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one way
01-02-2008, 05:03 PM
Do we really need a press release announcing that a player was considered to be player of the week? Come on. Kentucky is great at this- spinning press release after press release about nothing. Coach K washes his socks today will be featured topic in tommorrow's release. By the weekend, Kentucky will put out a release that Josh Pace actually stopped someone on defense and had words with Boo Jackson over what Boo's girlfriend was wearing at the game.

FrontOffice
01-02-2008, 05:16 PM
I'm starting to think you're an angry ex-girlfriend of Coach Keathley. You only post to rip him or the Miners. Did he hurt you? Do you need a hug?

preeths
01-02-2008, 05:58 PM
Too many minor league basketball teams don't send out enough information. I'm certainly not going to rip on one that sends out a good amount of it. More power to them. You always have the option of not reading their releases.

one way
01-02-2008, 06:15 PM
Do not need a hug, just a sense of professionalism when it comes to so called professional teams. The proof is in the pudding. Let me ask you this, do you ever, ever, ever see a NBDL team put out this type of release? No way. Do you ever see an NBA put out this type of release? No way. That should tell you something. Professionalism and standards is what I need not hugs or waste of time releases.

MathProf64
01-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Could you by chance show us which release you're refering to?

Minor Leaguer
01-02-2008, 06:46 PM
Clearly one way is referring to this press release: http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3575720 . I do agree 100% with what one way says though. Preeths, you are right in the fact that most minor league teams don't send out enough press releases. Having said that though, East Kentucky is not among this majority. There are certain things that are not worthy of writing a press release about and the fact that Josh Pace got nominated for player of the week is one of them.

Every team has one player per week that is submitted to the Commissioner's office as a candidate for Player of the Week. Now obviously if the player wins the weekly award, this would be worthy of writing a press release, but not the mere fact that he was in consideration for it. Like one way said, you never see any of the D League teams doing that.

bull1104
01-02-2008, 08:22 PM
Front Office ~ I agree with you. One Way might be right about this deal...but I feel the same way about jbirdmontana (does that mean "jailbird"?)...all he does is rip Coach Wedman and talk about Marlyn Bryant...even though the Explorers had their worst loss of the year after Bryant joined them. I think he needs a hug, too. And needs to actually get over his beef (or crush) with (on) Wedman and Bryant.

heavesrock
01-02-2008, 08:33 PM
I agree it's not a necessary press release, but it's nothing get worked up over, geez.

preeths
01-02-2008, 09:32 PM
I agree it's not a necessary press release, but it's nothing get worked up over, geez.

Yes, that's the bottom line.

FrontOffice
01-02-2008, 09:48 PM
One way, I seem to remember seeing a copy of the commercial Chris Bosh put out on Canadian TV, to get selected to the All-Star game, today on Sportscenter...

Not to mention to mention the campaign by Tim Duncan's camp and the Spurs to move him from Center to Forward so that Yao Ming wouldn't break his consecutive streak of All-Star starts.

I think we can all agree the gold standard for professionalism, on and off court, are the San Antonio Spurs

Do I think the press release was needed? Probably not, but honestly who cares. It in no way affects you and if thats the only thing you can think of to harp on then you need to find something better to do with your time or better yet stop being such an angry person.

zeke41
01-03-2008, 12:06 AM
Listen...it's free enterprise at its best. The Miners are doing what they can to compete against other teams to show that they have the best player/organization/ etc. around. Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...

If you're going to get worked up over the a good job of marketing, you may need to try pilates or Yoga to keep your sanity One Way!
Pace almost won his second player of the week award. He's the real deal, and any opportunity to get his name out there so people can talk about him and create a buzz is good for him, Eastern Kentucky, and the CBA.

Some teams don't do any marketing. This is obviously not the case in East KY. Heaves said it best..."it's nothing get worked up over, geez."
By the way...

Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...

one way
01-03-2008, 10:47 AM
I thought that you were supposed to be on the team zeke. What happened? Maybe you should promote Josh pace so he gets up and gets out. Then we can see the release of Zeke gets signed by Kentucky. That one I would pay to see

zeke41
01-03-2008, 03:15 PM
You wouldn't be the first to say that, One Way! If I squeeze on the roster, I'd probably add about 100 or so people to the stands! I've got a lot of people pulling for me here in Pikeville, not to mention a crap load of folks from my home town near Detroit, MI that would make the drive to see me play a game. Heck, thanks to my own personal website www.thecrossoverbasketball.com, I even have fans as far as North Dakota rooting for me. I've been blogging about the season all year. If I knew in time, I would most likely get people from Florida to come up and see me play. I know a lot of my old teammates from Orlando would probably come.

I guess that's what people want to see though - long shot, inspirational stories. It hasn't been easy trying to make something out of a basketball career after being cut 5 times in high school and barely playing college basketball. I think I've done alright though. If it doesn't happen this season, I'll be fully prepared and ready to handle business next season. I've been working my tail off, and that always pays off in the long run.

So you'll make the trip to see me play? Heck, I'll tell you what - I'll buy your ticket for that game, but you've gotta bring some "paying" friends! HA HA HA HA HA - gotta love marketing strategies! :D :-D :D :-D

Oh, and maybe your right, although Josh Pace's shoes would be HUGE shoes to fill, that would be another opening...so....uhh....

Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...Josh Pace...

zeke41
01-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Come to think of it, now that I'm doing the math, it might even be more than 100 people I would add to the stands! ;)

psbf
01-03-2008, 03:36 PM
to get into your website, Zeke, but I came up empty. I was hoping see a picture of you(maybe wearing a Basketball uniform). I still have a problem believing that you made it up here, since we never met.

bull1104
01-03-2008, 03:51 PM
psbf~when you click on the link, it is copying the second parenthesis. Delete it once you have brought up the blank page and his page will come up...

heavesrock
01-03-2008, 04:00 PM
I can vouch for the fact that zeke was in Pitt. He was clearly visible on the webcast sitting on the bench, and and if you listened carefully in the introductions, the Kentucky assistant coach was announced as Mark King (that's zeke).

zeke41
01-03-2008, 04:39 PM
psbf - I asked someone where to find you and they pointed you out. I waved at you, but you were on your way out after the game. It's really hard for me to catch up with anyone until after the game, and that is after I head to the locker room and get the post game speech from Coach. then I can come out to mingle a bit. Unfortunately, you haven't been around long enough after the game. I apologize - I'm not ducking you bro. I'm actually enjoying meeting so many people from all over the place. My good friend in North Dakota missed me too for the same reason - she couldn't stick around either (it's nice to steal a Minot Miners fan from North Dakota). She has been following my website all season and is one of my big-time long-distance supporters.

I fixed the link issue by the way. I did add some pictures - none of me in a jersey yet though. patience is a virtue I guess. I'm just enjoying being a part of the Miners organization. It's definitely, in my opinion and from what I have seen (and I guess I am biased), the top organization in the CBA! Anyway...enjoy the site!

psbf
01-03-2008, 04:41 PM
Bull1104, I tried it again and was given choices of websites with that name. One of which was a Yahoo address, so I tried a third and found another(play by your own rules). I figured it could not be Yahoo since I'm not into buying anything. I was not expecting to find choices.

Heavesrock, I admit I was not expecting to find Zeke on the bench, since I only watch the Xplosion players(X vs. E.K.). But it's when Zeke said he was up here for the other game that I was referring to.

bull1104
01-03-2008, 04:46 PM
I don't know...that's how I got it to work????

zeke41
01-03-2008, 04:48 PM
Just type www.thecrossoverbasketball.com

TheStandard
01-03-2008, 06:10 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/0f/Nerd.jpg

Now Zeke don't get mad now. But damn u sure do look like Skolnick lol

zeke41
01-03-2008, 06:14 PM
The Standard...after the Road Trips that I've been on this season and the comments I've received from away fans, my feelings can no longer be hurt.

Hey, I don't care...I'm married, and my wife is hot!:-D

That is funny, though! Makes it even more hilarious if I make it in the CBA. Come to think about it...maybe that's why I've had so much trouble making the team - I don't look like a basketball player! Hmmm....surprise...surprise!

psbf
01-03-2008, 07:47 PM
Very nice website, Zeke!
That picture--I thought I remembered seeing him in a movie.

cat1bb1
01-03-2008, 07:56 PM
Zeke!

It will be Great through Him in '08!

zeke41
01-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Thanks Cat and psbf - I've put a lot into the website. It's still a process. I try and keep everything fresh and updated.

Standard - that picture gets more hilarious everytime I see it. I should sport that full look at a game sometime! Anybody got a spare pocket protector handy that they can send me???? I sure don't know where you would go to buy one.

Minor Leaguer
01-03-2008, 09:51 PM
one way, your last post was amazing! I couldn't agree more. Zeke, like he said what happened buddy, I thought you were on the verge of making the team? Well I guess you better just keep attending every road trip that you can, because let's face it: some professional athletes just don't know when to say when as far as giving up the dream goes. I mean let's face it buddy, just take a look at the pics on your website. You aren't a member of a CBA team this year and you won't be a member of one next year. Sorry to have to play the role of Mr. Reality, but it is time to give it up Sir.

bull1104
01-03-2008, 09:58 PM
Zeke, Minor is just...minor league in dreams. NEVER let anyone tell you when it's time to give up your dream. Give up being a professional basketball player when it is no longer your passion to be one.

FrozenUpHere
01-03-2008, 10:08 PM
wow minor leaguer... telling someone to give up on their dreams?? thats low even for you.

keep working zeke so you can send ML your first sweat stained jersey. :)

Minor Leaguer
01-03-2008, 10:13 PM
Alright bull1104 and FrozenUpHere, you are seriously trying to tell me that he is going to make the team. I am realistic. The fact of the matter is it ain't gonna happen. Whether you wanna call that mean or low, so be it. I call it truthful.

bull1104, so according to you even if you are 70 years old and still have that dream, you should keep following it. Yeah sure man. See how far that gets ya.

bull1104
01-03-2008, 10:16 PM
NO, neither of us is saying he is or isn't going to make the team. But he is working his butt off toward his dream...which, even if he doesn't realize it in its current state, is better than telling someone else to give up on theirs.

Seriously, Minor Leaguer, that is both mean and low. And absolutely uncalled for. You are in charge of selling yourself out to "reality;" let other people create their own.

Minor Leaguer
01-03-2008, 10:20 PM
Like I said call me realistic man.

psbf
01-03-2008, 10:24 PM
Some people may think that they are helping with 'reality' but that is not always the case. I had to put up with my share of it last season, or what they claimed to be it.
Zeke, do what your heart says, let nobody stop you. I saw a movie once about a kid who tried to make his school's football team and everyone laughed at him. But that did not stop him. He never made it, but he did gain recognition for his efforts from everyone. Go for it!

psbf
01-03-2008, 10:25 PM
I should at at the half E.K. 58, Butte 41 at the half.

Minor Leaguer
01-03-2008, 10:26 PM
Nice inspirational story psbf. Again, I stand by my reality statement.

psbf
01-03-2008, 10:44 PM
No surprise, ML.

Minor Leaguer
01-03-2008, 10:53 PM
psbf, how about those competitive Xplosion? 9-11. They are looking good.

zeke41
01-04-2008, 04:08 AM
Allow me to chime in for a second --- You know, people have told me all of my life that I would never become a very good basketball player. They said I was too small (I was barely 5 foot tall and weighed about 90 lbs.) and not athletic enough...probably why I never made my junior high and high school teams. Plus I wasn't very good at all.

After high school, I grew to be 5'11" and I'm currently 165 lbs., and I worked hard to become a very good ball handler and passer. I believed in myself so much that I took a chance and moved from Detroit to KY in an attempt to walk-on the team at Pikeville College. Everyone (including my own parents) thought I was crazy. I made the team - first organized basketball I had played. I was...in fact...eventually cut. Big deal...6th time for me...been there and done that. I still worked hard, and told everyone in Pikeville that my plan was to get to the CBA and move up from there. Believe me - they all thought it was the funniest joke in the world...thought I should "face" reality!

1 year after college graduation, I went to a Great Lakes Storm (former CBA team) try-out. I was cut, but garnered the nickname "Pistol Pete" from Coach Mosser due to my passion and flare for the game. Not bad for a nobody in the camp. I surprised a lot of people. BUT...I was cut for the 7th time.

I felt accomplished and thought I might be at the end of the road. Long story, but shortly after, I got rejuvenated and started training again (basically I hated working as a manager at Arby's). Last year I attended a free agent camp and made the Orlando Aces team in the ABA. Ended up playing for peanuts, but got a little pay (thanks to Dee Brown) and got some great experience. Most of all, I made the most of it and involved myself in the business side of the professional basketball world - learned how to create a website, too - thus the creation of www.thecrossoverbasketball.com.

I hear about the CBA Miners coming to Pikeville, KY. I resign from the Aces (for MANY, many reasons) and start focusing solely on training (the business side kept me too busy and hindered me as a player, so I devoted myself to the playing side). I contact the Coach, sign up for the free agent camp, play hard, get invited to Veterans camp, and sign my CBA contract in November.

Pay attention - all of these things that I have accomplished were thought to have been impossible....BIG JOKES! I was told to face reality. Here's my question - who's reality am I supposed to face? The weak-minded pessimist who is scared of challenges due to a fear of failure? No - MY reality, and my reality tells me that faith and hard work will always be beneficial in the long run. Several people in Pikeville thought I was a big joke, and low and behold the irony...God drops a CBA team right in those people's backyard. Words can't express the look on some of their faces when they see me come back into town for Veterans Camp. We went on a small tour, too, so I was in the public a little bit playing hard to earn me a spot. I don't make the final cut, but coach finds a place for me and keeps me around as a team manager.

The benefit??? There's not much else to do in Pikeville, so I get to focus my free time on working out, and that has been going very well. I put up 200-300 NBA threes/day, run wind sprints and Expo Center arena stairs with a weighted vest, work on my mid-range game, and sometimes get a good workout with some of my teammates (like Bryant Northern). Any guy doing all that is going to get better. I'll bet I'm working as hard if not harder than any other basketball player right now. I'm bound to catch up skill-wise. The fact is...I am just a couple decisions away from getting to play in front of those same people in Pikeville that thought I was a joke AND the several people that love and support my efforts. I've got a lot of people in my corner. Heck, I couldn't quit if I wanted to right now...too many people have become interested in how this whole thing will turn out for me.

Now I try not to be too preachy and push Christianity in people's faces (especially on this site), but the "reality" is (as far as I believe) that God is the one who decides my reality! I believe I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Everything I do...I do to give God all the glory and honor and praise. That's why I have the website. My life experience has inspired so many people to develop a deeper relationship with God. That's why I do what I do.

Minor Leaguer , I'm not mad at you. If I was mad at you for saying what you have said, I'd have to be mad at hundreds of people. I want people to believe this is impossible, because the more difficult it looks, the easier it is for me to point them to God. If I never make the Miners roster...oh well. If I never play in the NBA...then shucks. At least I tries, and I'll have no regrets. One thing I know for sure...I've already accomplished way more than people thought I could accomplish in basketball, and until I can't play anymore, I'm going to keep working harder then I did the day before because I've seen for myself that hard work pays off. I'm all about playing my part in proving to others that haven't experienced the reality of God that God does, in fact, exist!

Sorry for preaching, but...in all actuality...you asked for it. Heck - if I get a jersey this season, I'll buy you a ticket, too, Minor Leaguer. Besides, you've already had too much to say about me without ever seeing me play. Come see me play, and then I'll give your criticism more value.

zeke41
01-04-2008, 04:32 AM
By the way...thank you psbf, Bull, frozen, and everyone else for the support. It's kind of crazy, but it seems the tides have turned for me. It used to be the other way around - a hundred people telling me I'm crazy to 1 person telling me to go for it.

Maybe you all can come out to my first game in a jersey if that happens, too. Is that unrealistic?

one way
01-04-2008, 07:28 AM
here is an idea, now you should do a press release about it

cat1bb1
01-04-2008, 08:17 AM
Nice inspirational story psbf. Again, I stand by my reality statement.


in a prior post, you are just one nasty ombre who wants to cause arguments with every post. This is a freindly forum where we agree to disagree not intentionally cut people down personally. Then you state nice story BUT...

Give it a break will ya Minor Leaguer!!!!

Dream on Zeke!

bull1104
01-04-2008, 09:15 AM
Zeke~not unrealistic at all.

One Way~good one. Nice bringing it back around....

Minor Leaguer
01-04-2008, 09:47 AM
Zeke - I am glad that you are happy with being the team manager. I have no problem with you trying to make the team. I probably should not have stated my opinion so boldly and for that I apologize. Instead of going off with my personal opinion some more, I will just keep it to myself.

Cat1bb1 - Relax buddy.

cat1bb1
01-04-2008, 10:02 AM
Zeke - I am glad that you are happy with being the team manager. I have no problem with you trying to make the team. I probably should not have stated my opinion so boldly and for that I apologize. Instead of going off with my personal opinion some more, I will just keep it to myself.

Cat1bb1 - Relax buddy.

All of the comments, from many, will now help you relax... :)

Minor Leaguer
01-04-2008, 11:13 AM
Doubtful son.

Pounder
01-04-2008, 11:51 AM
It's one thing if Minor Leaguer has a method behind its madness. Seems like every athlete I hear interviewed distinctly remembers the "you'll never make it" comments directed at them. It seems like the prime motivator.

However, I highly doubt that's the case here.

That doesn't mean zeke has much of a shot. What I'm saying, more than anything, is that each and every one of us completely and absolutely sucks at telling other people what to do.

Moreover, any perceived business of being "right," when there's no money behind it, what does that earn you? Honestly, ML, WTF? Coal in your stocking?

preeths
01-04-2008, 12:09 PM
What I'm saying, more than anything, is that each and every one of us completely and absolutely sucks at telling other people what to do.

This should be on billboards.

Minor Leaguer
01-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Pounder- Nope, no coal in the stocking. I'm just trying to bring a little truth back to the boards. The cold hard truth isn't always pretty, but we have to deal with it.

cat1bb1
01-04-2008, 02:54 PM
Minor League Quote, "Sorry to have to play the role of Mr. Reality, but it is time to give it up Sir."

Doubtful son.


Thank GOD I am not your son, but that is a scary thought that you would be "Mr. Reality" to your own son/daughter who have dreams...

bull1104
01-04-2008, 02:57 PM
ML~what you have to say about Zeke is NOT truth OR reality. It is your opinion. His reality is that he's working towards his dream. You obviously gave up on any you might have had a long time ago. But you have no idea where his current path will lead him. It may not be as a CBA player...but he is following his passion and THAT is the TRUTH and his REALITY. Get over yourself.

Pounder
01-04-2008, 03:21 PM
I don't know if George Lucas or his writing team came up with this line given to a Jedi, but it's awfully useful at a time like this:

"Your focus determines your reality." (Qui-Gonn, in case you were wondering)

Arguably, the pursuit of a playing career gave this man a coaching job where he otherwise wouldn't have even been close. The effort, in itself, provides both an alternate perspective to the coaching job AND motivation to stay in it.

Think about it another way- people kind of imagined this little railroad stop becoming a tourist mecca, and, well, you be the judge on what Las Vegas is in reality. Otherwise, it could have easily been Battle Mountain in Northern Nevada, merely the Armpit of America. You could say proximity to Los Angeles is a factor; beyond that, what's the difference? It's all desert.

cat1bb1
01-04-2008, 03:23 PM
ML~what you have to say about Zeke is NOT truth OR reality. It is your opinion. His reality is that he's working towards his dream. You obviously gave up on any you might have had a long time ago. But you have no idea where his current path will lead him. It may not be as a CBA player...but he is following his passion and THAT is the TRUTH and his REALITY. Get over yourself.

WELL put bull!!

heavesrock
01-04-2008, 04:02 PM
I disagree that everyone has their own personal reality. Think of all the problems that could cause if true. There is only one reality, and if in that reality zeke can play CBA basketball is yet to seen.

OneBetter
01-04-2008, 04:21 PM
NO, neither of us is saying he is or isn't going to make the team. But he is working his butt off toward his dream...which, even if he doesn't realize it in its current state, is better than telling someone else to give up on theirs.

Seriously, Minor Leaguer, that is both mean and low. And absolutely uncalled for. You are in charge of selling yourself out to "reality;" let other people create their own.

Zeke has created his own DELUSIONAL "reality" in more ways than one. At some point if you're smart you give up on childish dreams that are just NOT going to happen and move on with life.

Zeke, I know you're a sucker for believing in the ficticious and unachievable dreams. Bro, its time you grow up and move on with your life. It's cute when an 8 year old's ambition is to be a pro basketball player when he grows up. At some point it gets old and flat out embarassing for the individual. Mr. Zeke, you're past that point.

It's time to stop believing in Santa, the Easter Bunny, and other make believe characters, actually grasp the REAL REALITY and move on with your life.

I really feel sorry for you at this point. It's sad when become become so dilusional that they lose complete touch with reality.

preeths
01-04-2008, 04:29 PM
Okay, can we please move on? My goodness, I've never seen a couple of people so eager to justify their own cynicism. Zeke didn't ask for career advice. He knows your opinions, and there isn't any reason to continue hounding him.

OneBetter
01-04-2008, 04:38 PM
Okay, can we please move on? My goodness, I've never seen a couple of people so eager to justify their own cynicism. Zeke didn't ask for career advice. He knows your opinions, and there isn't any reason to continue hounding him.

And we didn't ask for Zeke to keep posting his "inspirational" story time and time again on these boards in an attempt to gardner some pity.

preeths
01-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Maybe you haven't read the rest of the thread, but there are obviously some people interested in Zeke's story. If all you can see is an attempt to garner pity, skip his posts.

Pounder
01-04-2008, 04:59 PM
I disagree that everyone has their own personal reality. Think of all the problems that could cause if true. There is only one reality, and if in that reality zeke can play CBA basketball is yet to seen.

Focus "DETERMINES" reality.

This does not mean that those parts of reality that are ready to hit you square in the face will actually miss. Note how I mentioned that the attempt seems to have garnered Zeke a coaching position.

It means an opportunity has been created. Not necessarily the one originally envisioned, BTW. However, without the focus, where do you think Zeke would be?

Speaking of reality, for OneBetter, it's D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N. (I know, skip the spelling smack... I care too much, I guess... plus I start thinking of dilution, leading to Chemistry, leading to possible fainting spells...)

Having said all this, see this internet in front of you? If you don't think that hasn't created some interesting American communities (and thus opened the possibility to some different versions of reality... consider, for instance, an American Charlton fan club), you've been missing out. We've yet to realize what we really have here.

Minor Leaguer
01-04-2008, 04:59 PM
OneBetter- Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with everything you wrote.

Minor Leaguer
01-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Pounder- It is not a coaching position. It is a team manager. They give waterboys in high school the same title.

DazedAndAmused
01-04-2008, 05:10 PM
geez, why don't you guys go kick some puppies or steal ice cream from little girls?

Minor Leaguer
01-04-2008, 05:14 PM
Sorry One Better, I don't agree with that 6:11 post of yours.

DazedandAmused - No it would be kicking puppies or stealing ice cream from little girls if the guy was 10 years old. He is a grown man!

preeths
01-04-2008, 05:28 PM
OneBetter, consider yourself on vacation. Don't ignore the mod.

DazedAndAmused
01-04-2008, 05:41 PM
um...i don't think i attempted to restate anything you said and therefore couldn't have distorted it or presented it out of context.

i just asked a rhetorical question that reflects the mood of the exchange.

but hey, anyone can post anything (almost) here. more power to zeke for posting. more power to you and ML for posting. for some reason, we all seem to have the subject worthy of slapping our opinions down.

DazedAndAmused
01-04-2008, 05:46 PM
but preeths, before his early dismissal, OB does bring up an interesting question. can you clarify the position of OSC in this regard?

preeths
01-04-2008, 05:50 PM
What is the point to which you are referring?

preeths
01-04-2008, 05:57 PM
I think I found what you're talking about. If someone involved in the minors came on the board stating that they thanked Allah or Buddha for their success, the posts would remain, just as Zeke's have. If someone else's posts consisted of intolerant rants calling them delusional or idiots for their beliefs, those posts would be removed. Please remember to direct all questions about board administration and policy to me through PM. The boards are for discussion of minor league sports.

DazedAndAmused
01-04-2008, 05:57 PM
I think OB was questioning whether the religious overtones were/should be out of bounds based on board rules and questioned whether a "pass" was/has been given because of the particular type of overtones. (Here I am paraphrasing and hopefully not distorting or taking out of context.) My apologies in advance if I have misunderstood.

preeths
01-04-2008, 05:58 PM
Please see above. Found the post to which you were referring before you replied.

DazedAndAmused
01-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Thanks. Understood on the direction for PM in the future for such questions. I saw your last post after I had already submitted mine.

preeths
01-04-2008, 06:14 PM
DandA, no problem at all. I appreciate the honest inquiry.

zeke41
01-05-2008, 12:28 PM
Before we go on any further and break down the wavering differences in reality concerning my ability to play basketball, please answer this: How do you haters justify telling me what I can and can't do without even knowing what kind of playing abilities I have? H-A-V-E Y-O-U S-E-E-N M-E P-L-A-Y?

There's a misconstrued assumption that only players that played at major NCAA schools or players that are a certain height, weight and/or a specific athletic frame are able to play the game of basketball. Pay attention - there are minor league teams jumping up all over the place. Regardless of whether or not they are well-funded, properly run organizations, the fact is there has been an explosion of talent as well as people passionate about playing this game. I'd rather watch a person struggle and strive, play with some sort of skill and leave everything on the floor while he/she is out there then watch some high-profile, cocky, arrogant, "I've had everything handed to me because I'm a blessed athlete - by the way I just signed a shoe deal" player score 40 points!

There's a lack of hunger when things come easy! That's where I'm different, and that's why I know tons of people that are earnestly anticipating me playing here. You haters are basing your assumptions about me on the fact that I'm not your typical 6'6", 200 lb. muscle-bound, non-glasses wearing, fresh out of Duke University aspiring ball player. You don't know me...you don't know what I'm capable of...and you don't know how far I've come or what gear I'm in or how beautiful the road of opportunity is looking for me.

You all settle in and get comfortable with your boring, mediocre life and let me live mine. You all have forgotten your American history - this is the land of opportunity. You get what you put into it. I've put a lot into this, and I am getting the rewards. What I'm doing is no different from a crew associate starting a job yet aspiring to prove him/herself and move up to management and maybe CEO one day. And just for your information, I'm a "Team Manager" that handles Assistant Coaching tasks...AND I have everything I need to develop more as a player. Call me delusional all you want. How STUPID are you going to feel when I start putting up some numbers on a minor league stat sheet again in the next year or two. It's going to happen....there's nothing delusional about it. Where that happens??? We'll have to wait and see. THEN...you know what I'm going to do???? I'm going to be one of the best coaches of my time. You bum haters lack vision and motivation. you cloud yourself with a stereotypical reality. Don't push your sucky, constrained by "reality" life view over in my direction. Like I said - you don't know me.

And that's my attempt at being nice about this garbage. Worrying about Mark King...man...go play video games or something and let me do what I do...HATERS! :eek:

zeke41
01-05-2008, 12:34 PM
And...by the way...thanks to all of my supporters who have encouraged me to keep going. I am...and I will! This thing is becoming larger than I had ever anticipated! I appreciate you all!

cat1bb1
01-05-2008, 01:15 PM
And...by the way...thanks to all of my supporters who have encouraged me to keep going. I am...and I will! This thing is becoming larger than I had ever anticipated! I appreciate you all!

Man, you got Heart!

Minor Leaguer
01-05-2008, 04:12 PM
Mark, get over yourself! I am so sick and tired of your "look at me and cheer for the little engine that could" story. How old are you by the way? I am guessing that you aren't some 21 year old kid anymore. Like we have said before it is all cute and fine when a ten year old kid has a dream of playing in the NBA. You have as much chance of playing in the NBA as I do. Zero! Your best hope is that the Miners are out of it by the end of the season and they decide to put you on the roster for a couple games to do you a favor since and make it a feel-good story, kind of like Great Falls did with Mike Chavez.

You claim to handle Assistant Coaching tasks for the Miners. How come you aren't listed anywhere on their website then? I don't see you under the "coaches" link or the "front office link". It sure seems like everybody else in the organization is listed. It's kind of funny how they left you out. I guess it goes to show how much they think of you.

You constantly talk about your prior previous professional experience in the ABA. In case you have't seen the ABA has also signed senior citizens to play in their games and women. Congrats, it sure takes a lot to ball in that league. Then you go on to claim that you signed this season with the Miners. You didn't sign with the Miners, you maybe got an invitation to a try-out camp or training camp, but if you had signed with the Miners you would have been a member of the team. Let me give you a little lesson about minor league basketball. Those try-out camps are used to make money for the most part.

Go ahead and use my words for motivation, although I can already hear you saying that you don't need anymore. I will be the first to come shake your hand and apologize if I am wrong, but then I certainly don't have to worry about having to do that.

ChumpDumper
01-05-2008, 04:24 PM
If you are really that sick of someone's post, why not use the handy ignore feature in your control panel?

bull1104
01-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Seriously, Minor, what are you so damn bitter about???? LEAVE HIM ALONE. All you're doing is digging yourself further in the hole of absolute disrespect from everyone on here except an intolerant atheist. Why does it bother you so much that Zeke has hopes for a future in basketball? There is something else going on here, because this obviously cannot just have to do with Zeke and his dreams.

Minor Leaguer
01-05-2008, 04:39 PM
No, there is nothing else going on here at all. I just don't feel like this board is for his sympathy stories.

bull1104
01-05-2008, 04:44 PM
Nobody is giving him sympathy. You and One Way are/were the only ones "feeling sorry" for him. He doesn't NEED sympathy. He doesn't need your bitterness. He doesn't even NEED our support. He's doing this because there's a fire in his heart for basketball. Let him be.

Minor Leaguer
01-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Clearly he wants sympathy because he didn't just post his story on here one time. He has done it numerous times. That's it for now, time to watch some football.

zeke41
01-05-2008, 05:21 PM
Wow...I've always wanted to be popular.

preeths
01-05-2008, 05:36 PM
And with that we can bring this thread to a close.