive lineman within the 10 yard line. with all of its troubles, 2009 season was alot of fun to watch! the 2010 season we brought in the columbus lions, greenville force and the albany panthers in and they pushed for rule changes.. More to what they were used to playing. it was offensive friendly! Hell, greenville didnt play half of its games, but their WR was in the top 5 wr in rec yards for the season. Then after i left, they changed it to the Mess the played last year when all the passing marks went up in smoke... exciting? bleh.... I would rather see a RB have a 100 yard game indoors, or bust a few 20+ yard runs in a game, then see a QB throw for 300+ in a game... personal preference i know.
Changes.... they are a coming......

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