Possible Cavs Team in Youngstown, Ohio

[Ken, Steelheads fan]

This is what happens when I am a day (year?) late and a dollar short. The minor leagues have a good 2010 and forget to tell me.
Economical minor leagues are packing in the fans in 2010:
Attendance figures in baseball are bouncing back after a dip in 2009.

I wonder if the D-League experienced a similar bounce back too.

http://www.howesportsdata.com/howesp...l/info0091.txt

...well, maybe it's better to stick to baseball and hockey. Finding yearly NBADL attendance figures is like trying to find a unicorn.

[bectond]

The Rio Grand Valley Vipers play in one of the poorest areas in the nation; and yet they are one of the most successful franchises in the DL. The bottom 20% of the population generally do not buy season tickets in any market; therefore the 14% unemployment rate really does not apply here. The question should be(what entertainment options do the top 40% of the population have), if their options are limited than the franchise can succeed.

[wasteland]

Originally Posted by Ken, Steelheads fan

I hope the bump had much to do with the parent team, Chicago Blackhawks being 2010 Stanley Cup champions. Rockford has been an established hockey town for years now...but what of Rockford's other minor league teams? What of Rockford's efforts to bring a D-League team to town during these times of tight credit?

I doubt it from the 06-07 season to the 10-11 season attendance increased by over 30,00 fans. Its just been a steady yearly increase. You provided affordable high quality entertainment, they will come.

Lets see the Riverhawks now have a new, much more financial stable owner that moved the team to a much more stable league. Double win there. The college wood bat team continues to put on great games downtown.

Oh and speaking of the wood bat team, it was it's principal owner Joe Stefani that told media outlets he was interested into looking into brining a D-league team to town ( i can only assume the interest would begin and end with Mr. Lotto Craig Drecktrah who is part of the Forestors ownership group on top of his own Chicago Express). There was no push, serious or otherwise by the city or area that I am aware of. So yeah, that really has nothing to do with the current job/credit or whatever issue you're throwing in there.

[DFWCC]

Try these D League Att numbers

6/10/2009
08/09 ave from D league Ave Attend

1 Ft Wayne Mad Ants 4008 96199
2 Sioux Falls Skyforce 3658 84911
3 Iowa Energy 3609 81838
4 RG-Valley Vipers 3551 75077
5 Reno Bighorns 3269 65529
6 Utah Flash 3219 77258
7 Idaho Stampede 2791 61294
8 Erie Bayhawks 2737 65675
9 Dakota Wizzards 2471 59315
10 Tulsa 66ers 2445 55314
11 Albuquerque Thunderbirds 2251 54014
12 Austin Toros 2027 46447
13 Bakersfield Jam 1866 43444
14 Anaheim Arsenal 1837 39145
15 Colorado 14ers 1050 26497
16 Los Angeles Defenders 0 0
2427
Green = new
Red = gone

09/10 ave from D league Ave Attend

1 Utah Flash 4940 118563
2 RG-Valley Vipers 4481 108632
3 Iowa Energy 4014 96342
4 Ft Wayne Mad Ants 3318 79641
5 Sioux Falls Skyforce 3112 74679
6 Maine Red Claws 3047 76127
7 Erie Bayhawks 2996 71901
8 Dakota Wizzards 2839 68131
9 Tulsa 66 ers 2658 63797
10 Springfield Armor 2595 62270
11 Idaho Stampede 2535 60835
12 Reno Bighorns 2171 52103
13 Albuquerque Thunderbirds 2101 50421
14 Austin Toros 1815 41359
15 Bakersfield Jam 491 11797
16 Los Angeles Defenders 213 5100
2591


10/11 ave from D league Ave H/g Attend Include play off games
1 Iowa Energy 4871 29 141221
2 RG-Valley Vipers 4791 28 134151
3 Utah Flash 4422 25 110554
4 Erie Bayhawks 3367 25 84174
5 Texas Legends 3336 25 83411
6 Sioux Falls Skyforce 3053 24 73263
7 Maine Red Claws 3045 24 73080
8 Ft Wayne Mad Ants 2921 24 70103
9 Austin Toros 2756 24 66145
10 Springfield Armor 2599 24 62377
11 Tulsa 66 ers 2551 26 66332
12 Dakota Wizzards 2535 24 60845
13 Idaho Stampede 2496 24 59898
14 Reno Bighorns 2141 27 57835
15 Albuquerque Thunderbirds 1959 24 47020
16 Bakersfield Jam 500 25 12500


Note Bakersfield is limited to 500 by design

[DFWCC]

With ABQ near the bottom the last 3yrs they look like a shoe-in
for the move to Ygtwn.

[bectond]

Originally Posted by DFWCC

With ABQ near the bottom the last 3yrs they look like a shoe-in
for the move to Ygtwn.

Maybe not, Utah is sitting out this upcoming season and is up for sale. There seems to be some friction between Utah's NBA and D-League ownership groups because the Jazz do not want to enter into a hybrid partnership.

[DFWCC]

The Cavs wanted to buy the Erie Bayhawks of whom they had a
working agreement.
The Erie ownership did not want to sell. The cavs may have threatened to pull the agreement.
Erie then signed a hybrid deal with the NY Knicks. That leaves the Cavs shopping around, hence Youngstown.

[skippy]

Here is your answer as to what team it is:

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/sports/nm_sp...certain?ref=nf

They gave up their dates...

Gag order on the owner for ten days.

I'm hearing that he will sign the franchise over on July 1st to Youngstown.

[toad455]

so Utah sits out, LA returns and New Mexico moves to Youngstown, Ohio.

This should make the conferences even with 8 teams each.

EAST: Dakota, Erie, Fort Wayne, Iowa, Maine, Sioux Falls, Springfield, Youngstown.
WEST: Austin, Bakersfield, Idaho, Los Angeles, Reno, Rio Grande, Texas, Tulsa.

Or divide into 4 divisions??

NORTHEAST: Maine, Springfield, Erie, Youngstown.
CENTRAL: Fort Wayne, Dakota, Sioux Falls, Iowa.
MIDWEST: Tulsa, Texas, Rio Grande, Austin.
PACIFIC: Bakersfield, Idaho, Los Angeles, Reno.

[DFWCC]

Going to enjoy the 96 mile ride from Erie to Youngstown.