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View Poll Results: Will the AIFA play in 2011?
Yes 13 41.94%
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:14 AM
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Just a hunch, but if the former owners of the Marines were stealing money, then they weren't following the AIFA rules and had extra cash to pay guys under the table. My guess is that this new team will not have the same endless cash to pay this former talent and this new Mariners team may not be a tough as the former.

My opinion

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Old 09-04-2010, 12:26 AM
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Default Will the AIFA play in 2011?

A better question may be "Would anyone care if the AIFA didn't play in 2011?"

The IFL seems willing to absorb the stronger franchises and wise enough to
refuse the weaker ones. AFL isn't going to touch them, and maybe the
CIFL or SIFL could make one or two of them work.

However, I think the AIFA burned its last bridge with the events of the past
week. Granted we've seen "expansion" in crumbling leagues before, it would
be difficult to justify a positive reason any new ownership group would want
to test the waters.
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Old 09-04-2010, 06:14 AM
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Granted we've seen "expansion" in crumbling leagues before, it would be difficult to justify a positive reason any new ownership group would want to test the waters.
But they will find ownership groups.

Not necessarily good ones, but there are people who will be talked into the AIFA... after all, the NIFL still found owners up until the end... and do I have to mention this site's favorite ongoing trainwreck?

Don't underestimate the gullibility of potential team owners.
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Old 09-04-2010, 06:41 AM
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I will make the case that the return of the Cats doesn't necessarily mean the death of the wolves.

A lot of people were expecting the 2010 return of the AFL Chicago Rush to adversely impact the IFL's Chicago Slaughter. Instead ... The Slaughter took an undefeated season in the CIFL and combined it with a high profile move to the IFL. Then they out hustled the Rush in the area of promotions and special events and they saw a significant rise in ticket sales while the new incarnation of the Rush wound up seeing a drop in attendance and lost their long time "fan favorite" coach after only 1 season in the new AFL.

It's a new ball game out there. With the AFL sitting dormant for a year ... With the af2 dissolving ... With all the adverse publicity involved in player salaries being sliced and so on ... Having a franchise in the NEW AFL doesn't automatically make an owner the biggest kid on the Inside Football block.

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i guess the Wolves are done with the return of the SaberCats
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Old 09-04-2010, 08:49 AM
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Of course a couple big differences include the AFL's San Jose team having oodles of cash, and the San Jose Wolves not drawing well already. The Wolves are looking elsewhere, but it remains to be seen whether they'll find a solution.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:35 PM
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The Slaughter took an undefeated season in the CIFL and combined it with a high profile move to the IFL. Then they out hustled the Rush in the area of promotions and special events and they saw a significant rise in ticket sales.
The problem is that you are describing a one-time situation. The Slaughter could only flee a small-time league with an undefeated record once in its history. The boost in attendance is mostly the result of the very first game of the 2010 season with a reported 7000+. They only broke 5000 once the rest of the season. If you take out that first game, they only averaged about 4600 a game, as opposed to 4300 during their entire last season in the CIFL.

So do you think all AFL owners will be too lazy to promote their teams for the rest of time? The Wolves aren't taking any chances and are already in talks with Stockton's arena.
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:14 PM
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I will make the case that the return of the Cats doesn't necessarily mean the death of the wolves.

A lot of people were expecting the 2010 return of the AFL Chicago Rush to adversely impact the IFL's Chicago Slaughter. Instead ... The Slaughter took an undefeated season in the CIFL and combined it with a high profile move to the IFL. Then they out hustled the Rush in the area of promotions and special events and they saw a significant rise in ticket sales while the new incarnation of the Rush wound up seeing a drop in attendance and lost their long time "fan favorite" coach after only 1 season in the new AFL.

It's a new ball game out there. With the AFL sitting dormant for a year ... With the af2 dissolving ... With all the adverse publicity involved in player salaries being sliced and so on ... Having a franchise in the NEW AFL doesn't automatically make an owner the biggest kid on the Inside Football block.
And no press releases or any other news whatsoever since the last game of the season...If I don't see something by the end of the month, I'm putting them under my "death watch".
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:35 PM
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The AIFA will be back.

It'd be miraculous (and idiotic) if the West proceeded to play in 2011, but I predict M&M to be able to glue and tape at least 6 teams (most league owned) in the East and have them play a full season. They like fielding travel-only teams when faced with problems, well...this is definitely a problematic situation and I expect them to do so.
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:51 PM
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I'll agree with you on that one point.

But they did make the playoffs their first year in this league. They won their first playoff game. They're getting very good press from the local newspapers. And at least 5 of their losses were squeakers, 5 points or less in the last few seconds of the game.

So they've had the kind of year that causes fans to want to give them another chance next year. Now they do have to turn around and give the fans at least an 8 and 6 season. But I think they have the potential to do that or better.

And by comparison ... The Rush have already had their "We're Back And Better Than Ever" year and they wound up losing their star coach in the process.

So I think the Slaughter are on better footing than the Rush going into the 2011 season.

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The problem is that you are describing a one-time situation. The Slaughter could only flee a small-time league with an undefeated record once in its history. The boost in attendance is mostly the result of the very first game of the 2010 season with a reported 7000+. They only broke 5000 once the rest of the season. If you take out that first game, they only averaged about 4600 a game, as opposed to 4300 during their entire last season in the CIFL.
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:56 PM
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[QUOTE=super390;142483]Given the relative balance of the IFL, it was possible that the Mariners were better than any single team in the stronger league.[QUOTE]

Look, I seen the Mariners play. There were good but reality is they would have NEVER been undefeated in the IFL. They may not have even made the playoffs. I saw teams play from both the IFL and the AIFA. The Mariners in my opinion would have had trouble beating the Maryland Maniacs.
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