Millrats

[jamesaba]

I took a ride from Boston to Derry, New Hampshire yesterday to see what the Manchester Millrats' tryout camp looked like - and I was pretty impressed.

They had between 70 and 80 players on three full courts, along with 6 referees and several coaches. There was also about 150 spectators from the local area who were watching the action, and several news media/photographers.

The talent looked pretty good, but I was really surprised to see Brian Edwards from the Rochester Razorsharks at the camp. There was also a half dozen Frenzy players. The rest I didn't recognize but there were cars with license plates from Virginia, Md, Connecticut, PA, MA, and New York.

After the camp, they selected 12 players who then scrimmaged a professional team from the Philippines, and the tryout players won the scrimmage by 14 points.

[tbayz1]

Thanks for that news JamesABA, its good to hear that things appear to be going pretty decent in Manchester, when the franchise was annouced only a few months ago

Ian McCarthy knows has been around so he knows what it takes and what to expect, i think that franchise could do pretty well

[heavesrock]

Great to hear about good news in Manchester.

Can't wait to A1's twist on it.

[a1sports]

Hmmm let see, its 9:25 am eastern time Monday. Oh, Ill know what the TRUE story is by late afternoon. I will make the calls.

But without one call, I can tell you I doubt very highly that Brian Edwards was trying out for An ABA team when he gets a great salary, apartment with cable TV , fireplace and furnishings paid for by Rochester, Luxury bus rides to away games with plasma TVs and per diem money. I dont think he would play for free like 2 of Vermonts players did last year. Why should he when there are legit basketball leagues out there. see CBA, PBL and NBDL.

[greatlakes]

I understand how A1 could call NBDL and CBA real leagues. I do not understand how he can reference the PBL as a real league. They have not played one game, only have seven teams (not 16 as they advertise on the PBL site), no schedule, and using international rules (I thought the PBL rules were to be new and exciting).

[Chuck the Writer]

Hmmm let see, its 9:25 am eastern time Monday. Oh, Ill know what the TRUE story is by late afternoon. I will make the calls.

But without one call, I can tell you I doubt very highly that Brian Edwards was trying out for An ABA team when he gets a great salary, apartment with cable TV , fireplace and furnishings paid for by Rochester, Luxury bus rides to away games with plasma TVs and per diem money. I dont think he would play for free like 2 of Vermonts players did last year. Why should he when there are legit basketball leagues out there. see CBA, PBL and NBDL.

Okay, would someone remind me why A1Sports is considered a reliable source for information?

[jamesaba]

I don't know if he was there trying out or not - all of the players were trying to get the attention of the Philippine coaches. But regardless the camp was a great success and its another Razorshark apparently not going back...like Reaves, Brown, & Sims. If he was why bother to travel all the way to NH? To see the foliage?

[TheStandard]

Guys show up to tryouts especially if there's a team from another country playing them afterwards because????? You do good you may get picked up by the overseas team and make money

[Corning Bulldogs]

"and its another Razorshark apparently not going back...like Reaves, Brown, & Sims." - JamesABA


You can add Nigel Moore the former Alabama A & M star to the list of players not returning to Rochester as well. He came to both of our tryouts and was going to sign with us until Germany called and offered him a lot of cash and hes over there now.

[a1sports]

Oh Paul...!!!

Corning is at it again. I spoke to Nigel before he went to Germany and he said NO WAY was he ever going to sign with Corning.

Time for another Vacation for Corning....

[BBallGrl]

And there was some great talent there, from all over the country.... and the team of 11 that they announced after the tryout to play the Philippine team was great. What i don't understand is why in the world they would pick another 15-20 to go to a veteran's camp (per the press release). Absolutely with all the people there, they could have missed a couple of potential players, but NOT 15-20!!!!! Veteran's Camp will be interesting and I'm wondering if they'll sign anyone before then??!!! Overall though, the entire tryout was VERY well run and very professional. Looking forward to a pretty good season from the team!

[heavesrock]

I say time for a vacation for A1 for spreading false rumors about the sale of Vermont.

[Corning Bulldogs]

A1sports ,

I know its ruff but just breathe.

You're PBL is tanking fast, 80 days until the season and they have 7 teams not the 16 that were promised , no schedule out, no tickets on sale. The Owner/GM of the Razorsharks is up on Felony Court Charges for two DWI arrests with in 6 years he also happens to be running the PBL as well.

Just Breathe..............

[Corning Bulldogs]

I also second HeavesRock notion that A1 needs a vacation for spreading lies about the sale of Vermont and the lies that spue out of him 15 times a day.


A1 just breathe.........

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

A1sports ,

I know its ruff but just breathe.

You're PBL is tanking fast, 80 days until the season and they have 7 teams not the 16 that were promised , no schedule out, no tickets on sale. The Owner/GM of the Razorsharks is up on Felony Court Charges for two DWI arrests with in 6 years he also happens to be running the PBL as well.

Just Breathe..............

Lawn Doctor -
The PBL has no bearing on your team and league. The ABA has yet to re-release the 'official' schedule, after the debacle last month. Teams are releasing individual schedules with teams that no longer exist, or have no home arena (and, by extension, no home dates).

Once again you choose to harp on the legal issue facing someone from the Razorsharks organization. It has nothing to do with the PBL - and please don't try a 'negative image' angle. You need only look to the midwest for a bigger PR nightmare for a professional sports league.

You have issues with A1 - fine. But don't use any percieved broken 'promises' from another league when arguing for your ABA. There are 7 years of basketball carcasses lining the ABA's history.

Worry about the CornDogs, and hope that the rest of your league figures out what the h*ll it is doing by opening night.

[tbayz1]

sharks are losing players!!

not every player wants to wait until January to play, so whats wrong with a guy going to a tryout lol

[tbayz1]

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3543182

[Corning Bulldogs]

Tbayz dont you see.

We had two former sharks players come thru Corning's tryouts , one ended up going to Germany the other one we cutt.

Millrats seem as if they had one go thru a tryout with them.

Both cases A1 sais its lies and they never were at the tryouts.

Does the ABA have flaws ? YES. Other posters point out the flaws while A1 sports makes up lies instead of just sticking with the flaws of the league and then turns around and praises the PBL as the best thing since sliced bread.

A1 appears to be a plant put here to tell lies about the ABA while building up the PBL as the best league in minor league sports even though they are made up of 7 teams all coming from the ABA and have yet to have a season.

I respect all of the other posters on OSC because they stick with the actual flaws while A1 makes up his flaws.

[TheStandard]

Sharks are losing players now but gaining them later.

As a person who is heavily involved in pro sports in Europe. An American or Foreign born player is paid a good amount of money to do the following.

Be "The Man" on the team, Score at will, Win Games, and put butts on the seats. To these owners and fans outside of the US; you are their savior and you have to do these things. If you go cold for even two to three games. You will get at the most a two week severance pay and your plane ticket back home.

I've been working with guys that have gone there. led the league in so many categories its not even funny and then they just go cold, or the team cant afford their pay or they found some other guy that will do it for cheap. It happens.

That's what happens when you are not in the world of the NBA where at least releasing you gets you a trip to the D League

[tbayz1]

He does have a point^(bulldogs)

ill wait and see when the PBL starts playing games to see how well they do, so far the league is made up off all ABA teams, teams that are nothing more than the better ones in the ABA IMO, Rochester is really the only big time franchise, everyone else, whats so special. Yeah they left the ABA and Joe, and started their own thing good for them and I wish em luck but this league hasnt even played a game yet, whats the call for praise than? If they fail, a1 honestly man you made a really big ass of yourself going praising this league and being so for it, while you are so anti-aba its not even funny. How can you be soo confident in this league yet?

And I agree with Chuck, why is a1 such a reliable source of info, sure hes got some connections and he seems to know alot of whats up with the PBL, but anyone can come on here and post that he called X amount of teams, and has spoke to this player, blah blah blah, im done with this crap seriously, the posts are getting to a point where who really cares, it obvious a1 gets something out of bashing the ABA and praising the PBL, cmon man chill out a little :)

[Corning Bulldogs]

Standard is right on point......

My teams best player , Will "the big thrill" Campbell was a first team JUCO all-american then a two time all conference player and leading rebounder in Conference USA back before all the power house teams jumped to the big east conference.

He almost stuck in the NBA with the Raptors then went overseas to France where he averaged 17 points 8 rebounds and 4 assists , Great numbers right ? He was sent back home with 3 weeks left in the season because he was replaced with a cheaper less talented American Player to finish out the season.

Overseas is a great place to play but if you are an American Player (most teams can only carry 1 or 2) do not ever get comftorable with one team because you could be gone the next day.

Then comes the decision - do I want to bounce around overseas teams all my life or go back to the states and be with family and get a real job , for many great players that is what happens.

[jamesaba]

...yes the best franchise that was in the ABA, but now losing 1/3 of their home game revenue and tripling their travel costs. Can't be good. And losing their marquee players won't help.

[Corning Bulldogs]

Tbayz - exactly. Why does A1 spend so much time ripping the ABA but on the other hand building up the PBL as the best sports league ever made ?

The PBL is 7 former ABA teams , that is all it is right now. Never played a game, never had a season. Season is 80 days away and still very, very little information can be found on anything.

Could it be a solid league ? Yes. But why is A1 sports hyping it up so much before we know what it is going to be ? Sounds like he has a vested interest in building up the PBL and tearing down the ABA.

Atleast the other posters who point out the flaws of the ABA stick to the facts mostly unlike A1 , and no other poster but A1 hypes up the PBL.


tbayz1
Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007
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He does have a point^(bulldogs)

ill wait and see when the PBL starts playing games to see how well they do, so far the league is made up off all ABA teams, teams that are nothing more than the better ones in the ABA IMO, Rochester is really the only big time franchise, everyone else, whats so special. Yeah they left the ABA and Joe, and started their own thing good for them and I wish em luck but this league hasnt even played a game yet, whats the call for praise than? If they fail, a1 honestly man you made a really big ass of yourself going praising this league and being so for it, while you are so anti-aba its not even funny. How can you be soo confident in this league yet?

And I agree with Chuck, why is a1 such a reliable source of info, sure hes got some connections and he seems to know alot of whats up with the PBL, but anyone can come on here and post that he called X amount of teams, and has spoke to this player, blah blah blah, im done with this crap seriously, the posts are getting to a point where who really cares, it obvious a1 gets something out of bashing the ABA and praising the PBL, cmon man chill out a little
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[Paul S]

I see what you guys are saying, see when I read A1's postings I think they are funny first, and then accurate second. He definately has a "in" with the ABA and PBL, I mean he does know what hes' talking about.

Maybe the kid next door who mows his lawn is sneaking into his house, firing up his computer, going to OSC, logging in as A1 and spewing BS on this board. Those little lawn mowing kids are up to no good all over the place.

[a1sports]

All anyone has to do is contact Paul by PM and he will tell you how accurate I am. Paul will tell you that I get good stuff sent to me. Not my job to show my sources to wanna be owners in the rec league ABA. The ABA has ruined enough lives and sponsors IMO.

I am not here to prop up the PBL I just like the fact that the smart owners left the ABA and are trying to do something good. They may or they may not, your ABA cant do anything right after 7 years. Again, I dont own a team, you do Corning and writing about rochester this and rochester that does nothing for you except show to me that you have zero business sense.

Corning likes to point out that Rochester is losing players...so does that mean they cant find 10 quality players...common Kid your losing it. Thats the last thing anyone in minor league basketball needs to worry about is finding players, what they need to find and have is money and sponsors and that takes business know how.

And for your info and other pro rec league posters. Brain Edwards was flown in by the PBA to try out for them, He wasnt trying-out for an ABA team, why would he go down in salary? Simple phone call - simple answer. And you want to run a business and dont know how to use the phone.. Its gonna be tough for you and others...

[heavesrock]

So PAul, is Vermont being sold?

[Corning Bulldogs]

Just another lie.....

He lies 99 times is correct once out of 100 and that makes him a inside super genius , or a dumb *** who gets lucky every now and then.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Just another lie.....

He lies 99 times is correct once out of 100 and that makes him a inside super genius , or a dumb *** who gets lucky every now and then.

ABA06er:
246 posts

1 out of 100 is still better than 246 for 246...


Oh, and 21 posts for "Corning Tax Payer" as well...
Credibility arguments are not something you should be looking to win around here...

[rams80]

All anyone has to do is contact Paul by PM and he will tell you how accurate I am. Paul will tell you that I get good stuff sent to me. Not my job to show my sources to wanna be owners in the rec league ABA. The ABA has ruined enough lives and sponsors IMO.

I am not here to prop up the PBL I just like the fact that the smart owners left the ABA and are trying to do something good. They may or they may not, your ABA cant do anything right after 7 years. Again, I dont own a team, you do Corning and writing about rochester this and rochester that does nothing for you except show to me that you have zero business sense.

Corning likes to point out that Rochester is losing players...so does that mean they cant find 10 quality players...common Kid your losing it. Thats the last thing anyone in minor league basketball needs to worry about is finding players, what they need to find and have is money and sponsors and that takes business know how.

And for your info and other pro rec league posters. Brain Edwards was flown in by the PBA to try out for them, He wasnt trying-out for an ABA team, why would he go down in salary? Simple phone call - simple answer. And you want to run a business and dont know how to use the phone.. Its gonna be tough for you and others...

Yes....but you've also offered to out sources in the past if certain things didn't happen before a certain date. Said things did not happen before said date, but you backed down and didn't offer them up. Your credibility with me has always been poor IMO after that.

Also...which source told you I was Joe Newman that one time? *rolls eyes*

As for Corning, don't you have a bake sale to run or a lawn to mow or some other way to amass capital for the Florida road trip?

Also...it's "cut", not "cutt".

[tbayz1]

This thread is way off topic and deserves to be put to a rest, this is like 2 year olds going back and forth

[preeths]

Fact is, and I know some hate to hear it, A1 has brought some good information to the board that the public record has confirmed. Yes, there are times you have to separate the facts he alleges from his interpretations and theories, but that is usually pretty easy to do.

I would like to see him provide some more details sometimes, as I believe that would quiet some doubts. For instance, why not tell us which ABA teams you called? I've had similar experiences when trying to track down ABA scores, so I don't doubt the details of your report, but posting the names of the teams would allow for confirmation and place the blame for poor team operations on the organizations that truly deserve it. Quite simply, you'd remove yourself from any doubt and do it very easily.

I've learned that he often has access to a lot of information, and sources within ABA organizations have confirmed he's more right than wrong. At a recent ABA meeting, one table spent a considerable amount of time trying to figure out who he was because this board was getting his accurate (in the words of one attendee) assessment of what was going on while the meeting was being conducted.

[tops804]

At a recent ABA meeting, one table spent a considerable amount of time trying to figure out who he was because this board was getting his accurate (in the words of one attendee) assessment of what was going on while the meeting was being conducted.

Its hard to believe the A.B.A. would be that concerned...I guess with all the
problems they are having, they would have better things to do in a meeting
then worry about who is leaking information that they should be willing to
give after the fact anyway....

[TheStandard]

Its hard to believe the A.B.A. would be that concerned...I guess with all the
problems they are having, they would have better things to do in a meeting
then worry about who is leaking information that they should be willing to
give after the fact anyway....

Oh Trust me the were looking.

I know. Because even a few owners told me about "The Mystery Person" and it was A1. Who went under the alias of Mike on that day.

I know his real name. Won't ever disclose it. Trust me, somethings should just be kept in silence

[bomp]

I don't know if he was there trying out or not - all of the players were trying to get the attention of the Philippine coaches. But regardless the camp was a great success and its another Razorshark apparently not going back...like Reaves, Brown, & Sims. If he was why bother to travel all the way to NH? To see the foliage?

The foliage is very, very nice this time of year up there. :p

[Paul S]

I think when Joe was shouting LAWSUIT it was partially directed at "Mike". He was probably po'ed that someone waltzed in and ate off of the buffet.

Joe was madder than a stuck gator about some of the postings here. Don't get me wrong, I myself have ZERO info about this lunatic asylum that poses' as a basketball league.

A1- WHen your documentary comes out, PM me and I will buy the first copy, I'm not PM'ing you this as your inbox is full and cannot accept any new messages. Paul.

[BBallGrl]

Was interested in seeing the first scrimmage in Quebec on Friday... BUT, do they even have any players signed yet??? It's Tuesday! Will Friday's scrimmage even happen?