UFL Season in jeopardy?
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[quote=""Sam Hill""]Despite all evidence to the contrary. So you think there are five to seven people out there not only with the ability to own and operate individual UFL teams, but with the desire to do so? You assume they haven't been looking for additional investors for three years now? You think the only thing holding these transactions back, the only thing keeping them from happening "immediately" is an unwillingness on the part of the UFL? And - here's the big one - you think they'd immediately "survive and prosper?"
Even if they got five completely new, rich owners, they'd still have a product with a limited appeal to a limited amount of people and without a television contract that actually pays them money (something they're unlikely to get, given the amount of football available on TV), they're a money-losing proposition. A big, gaping, money hole. It's unfathomable to me that you could believe there's a simple fix to this.[/quote]
Your right and also wrong in the same breath. Yes they have been looking and found qualified owners but they wanted the owners under their terms and control.Pay $30 million and rget call the shots at the head office. Guys with serious intent and money want to own and operate their own team. Your also right that their is no guarantee on success. But make no mistake there are guys with serious money wanting to do football under the right conditions.
Even if they got five completely new, rich owners, they'd still have a product with a limited appeal to a limited amount of people and without a television contract that actually pays them money (something they're unlikely to get, given the amount of football available on TV), they're a money-losing proposition. A big, gaping, money hole. It's unfathomable to me that you could believe there's a simple fix to this.[/quote]
Your right and also wrong in the same breath. Yes they have been looking and found qualified owners but they wanted the owners under their terms and control.Pay $30 million and rget call the shots at the head office. Guys with serious intent and money want to own and operate their own team. Your also right that their is no guarantee on success. But make no mistake there are guys with serious money wanting to do football under the right conditions.
Then let them start their own frigging league.
There's one level of money you need to maybe make an alternate non-competing league do better than the UFL has been doing. But if there are guys who think they can compete with the NFL? They don't have that kind of money. If they do, they didn't get it by being complete idiots.
We will not see an actual competitor league to the NFL get off the drawing board and onto the field in our lifetime. I'm certain of that.
There's one level of money you need to maybe make an alternate non-competing league do better than the UFL has been doing. But if there are guys who think they can compete with the NFL? They don't have that kind of money. If they do, they didn't get it by being complete idiots.
We will not see an actual competitor league to the NFL get off the drawing board and onto the field in our lifetime. I'm certain of that.
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The UFL can be compared to a poker player who shoves all-in a bit recklessly because he misread his opponent. The poker player is surprised when the opponent turns up pocket Aces, and the UFL is surprised when the NFL failed to shut down the 2011 season.
The most noble thing for Hugyhue to do is to call a press conference and tell the media the truth - they spent two years setting up a huge gamble on the possibility that the NFL would wipe out this season. Since it didn't happen, the UFL should do the right thing, release its players, and fold now so that players have a chance to latch on with NFL training camps. If they wait until mid-August, it'll be too late for most UFL players to find work in the NFL (if any of them could, anyway).
Sam's right, of course. This isn't 1960, where there were 8 major-league cities waiting for football. This isn't 1984, where ABC and ESPN were willing to gamble on spring football -- and that league folded as soon as serial bankrupter Donald Trump pushed the league into the fall.
There aren't enough unserved major-league cities, or enough available star players, to start a new fall professional league. Period. Full stop.
The AFL currently is trying to hang in as the spring niche league for rabid football fans. I'm not sure there's room there for another league.
So, basically, football is what it is. Dreamers with large sums of money are invited to write me a check instead of burning off their money trying to compete with the NFL.
The most noble thing for Hugyhue to do is to call a press conference and tell the media the truth - they spent two years setting up a huge gamble on the possibility that the NFL would wipe out this season. Since it didn't happen, the UFL should do the right thing, release its players, and fold now so that players have a chance to latch on with NFL training camps. If they wait until mid-August, it'll be too late for most UFL players to find work in the NFL (if any of them could, anyway).
Sam's right, of course. This isn't 1960, where there were 8 major-league cities waiting for football. This isn't 1984, where ABC and ESPN were willing to gamble on spring football -- and that league folded as soon as serial bankrupter Donald Trump pushed the league into the fall.
There aren't enough unserved major-league cities, or enough available star players, to start a new fall professional league. Period. Full stop.
The AFL currently is trying to hang in as the spring niche league for rabid football fans. I'm not sure there's room there for another league.
So, basically, football is what it is. Dreamers with large sums of money are invited to write me a check instead of burning off their money trying to compete with the NFL.
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If it is not the NFL, NBA or MLB then it is minor league. Why do these owners think they can reap millions every game, when they can not. They rip off city's, players and most of all the fans. Get out of the huge stadiums and quit selling tickets for $25. Make the family plan a reality. The concessions are a joke unto themselves. A soda (small) $3.50 ARE YOU KiDDING ME? Bad economic times and money hungry owners are ripping off the one thing that can make them money...the fans. All I can say is for these owners is to quit it...stop....bring the game, yes- but quit trying to be something you are not. You just might make some money! Not Millions...but respectable..
Football is expensive; it's very risky to start a new league, and there are no guarantees. As long as a league provides what it says it will provide and meets its obligations, I don't see why anyone should fault them for the attempt. Not sure you can slam the UFL owners after they lost $100 million in two years. Others have profited; the league owners have not.
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[quote=""Tommy T""]If it is not the NFL, NBA or MLB then it is minor league. Why do these owners think they can reap millions every game, when they can not. They rip off city's, players and most of all the fans. Get out of the huge stadiums and quit selling tickets for $25. Make the family plan a reality. The concessions are a joke unto themselves. A soda (small) $3.50 ARE YOU KiDDING ME? Bad economic times and money hungry owners are ripping off the one thing that can make them money...the fans. All I can say is for these owners is to quit it...stop....bring the game, yes- but quit trying to be something you are not. You just might make some money! Not Millions...but respectable..[/quote]
In many instances, I don't think owners themselves set consession prices, dude.
In many instances, I don't think owners themselves set consession prices, dude.
[quote=""Tommy T""]If it is not the NFL, NBA or MLB then it is minor league. Why do these owners think they can reap millions every game, when they can not. They rip off city's, players and most of all the fans. Get out of the huge stadiums and quit selling tickets for $25. Make the family plan a reality. The concessions are a joke unto themselves. A soda (small) $3.50 ARE YOU KiDDING ME? Bad economic times and money hungry owners are ripping off the one thing that can make them money...the fans. All I can say is for these owners is to quit it...stop....bring the game, yes- but quit trying to be something you are not. You just might make some money! Not Millions...but respectable..[/quote]
Wow. Simma down nah, Sparky.
You know how you save that money? Don't go. Don't buy it. There. Sorted.
Wow. Simma down nah, Sparky.
You know how you save that money? Don't go. Don't buy it. There. Sorted.
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