The Official PBL Draft Thread

[DazedAndAmused]

Originally Posted by PikevilleOT

nope. no nerve was hit and I have no "league wars" mentality at all...as I have friends in multiple leagues..yes, even the ABA....(blush)...

My need to engage is simply the result of another poster's (yes, we know who I was replying to) insistance for self-promotion by revealing "insider" information with some predicitons thrown in for shock value. My banter back and forth is not that different than verbal jabs tossed back and forth between Ken and yourself. I just chose not to comment on them.

Feel free to review my postings,as you probably already have, and I have always been a proponent for all leagues (not for papa joe, but yes for the aba). I just found it infuriating that the person that I responded to posted freely with negative diatribe about the ABA/CBA yet withheld "insider" information I know he had about some teams in the PBL with the same issues he criticized the other leagues for. I did rethink my replies and have chosen to avoid engaging in ways that seem to convey a turf war or league war mentality.

I guess we all get a little off-sides or lost along the way at times.

...like you said, I'm the hall monitor.

As far as any comparison to any banter I have had with others, the difference is that I try to call out those with obvious personal agendas in their attacks (it's pretty easy to pick those out), but I don't respond back with the "why your league stinks worse" MO. Why? Because there is enough stink to go around, and this business may die without more cooperation.

I don't think this is a fans' board per se so for that reason I actually do believe OSC has some influence on the business side. There are mostly coaches, GMs, staff, and owners that post here. I haven't found another sponsor (like me) yet, but I think there may be one or two of those lurking as well. Because of that, I think it's worth trying to re-set the tone here, purging the knuckleheads.

Personally, I may not continue to support minor league basketball if things don't change. I am seeing too many mistakes being made, at a time when there are opportunities to exploit (albeit not as many as there used to be.)

[Ken, Steelheads fan]

Originally Posted by PikevilleOT

nope. no nerve was hit and I have no "league wars" mentality at all...as I have friends in multiple leagues..yes, even the ABA....(blush)...

My need to engage is simply the result of another poster's (yes, we know who I was replying to) insistance for self-promotion by revealing "insider" information with some predicitons thrown in for shock value. My banter back and forth is not that different than verbal jabs tossed back and forth between Ken and yourself. I just chose not to comment on them.

Feel free to review my postings,as you probably already have, and I have always been a proponent for all leagues (not for papa joe, but yes for the aba). I just found it infuriating that the person that I responded to posted freely with negative diatribe about the ABA/CBA yet withheld "insider" information I know he had about some teams in the PBL with the same issues he criticized the other leagues for. I did rethink my replies and have chosen to avoid engaging in ways that seem to convey a turf war or league war mentality.

I guess we all get a little off-sides or lost along the way at times.

Hey PikevilleOT,
You're obeying the rules of the discussion forum. Post whatever you want to post. Who cares what some self-appointed bore thinks!?! That's what a forum is for...discussion.

[LightningMan]

Originally Posted by Ken, Steelheads fan

Hey PikevilleOT,
You're obeying the rules of the discussion forum. Post whatever you want to post. Who cares what some self-appointed bore thinks!?! That's what a forum is for...discussion.

Your ears should be burning.

[DazedAndAmused]

Originally Posted by Ken, Steelheads fan

Hey PikevilleOT,
You're obeying the rules of the discussion forum. Post whatever you want to post. Who cares what some self-appointed bore thinks!?! That's what a forum is for...discussion.

I agree, post whatever you want. I never said you shouldn't.

[DazedAndAmused]

Originally Posted by LightningMan

Your ears should be burning.

My ears are burning, and Ken's pants are on fire.

[zeke41]

In PikevilleOT's defense, he is not just a CBA guy. He's a big Minor league guy, and not just basketball. He's probably a bigger Minor league baseball fan.

Anyway, he's been following the PBL more since I'll be playing in the PBL this coming season.

[DazedAndAmused]

Originally Posted by zeke41

In PikevilleOT's defense, he is not just a CBA guy. He's a big Minor league guy, and not just basketball. He's probably a bigger Minor league baseball fan.

Anyway, he's been following the PBL more since I'll be playing in the PBL this coming season.

ken and pike......I took this off topic and my own intent ....my bad....keep on posting...peace

[zeke41]

ALL---RIGHTY---THEN....

Anyway, I think the draft was awesome! Finally, a league that throws a little extra at the players. Even if some of these guys were signed already or knew where they were going...the prestige and professionalism displayed towards these guys will impact their careers. There is no question whether or not the PBL appreciates their players (unlike some other leagues). Some of them need to work on their interviewing skills, but I'm sure, if things continue to progress in this manner for the PBL, they will.

Sure...I have an agenda...I'm playing in the PBL next season. I have nothing bad to say about the CBA, and the ABA circus will be what it is (I don't need to speak on that). All I know is that I get behind things I believe in, and I believe in the PBL, but I don't need to do that by dragging any of the other leagues down. I have my issues with certain people that have crossed my path and manipulated me, but, to this day, every experience that I've had with the people involved with the PBL has been solid...nothing but professional!

When Joe Newman figured he had no liability to assist me in any way after getting rolled over by the Orlando/Las Vegas Orangemen/Aces, the PBL leadership reached out to me to show empathy (even before departing from the league). I could have been in the PBL last season if I hadn't made a commitment to the East Kentucky Miners (even though that commitment involved initially sticking around without pay, practicing my butt off, under-paid labor, paying $200/month out of my own pocket for a place to live, etc. ---- what can I say, I'm loyal to my word!!!). However, I'm a loyal guy. I didn't bail on the Aces when they needed me, and I didn't bail on the Miners when I "committed" to stay even though it was costing me money (I really wanted to play professional basketball in my old college town).

Now, 2 years later, I'm headed to this league, and I will tell my good faith and opportunity story until I'm blue in the face. If the PBL was just business-minded, they wouldn't care about a guy like me...but they do, and have shown it by bringing me opportunities over the last 2 years to help me achieve what I am trying to do.

Look at me...no high school basketball experience, 1 college varsity game at an NAIA school, and going on my third year as a professional player. I'm the epitome of why minor league basketball should exist. I work, work, work, work, work, work, work, my butt off, and I guarantee I work harder than these guys with the big school experience resume. My hope has always been that I'm able to get the opportunities to get better and continue to learn and progress as a player. The Minor leagues have given me and many other guys that opportunity, and many of us wouldn't be able to pursue our passion to play if the Minor Leagues didn't exist.

Seeing the PBL come through and do things differently...in many ways FOR THE PLAYERS (High class Player Draft, TV deal that works, player interviews, travel team in China, etc.)...is a breath of fresh air!

[psbf]

I don't know what team you're playing on Zeke, but I'll miss you in the CBA. One bright spot is you won't be an opponent of the Xplosion lol
Seriously, though, I wish you well and I'm sure you will do great. From what I've seen, the PBL is a very good league with much potential and a bright future.

[not so fast]

psbf I was wondering the same thing to zeke. What team are going to be on? I mean zeke you came to the national camp and was not even selected for the top 20 players their, and none of the players in the top twenty were drafted, so I was just curious what team has signed you? and by the way congratulations.