Get A Life!

[aba_insider]

Wow! First time visitor and poster.

I am an ABA fan. I cannot believe what passes for gossip and/or truth on this page.

If all you say about Joe Newman is true, shouldn't he be in jail?

Some posters said the league was OVER back in january and February, that the Nighthawks were gonna' run joe out. yet he is still here. The league is still here.

You rag him for the teams going belly up - yet you don't point out the bankruptcy of the CBA under Isaiah, or that games have been cancelled due to poor facilities in the CBA recently , and on and on and on, or that the NBDL salary cap is only $40,000 more when you don't count non-assigned drafted players, or that 6 of the top-20 minor league players in the rankings last year came from the ABA, etc.

The posters who rag the ABA fall into a few categories -

1) Team that left.

2) teams that failed.

3) Non-intelligent people.

The minor leagues should be taken for what they are - minor league.

The ABA has all kinds of problems with how it is managed, but who doesn't by comparison. The 8 teams CBA?

A few changes could made to salvage the ABA and make it a worthwhile league. Whether they ever make them, who knows. But I do know they don't deserve the savagery they get on here.

[Chuck the Writer]

Originally Posted by aba_insider

Wow! First time visitor and poster.

At least under this name. Not counting all the posts as ABA06er and Corning Tax Payer and all your other nicknames.

I am an ABA fan. I cannot believe what passes for gossip and/or truth on this page.

If all you say about Joe Newman is true, shouldn't he be in jail?

Yes he should. But things like this take forever. And Crazy Joe has been smart in the people he deceives.

Some posters said the league was OVER back in january and February, that the Nighthawks were gonna' run joe out. yet he is still here. The league is still here.

So are cockroaches. Hey, maybe that can be the name of a new ABA team!

You rag him for the teams going belly up - yet you don't point out the bankruptcy of the CBA under Isaiah, or that games have been cancelled due to poor facilities in the CBA recently , and on and on and on

Scuse me?

First things first.

Nobody has ever on this board defended Isiah Thomas. What Isiah Thomas did to the CBA was reprehensible. I wrote an entire unbiased dissertation on the Isiah Thomas ownership period at the CBA Museum. The fact is that when Isiah was offered the head coaching job of the Indiana Pacers, he had to sell the CBA because of the "conflict of interest" rule - i.e., a coach of an NBA team can't own an entire developmental league. This meant that the CBA was placed in a blind trust, and the ten teams in the league at that time WERE NOT FINANCED. The league had to shut down; to the CBA's credit, five of those franchises jumped to the IBL to finish their season, then the CBA was reorganized and restarted for the 2001-02 season. This meant that although the CBA was not able to finish its season, it was able to continue its history.

And your claim about CBA games being canceled due to poor facilities is horse manure. Every facility that has hosted CBA contests have been top-notch and all the games have been played in those buildings. Let's use a starting point that is equivalent for both the CBA and the returning ABA - the 1999-2000 season. From that time period until today, the CBA has played all their regularly scheduled contests in the buildings in which they were originally scheduled, without any problems of poor or inadequate facilities comprising same. The ABA? Teams are playing games at high schools and community centers and athletic fitness facilities, and are playing in these facilities only because they may be the only buildings teams can afford. Your argument is specious and faulty. NEXT...

or that 6 of the top-20 minor league players in the rankings last year came from the ABA, etc.

Totally unscientific statistic and lacking in any credibility. The list you're referring to comes from probasketballnews.com, and it is generated by one person, Sam Amico (similar to when your buddy Brad Hester puts together the ABA Power Rankings, which are about as accurate as 2+2=5). Sam equates all leagues as equal, which is equivalent to comparing AHL hockey players with QMJHL hockey players, or International League baseballers with NY-Penn baseballers.

The posters who rag the ABA fall into a few categories -

1) Team that left.

2) teams that failed.

3) Non-intelligent people.

And the person under several aliases (you) who defends the ABA falls into a few categories:

1. Bash the CBA and the D-League with spurious suppositions and namecalling.

2. Claim that because of the success of the Rochester Razorsharks, the ABA is better than any other league.

3. Defend the ABA's numerous shortcomings by claiming that the league's quantity of teams surpasses its below-quality style of play.

The ABA has all kinds of problems with how it is managed, but who doesn't by comparison. The 8 teams CBA?

QED. The CBA is quality, the ABA is just a process. Besides, the best team in the ABA right now is playing over in the USBL - you might have heard of them, the Utica Wreckers?

A few changes could made to salvage the ABA and make it a worthwhile league.

Yep... get away from Joe Newman, get away from Tom Chichester, trim the league down to maybe 16 franchises, put together a decent statistics page, undergo due diligence interviews with team owners - and call it the PBL.

Whether they ever make them, who knows. But I do know they don't deserve the savagery they get on here.

Right... If you want to effect change, you have to be the effect of the change. And "change" does not mean coming up with new nicknames on a message board, crunchy.

[OneBetter]

Originally Posted by aba_insider

Wow! First time visitor and poster.

I am an ABA fan. I cannot believe what passes for gossip and/or truth on this page.

If all you say about Joe Newman is true, shouldn't he be in jail?

Some posters said the league was OVER back in january and February, that the Nighthawks were gonna' run joe out. yet he is still here. The league is still here.

You rag him for the teams going belly up - yet you don't point out the bankruptcy of the CBA under Isaiah, or that games have been cancelled due to poor facilities in the CBA recently , and on and on and on, or that the NBDL salary cap is only $40,000 more when you don't count non-assigned drafted players, or that 6 of the top-20 minor league players in the rankings last year came from the ABA, etc.

The posters who rag the ABA fall into a few categories -

1) Team that left.

2) teams that failed.

3) Non-intelligent people.

The minor leagues should be taken for what they are - minor league.

The ABA has all kinds of problems with how it is managed, but who doesn't by comparison. The 8 teams CBA?

A few changes could made to salvage the ABA and make it a worthwhile league. Whether they ever make them, who knows. But I do know they don't deserve the savagery they get on here.

Hi ABA06er. It took you a while to get another alias. I'm glad you decided to create some categories for posters on here. You definitely fall into your own self-described category 3.

[Paul S]

You know, you are just like the actual ABA itself, Mr. ABAInsider. Ya, show up, announce you are new and different and completely unbiased and everyone else is at fault. Kind of like the ABA, the team leaves town in a cloud of bad debts, broken promises' and unpaid players only for the ABA to magically reappear!!!!! But the new ABA is new and different, completely unbiased and unrelated to the others and everyone else is at fault.

Changing your screen name won't help. Fix your Bulls__t league and worry about OSC second.

[The Magician]

Someone needs to come up with:

The posters who rag the CBA fall into a few categories -

For some odd reason ... The "ABA Insiders" just can't seem to leave the CBA alone?

[tbayz1]

its funny how quick ABA06er appeared on the boards haha

[utahstarsticketholder]

you must have a persecution complex... as ABA06er and now as aba_insider. You are very sad person to derive pleasure from being smacked down time after time. I visit and post on this forum because of the shame you and Ole Joe bring to the name American Basketball Association.
It is too bad the Stern and the NBA board will not strip you and Ole Joe of the use of the name ABA. But the real ABA being but a distant and fading memory perhaps it is not worth the effort.
Although some would think the NBA would have a conscious about the tarnishing of a property they still own, not to mention the confusion about the current ("ABA*) legacy versus the romantic history of the league in the 70's.
But when you attack those on this board with your nonsensical postings, you attack those who are fans of minor league basketball. The very people that line up to purchase tickets to support their local team. But with a business plan that looks to cash franchise reservation checks and do little else to run the business, how can you sleep at night?
Sorry for the long posting.
My wish for you, is to find help! So that you may come to understand the pain and harm you cause the very communities, players, coaches and fans with this ponzi scheme. jack

[TheStandard]

See this is the problem they are still disgruntled that Ricardo left the ABA to go to the CBA. But even Mr. Richardson will tell you that it was due to Joe's lack of listening and wanting to do it his way to benefit his pockets; the main reason towards leaving.

Honestly. Quit your sour grapes about the CBA and the Peanut Butter League and the D-League (D does not mean Defense in this league). The ABA is like NIFL even the creatures from the Hills Have Eyes are afraid of it.