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Old 07-14-2017, 07:47 AM
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Post IFL losing teams; AZ Coach Frustrated

http://arizonasports.com/story/11744...hip-stability/

>>The Rattlers jumped to the Indoor Football League, an outfit that began in 2009. Arizona wrapped up their first season in the IFL with a 50-41 win over the Sioux Falls Storm in the United Bowl last Saturday.

But much like the AFL, the IFL is facing challenges with membership. The Spokane Empire ceased operations Wednesday, while the Colorado Crush, Salt Lake Screaming Eagles and Cedar Rapids Titans have all also been mentioned as candidates for a shutdown. Meanwhile, the Wichita Falls Nighthawks, Green Bay Blizzard and Nebraska Danger all plan to relocate to Champions Indoor Football League for geographic and travel reasons.

Kevin Guy, the head coach, who just won his fourth championship with the Rattlers, is frustrated by the lack of stability.<<

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Old 07-14-2017, 05:23 PM
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Default IFL Done?

just from the outside looking in, the IFL in one season went from appearing to be the most stable of the Indoor/Arena Leagues to League most likely to disappear come 2018 . . .

Might be time for some of these leagues to merge and/or consolidate into one or two stable organizations going forward . . .

just spitballing . . .
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:57 PM
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What has been the case for some time now, its not simply about having revenue but what if any profitability is obtainable.

A merger is going to have to happen, and also conversation about working relationships that are long over due will need to take place.

This is a market shake up,that will realign the sport unlike years past.
The sport must finally face the material facts of its marketplace and make some decision on what the market cap is, though the market cap has already clearly been established.
When teams play in large arena's and can only or barely seat 1000 for an audience that market is established,the question then becomes based upon the league does that team fit in that league, and what if anything does that league really offer that team, because the breakdown of the team also drags that league down.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:10 PM
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The Market wins as it doesn't really want or need this $hit.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:20 AM
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What has been the case for some time now, its not simply about having revenue but what if any profitability is obtainable.

A merger is going to have to happen, and also conversation about working relationships that are long over due will need to take place.

This is a market shake up,that will realign the sport unlike years past.
The sport must finally face the material facts of its marketplace and make some decision on what the market cap is, though the market cap has already clearly been established.
When teams play in large arena's and can only or barely seat 1000 for an audience that market is established,the question then becomes based upon the league does that team fit in that league, and what if anything does that league really offer that team, because the breakdown of the team also drags that league down.
I agree, AFL eating costs for failed franchises has dragged them down. But their new model may not attract new owners quickly. At least it appears they stopped the bleeding. And losing solid well attended cities like AZ, JAX who went to other leagues and SJ Orlando who just gave up due to covering failed franchises- that's the trouble of the single entity model - debts are everyones.

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Old 07-16-2017, 01:33 AM
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Being a fan of a team in a single entity league, I'm going to disagree with this statement- at least as a standalone.

When you have a source of shareable income, that can get spread around. The irony here... MLS is DESIGNED to lose money. However, SUM (the marketing arm essentially owned by MLS owners) makes the real money, partly because it manages all soccer TV rights in the United States, especially the national team. So we're talking about an innovative revenue stream accessible to a single entity structure.

The AFL lacks similar income sources. That's the real problem.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:18 AM
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Good point Pounder, in looking over the research conducted by outside sources on the AFL league and certain teams analysis of the marketplace, they have continued to fail at understanding how to read the information then follow what it suggest.

Revenue,Growth, and Scale is the heart beat to any business but in the startup plan must be understood, there is a way to make this viable as you stated but everything we see today from the arena and indoor bunch is based upon a complete misunderstanding of the unique business that can be held within sports, and by simply staying with the traditional strategies they will continue to fail.

Already established is a limited audience base, now can that grow even though it hasn't, I would suggest yes there is a continuing misunderstanding of how the owners from the major sports leagues have made it, its not because they are so much smarter than everyone else, no billionaire wants to under write his team simply because he knows its unsustainable without some in flux of outside cash exchanges.

In closing today to enter a league (indoor) they ask for the $5,000 application fee, but the question is what are you the buyer really buying, the league is the worst example of why you should invest in a losing entity the league as a franchisor is worthless and has nothing outside the buyer's
ego to play on as a real selling point, I'll stop here but great point Pounder.
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