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Old 09-12-2007, 12:02 AM
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Carolyn Shiver is still trying to drum up investors to revive the 16 AMI-owned expansion teams from last season:

http://www.gobignetwork.com/profiles...yn-Shiver.aspx

Warning: facts, history and common sense are in short supply in this plan.

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We are looking for an investor. We are the National Indoor Football League. We have one ownership group looking to bring in a partner for their 16 teams. They have a plan to make the investor about $27,000,000 profit in 12 months. The company AMI management owns 16 teams and would take a 40% partner for $5 million and make that investor $32,000,000 in 12 to 24 months in 3 different ways. The investor can choose which ever cash out method they are interested in. Here is a summary of the plan to net the 40% partner a huge return on their investment. Please review it and get back with me at 888-422-9682 to discuss this deal. AMI Management We value AMI Management, inc. $80,000,000 which consist of Each NIFL member team valued $5,000,000. At (16T) = $80,000,...
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:17 AM
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Are people really that stupid in real life to fall for her scams? Does anyone have any sense to call the feds on her?
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:38 AM
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Are people really that stupid in real life to fall for her scams? Does anyone have any sense to call the feds on her?

Watch, someone will fall for it...........
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:22 AM
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Is Cleveland "George Washington of Indoor Football" Gary still involved in this scam?
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:52 AM
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Are people really that stupid in real life to fall for her scams? Does anyone have any sense to call the feds on her?
The ABA can still find team owners... I have no doubt she'll find a venture capitalist with more money than brains to take the bait.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:24 AM
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I am hopeful that a person (or group) with $5,000,000 to invest will be smart enough to do the minimal research required to find out this is not a good investment.

For face value, a $27,000,000 profit on a $5,000,000 investment is too good to be true. That alone should scare off the vast majority of people who may be interested.

The fact that they are valuing the teams at $5,000,000 each seems to be the basis for the scam. Invest $5,000,000 now for 40% ownership of 16 teams and when we sell these teams next year, at $5,000,000 each, a big profit is to be had by all.

But, what if the teams don't sell, but fold instead (like every one did last year)?

IndoorExpert is right. Someone will fall for this anyway...
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:24 AM
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The world does have its share of trust fund babies.

Now I wonder if Ms. Shiver uses this gig to fund a drug habit.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:26 AM
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Oh, one more thing: I am sure that part of the deal is for this new investor to become the "face of the NIFL" to get CG and CS off the hot seat in order to scam people into thinking "things are going to get better."
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:00 AM
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Is Cleveland "George Washington of Indoor Football" Gary still involved in this scam?
According to this document (//www.oursportscentral.com/pdf/ppo_nifl.pdf) we found online earlier this year, Mr. Gary, Ms. Shiver, Roy Reap of Beaumont and Beverly Gary sit on AMI's board of directors.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:19 PM
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Is Cleveland "George Washington of Indoor Football" Gary still involved in this scam?
George Washington or George Washington Carver? One was a president, couldn't tell a lie and crossed the Delaware. The other worked with peanuts. No offense to the real George Washington Carver, who was a brilliant man. But the NIFL management seems to work with peanuts without much brilliance.

$5,000,000?????????? WT&*^%#$

What ever it is they're smoking, I'd love some too. The 2008 NIFL season promises to be the most comic/tragic enterprise in all of sports history.
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