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Post by BlastFan » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:30 am

And the XSL - which was announced BEFORE the NISL was announced, by the way - was in the process of being formed, too.
One word: Clueless!

An article on baltimoreblast.com, published on September 9, 2008 talks about the newly created league and the teams that would be involved in it. Keep in mind this was an informative article, the league was established some time before then.

(http://www.baltimoreblast.com/news/misl ... icle_id=11)

How the hell does that put the XSL founded before them, when their first press conference to announce the friggin league and its name was on September 16, 2008? 'Splain that please!

(http://www.jsonline.com/sports/soccer/32517144.html)

Furthermore, wth does the starting up of the NISL and the XSL have to do with the price of beans? As I recall, the last team to shutdown for a period of time that still is playing today shutdown after the XSL did. So whats the formation of those leagues have to do with anything at all?
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Post by tops804 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:07 am

[quote=""BlastFan""]One word: Clueless!

An article on baltimoreblast.com, published on September 9, 2008 talks about the newly created league and the teams that would be involved in it. Keep in mind this was an informative article, the league was established some time before then.

(http://www.baltimoreblast.com/news/misl ... icle_id=11)

How the hell does that put the XSL founded before them, when their first press conference to announce the friggin league and its name was on September 16, 2008? 'Splain that please!

(http://www.jsonline.com/sports/soccer/32517144.html)

Furthermore, wth does the starting up of the NISL and the XSL have to do with the price of beans? As I recall, the last team to shutdown for a period of time that still is playing today shutdown after the XSL did. So whats the formation of those leagues have to do with anything at all?[/quote]

Awwwwwwww......He swore!!!!! Wait'll your mother finds out!!! :mad:

The XSL was formed, in fact; in August of 2008. Doofus.

http://www.wisconsinsoccercentral.com/set-pieces/professional/726-milwaukee-wave-to-join-xsl
Milwaukee Wave to join XSL
By Eric Anderson
Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:25 PM

The Milwaukee Wave will be a charter member of the Xtreme Soccer League, which apparently will be one of two rival indoor soccer leagues starting this fall.

The Wave previously played in the Major Indoor Soccer League, which disbanded in June. At least three other former MISL teams also will be in the XSL: the Chicago Storm, Detroit Ignition and New Jersey Ironmen. More details about the league is scheduled to be unveiled Sept. 16.

In addition to the MISL, Milwaukee also has played in the American Indoor Soccer Association and the National Professional Soccer League during its 24-year history. Media reports indicate that several of the other former MISL teams will be part of another new league.
//www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3710544
Official unveiling of Xtreme Soccer League takes place September 16

HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill. - A new interactive sports lifestyle debuts Sept. 16, 2008, with the formal introduction of the Xtreme Soccer League and the Xtreme Soccer Xperience. More than an indoor soccer league, the XSX is an energetic and innovative 12-month experience built around skilled soccer professionals, entertainment and fan participation - both live and online.
"Soccer played a major role in my life, and those of my partners," said Viktor Jakovljevic, co-owner of the Chicago Storm. "To be a part of this lifestyle brand is a dream come true."

"It took us only a short time to fully appreciate the impact this lifestyle brand has, and we are elated to be at the forefront of the Xtreme Soccer platform," said Jeffrey Vanderbeek, co-owner with Michael Gilfillan of the New Jersey Ironmen.

"We are thrilled to enter our Silver Anniversary season in the new and exciting format of Xtreme Soccer," said Charles Krause, owner of the Milwaukee Wave.

"Being part of a group that is committed to long-term success and understands the value of such an amazing product is truly special," said John Hantz, owner of the Detroit Ignition.

All information pertaining to the XSL and XSX will be available on Sept. 16, including markets, schedules and contact information. More details on that event will follow.

The Chicago Storm organization enters 2008-2009 for its fifth season of professional indoor soccer. Storm offices are located at 5333 Prairie Stone Pkwy., in Hoffman Estates. For more information on all aspects of Storm soccer, including season tickets, group outings, birthday parties and more, call (866) STORM-81, or visit http://www.ChicagoStorm.net.
Of course, I don't know what this has to do with anything. Both franchises were established and active for that summer, knowing they would have to find or form a new league.
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Post by preeths » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:23 pm

It is not uncommon at this level of sports for franchises to "shut down" for a period in the offseason. We get notes from teams quite often saying their offices will be closed between certain days. Doesn't mean anything.

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Post by BlastFan » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:37 pm

Yeah, but its kind of different when your team is without an owner and league to play in for the next season... Basically all Lindenburg bought was their name and reputation...

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Post by preeths » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:56 pm

No, he didn't. He bought the entire works including physical assets from Charles Krause. The Wave was not a new franchise, it was the same one that had been operating for years before Lindenburg took over.

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Post by JeffCapo » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:04 am

[quote=""robster2001""]It's Baltimore. What else do they have to cheer for?

*Yes, I know Indianapolis (actually, Jim Irsay) stole Baltimore's team. But two wrongs still make a wrong.[/quote]

just a minor correction - it was ROBERT Irsay who snuck out in the middle of the night with the Colts in 1984. Jim is his son and current owner of the team.
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Post by Soccer-Man » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:45 am

[QUOTE=BlastFan;153901]I hate compromising my ideas but for the sake of it I will. I'll go along with you and say the Blast were founded in 1992 as the Spirit. In the Wave's statement they claim to be the oldest continually operated franchise. That statement is wrong.

For one week, the Wave were shut down. For quite some time before that, they weren't even part of a league. (Were they planning on playing themselves the next season?) For a week, if you called the Wave office you wouldn't get an answer. Why? They had abandoned their offices. Players were even allowed to sign with other teams. 'Nuff said.

To wrap this up: The 2011 Blast founded in 1992 have been continually operated longer than the 2011 Wave who regained operations in 2008.[/QUOTE]

Again, I admire the good fight in you to tell the masses the truth, but you will never convince them.

On one hand, they refuse to accept the 31 years of continuous indoor play to *Milwaukee's 27. Even if you take away all the different leagues and the shutdowns and folded this and folded that, BALTIMORE still trumps Milwaukee by 4 years. That's just simple math.

Now if on the other hand, they want to bring in the whole 1992 Spirit in the NPSL, it's only fair to bring in the 2009 SHUTDOWN. And even in that scenario, BALTIMORE trumps *Milwaukee 19 years to 2. The team was out of business. Had no owner. No money. No paid staff. No central office. Even Jim Lindenberg said the team was out of business. So if they're trying to say that the BLAST folded in 1992, than the *Wave folded in 2009. They can't have it both ways, hence they appear to be hypocritcal.


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Post by Soccer-Man » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:51 am

[quote=""preeths""]No, he didn't. He bought the entire works including physical assets from Charles Krause. The Wave was not a new franchise, it was the same one that had been operating for years before Lindenburg took over.[/quote]

Well, Ed Hale "bought the entire works including physical assets "from the Spirit. He merged all the BALTIMORE indoor soccer history as well.

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Post by Round Lake Illini » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:35 am

Geez, I don't know what argument is more tiresome, which team is the oldest or which team "won" the 2011 MISL title! :D

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Post by preeths » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:55 pm

[quote=""Soccer-Man""]Well, Ed Hale "bought the entire works including physical assets "from the Spirit. He merged all the BALTIMORE indoor soccer history as well.

The BLAST NATION is strong!!!![/quote]
The current Blast and the Spirit is the same organization, I believe. I don't think anyone is arguing that. The original Blast died along with the MISL.

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