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The Skyrockets lead the Sun Kings, 29-24 after one period. It's on the Sun Kings webcast. Coming in clear so far.
but Yakima pulled it out in the end, final 99-91 before an announced crowd of 3,156. The Sun Kings lead the league with an average of 3,100(according to the announcer).
Minor Leaguer
12-19-2007, 12:46 AM
The Sun Kings proved once again tonight that they are just too dominant. 14-0 to begin the season. The announcer said that was a CBA record to begin the season undefeated. Chuck, I know you would be able to either confirm or deny that. The Sun Kings just play as a team so well, that they are going to be hard to beat.
Chuck the Writer
12-19-2007, 05:43 AM
The Sun Kings proved once again tonight that they are just too dominant. 14-0 to begin the season. The announcer said that was a CBA record to begin the season undefeated. Chuck, I know you would be able to either confirm or deny that. The Sun Kings just play as a team so well, that they are going to be hard to beat.
CBA modern record (post 1978-79) but not all-time record (post 1946-78 ). The 1968-69 Wilkes-Barre Barons went 15-0 to start their Eastern League season, they eventually finished 26-2 and won the championship playoff.
The Sun Kings still have a chance to get the all-time win streak record, held by the 1987-88 Albany Patroons at 19 games in a row.
who did the Baron's lose their two games to?
Minor Leaguer
12-19-2007, 11:34 AM
If they can get by Minot in their next contest, they have a long streak of games that they should be able to handle rather easily.
kg21obf
12-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Minot was solid, but just wore down. The Sun Kings depth is unmatched(obviously), and just sucks the life out of the opponents. The weather was horrible last nite and still an excellent turnout. There is no doubt that the SunKIngs top 5 and 2nd 5 are better than any starting Lineups in the league. I think the Sunkings actually have 10 of the top 30 players in the LEague. That might be a stretch. Any thoughts. Stats dont tell the story as none of the players get more than 25-30 minutes.
Minor Leaguer
12-19-2007, 03:40 PM
I can't argue with your post kg21obf. I think you hit it right on when you said that the Sun Kings just wear down teams. Even when playing another good team like Minot, they showed they just have too much depth. A lot of credit needs to go to Paul Woolpert as he has consistently shown that he can not only bring in talent, but get all of their players to accept the fact that it will be best for the team to distribute minutes throughout the squad. That isn't always an easy thing to do. I know Paul has been in talks before with NBA teams regarding both a scouting position (not sure about an assistant coaching position or not, but I wouldn't be surprised) and I think any NBA team that would hire the guy for any position would be making a brilliant move.
have proven that they are a very good team. But I still think that it's unfair to say that they are the best team in the league when they have not yet faced the entire league. Most, yes. But there are still teams they have yet to face. Until then, I'll say they have the potential to be the best.
Minor Leaguer
12-19-2007, 04:23 PM
That is a foolish statement. The only teams that the Sun Kings haven't played yet are the Krunk, Patroons, and Miners. The only team that is above .500 in that group is the Patroons. That is like saying the NE Patriots aren't the best team in the NFL at this current point, because they haven't played everybody in the league yet. As much as I hate the Patriots, even I have to admit that they are the best team in the league right now. Now could both the Sun Kings and Patriots lose? Of course they could. Even if they do, and you are looking at it the standings, then they both would still technically be the best teams. So I don't buy your "it's not fair to say they are the best team until they have played everybody" argument for one second.
You call my statement 'foolish'. But it is a fact! We agree that the Sun Kings are a great team. But any team with any record could knock them off. Unlike you, I don't take things for granted.
Chuck the Writer
12-19-2007, 10:51 PM
who did the Baron's lose their two games to?
The Barons lost on January 25, 1969 to the Scranton Miners, 120-119 in Scranton. Stan Pawlak led the Barons with 32 points; for Scranton, John Barnhill notched 24 points, while Jim Boeheim (yes, THAT Jim Boeheim) scored 12.
The Barons lost on February 8, 1969 to the Binghamton Flyers, 132-126 in Binghamton; the Flyers went to the line 59 times, scoring 39 free throws; the Barons only went to the line 26 times, making 18 of those. Pawlak was held to 12 points; the Barons were led by Al Butler, who had 30. George Hicker was the top scorer for the Flyers, with 36 points (he hit the only 3-pointer of the night).
Wilkes-Barre swept their opponents in the first and second rounds of the playoffs, then beat the Wilmington Blue Bombers 3-2 in the best-of-five finals - including a come-from-behind 130-115 win in Game 5 to capture the championship. Pawlak finished the year with a 27.3 ppg, including 44 3-pointers, the most of any player that year. Wilkes-Barre's Bob Keller finished as the league's top rebounder, with 15 rpg.
kg21obf
12-20-2007, 12:10 PM
So what your saying is it is all kind of a fluke the 14-0 start. The team is loaded with veterans many with some NBA experience and are at an age where they realize they are not going back. They are here to win big. Do you really mean things like your previous post. Or just for arguments sake. The Sunkings could forfiet there next ten games and still be in first.
Minor Leaguer
12-20-2007, 06:21 PM
kg21obf, I was wondering the exact same thing. He must just be saying it for arguments sake. I know he will probably come back with this, so I will beat him to the punch. Actually the Sun Kings could only forfeit their next 9 games and still be tied with the 2nd place Butte Daredevils at 3.72 QP per game.
Like I said earlier though, I can only seeing him say that for arguments sake. I hope that he isn't serious. Then again I saw a post of his that said he thinks the Xplosion are starting to pull it together. Why is that, because they beat the Calvary 7-0 two games in a row when Oklahoma had 6 players the first game and 7 players last night? It is something called depth. Yakama has it and that is why they are undefeated. The last two games Pittsburgh had way more depth than Oklahoma, not to mention the fact that probably none or at most 1 of Oklahoma's players out of those 7 should be a starter in the CBA. It is clear that Oklahoma is going to have to make some acquisitions and I'm sure Cliff will. Basically what I am saying is I don't understand why sweeping that team the last team games in those conditions is any reason to feel as though the Xplosion are pulling it together, but according to psbf I guess they are.
Minor Leaguer, you can say what you want about the Xplosion. That is your right to form an opinion on what you see. You're watching it on webcast, but I see them at every home game in person. The X have won three of their last 4 games, which is a big improvement over last season. You can be skeptical. But I see improvement and I like what head coach Carlos Knox is doing. If you don't like my observations, that's fine. But like I said, you're there looking thru a camera. I'm here watching in person!
Pounder
12-20-2007, 08:06 PM
Minor Leaguer, you can say what you want about the Xplosion. That is your right to form an opinion on what you see. You're watching it on webcast, but I see them at every home game in person. The X have won three of their last 4 games, which is a big improvement over last season. You can be skeptical. But I see improvement and I like what head coach Carlos Knox is doing. If you don't like my observations, that's fine. But like I said, you're there looking thru a camera. I'm here watching in person!
You're looking through black, gold, and red glasses... which makes me wonder how you can see through those things. :D
Of course, that makes you a fan... and the Xplosion needs more of you. For that matter, go to the USLFD board here and find my last post on the California Victory thread. Sometimes, the answer is in the mirror, no matter that the responsibility supposedly belongs with the front office. Someday, I'll have this big post ready about how the Portland Timbers made their numbers real by temporarily staying out of the way of their fans.
Meanwhile, we're entitled to see the top-to-bottom domination of Yakima and make a reasoned judgment. It's even easier to do so when we're NOT fans. Kind of warped that way, but it works.
Minor Leaguer
12-20-2007, 08:57 PM
I don't think I need to respond to that last comment by psbf. Like Pounder said, it is about time you stop looking at things through those black, gold, and red glasses that you seem to always view things through.
of all, ty Chuck.\
Second, I'm not going to comment on the C.V., since this is a Basketball forum. As far as the board you mentioined, why bother?!
I thankyou, Pounder, in saying that the X need more fans like me. I don't care what colored glasses you think I'm wearing. The fact is the X are now 8-7 and in third. Winning will help bring more fans out and the better they do, the better for the team and this area.
ML, don't pretend to think you know more about the X than I do. It's not going to happen(Pgh had a good night with the Steelers, the Pens and Pitt all winning).
I forgot to add that Oklahoma is still a good team, despite our winning both games. They are a team in transition with the coaching change but I'm sure they will get their streak back soon enough. Don't take them lightly.
Minor Leaguer
12-21-2007, 11:31 AM
How did I pretend to know more about the Xplosion than you? I am puzzled because looking back over my posts, nowhere have I ever said that. Great, you attend the games (we have only heard that about 100 times from you). What do you want, some sort of prize since you are the one of the 50 fans in the building? All we are saying is sometimes you have to take off your fan glasses and look at things from a realistic standpoint.
asking for a prize, ML. If you(or anyone else) choose to see the Xplosion in a negative manner, that is up to you. I'm painfully aware of the crowds here and I don't need constant reminders from you or anyone else! I'm a diehard fan(which is also clear) and will continue to be. My 'rose colored glasses' as you put it see that we have a decent team this season, which is the bottom line(to me). WE HAVE A TEAM(regardless of how many turnout)!! To me, that is a much better alternative to NOT having a team! So find something else to talk about!!
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