Orange County Gladiators First Commercial

[dclarke69]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Zci7jw8o0

[Chuck the Writer]

Decent commercial...

When are you going to have your official schedule on line? Right now you're looking at eight weeks before tip-off...

[a1sports]

Very Nice...

How long before your in the CBA or PBL?

easy on the kool-aid....look before drink !!! Go back a year and start reading the posts !

[besl]

It's a great looking commercial, but I'd be curious if this team has the money to actually put it on the air.

From what I could gather on the website spotrunner.com, it costs an average of $2,300 to run an ad on any major southern California TV station that people actually watch.

And even if the team can afford the advertising rates, you still have to deal with every other team you play against showing up and looking like a rec league team. It will be funny if the Buzz show up to play the Gladiators still wearing their Orange County uniforms from a couple years ago.

[Juicemann13]

I don't know much about the O.C., but I hope that coach is a better coach then actor.

LOL

Look how he's holding the ball, so uncomfortable and awkward.

[TheStandard]

It's a great looking commercial, but I'd be curious if this team has the money to actually put it on the air.

From what I could gather on the website spotrunner.com, it costs an average of $2,300 to run an ad on any major southern California TV station that people actually watch.

And even if the team can afford the advertising rates, you still have to deal with every other team you play against showing up and looking like a rec league team. It will be funny if the Buzz show up to play the Gladiators still wearing their Orange County uniforms from a couple years ago.

They still use the OC Buzz colors.

[TheStandard]

i will go to one of their games. if its ok then i will go again but if i see the BS of cancellations and all of this usual ABA Crap im buying billboard space someone on the 405, I-10, 5, 55, 73, 60, 91, 57 Saying. STAY AWAY FROM THE ABA

[dclarke69]

Schedule will be on-line this week. We are just waiting for our ticekt company to get all of the info into the ordering system so people can buy ticekts for individual games. Probably Tuesday or Wednesday.

Just my two cents as I do not read this baord a lot but it seems like some people spend an awful lot of time telling everybody how crappy everything is and because the league has had so many issues, it has caused for many of you to be very synical. At some point if you have become this disinchanted with the product, why do you spend some much time continuing to involve yourselves with the league and these chat boards?

Listen, I agree that hte league has many issues that will only be resolved when it can demonstrate it can play all it games. If the league cannot prove this, myself and others who are truly investing in our products will make the decision to showcase our teams elsewhere.

Again it just seems to me to be a huge waste of time with very little basketball being talked about.

Thanks for the commnets and I hope to meet some of you at our games this season.

Dave Clarke

[tbayz1]

Good Luck this season Dave!!

And I like the commercial! Great advertisment

[TheStandard]

David, you will see me during the season that is for sure. I have family in Aliso Viejo so that is not a problem for me to drive 30 minutes from Surf City.

[Chuck the Writer]

Schedule will be on-line this week. We are just waiting for our ticekt company to get all of the info into the ordering system so people can buy ticekts for individual games. Probably Tuesday or Wednesday.

Okay. Just make sure that your schedule actually reflects teams that are in the league and weren't relocated to the 2008-09 season or moved to the PBL or CBA or wherever.

Just my two cents as I do not read this baord a lot but it seems like some people spend an awful lot of time telling everybody how crappy everything is and because the league has had so many issues, it has caused for many of you to be very synical. At some point if you have become this disinchanted with the product, why do you spend some much time continuing to involve yourselves with the league and these chat boards?

I'll take this one. First off, the OSC boards are not controlled by the ABA itself. There used to be a very good yahoo message board that, because it described many of the problems the ABA was having in the 2004-05 season (the "Sally Anthony v. Ashley McIlheinny" year), Joe found a way to shut it down. He's been trying to shut down OSC for months now.

We on this board care about professional basketball. We don't want the ABA to go through another season of mid-year relocated franchises, teams folding, poor attendance, cancellations, etc. We want to know which players are doing well on the stat sheets. We want to be able to name at least four players from any franchise without having to run to their website.

So far, the only positive thing the ABA has provided is that they do a lot of community fundraisers and "working with kids" projects. That being said, everybody from the Boy Scouts to the Jaycees to the Knights of Columbus do the same thing. They don't have to pay $10,000 to Joe Newman to accomplish this.

The CBA and the D-League have their schedules up, and their seasons start two weeks after the ABA is supposed to commence. The one schedule that was posted had more errors in it than a Tampa Bay Devil Rays doubleheader, and was immediately yanked off the net. Several teams have posted their own scheds on their websites, and I've been trying to make sure that every team's game corresponds with their opponent's schedule, and that each team has 36 games, 18 home and 18 away. In other words, Brad Hester's getting paid for me to do his job.

Listen, I agree that hte league has many issues that will only be resolved when it can demonstrate it can play all it games. If the league cannot prove this, myself and others who are truly investing in our products will make the decision to showcase our teams elsewhere.

All right, let's hold you to that. If the ABA cannot play at least 75% of its scheduled contests between the 40+ teams that are part of the ABA on November 1, 2007, will you make a concerted effort to examine the options of joining the D-League, CBA or PBL? Considering that the ABA only played 63% of their scheduled contests last year, I'm looking for at least a 12% increase - which, by the way, looks like a season that will be commenced with 40-42 teams, less than the 50 or so that started the 2006-07 campaign.

Again it just seems to me to be a huge waste of time with very little basketball being talked about.

Have you seen the average ABA front office press release? Such and such city is joining the league. That's not a "basketball" press release, that's a franchise release. Ask the CEO press releases - those aren't "basketball" releases, they're glorified Joe Newman blogs. Such and such team works with kids to stay in school. Again, a public relations press release, not a basketball press release.

When I start seeing releases that tout the ABA's top 10 scorers, or games that broke attendance records, or coaching matchups - those are "basketball" press releases.

Or maybe I should put it this way. Britney Spears probably donates millions of dollars to charity. Should we ignore the fact that she's a borderline Social Services hotline case? Drew Rosenhaus once saved a kid from drowning by performing CPR until the kid was revived. Does that give him a free pass from all the conniving double-dealing agentry he's perpetrated on most major sports?

Thanks for the commnets and I hope to meet some of you at our games this season.

Dave Clarke

We'll see - maybe if the OCG's can do a Northeastern swing after three or four franchises collapse and "fill-in" contests are needed.

[a1sports]

Not another owner on kool-aid? This is amazing. So "the league has some issues"? Which ones concern you? No money, players not getting paid, cancelled games, teams moving mid season, league may lose its ABA license rights? etc etc? I guess your not a business man, based that you havent done your due diligence. Why not call one of the former 50 plus teams that were once in the ABA, or the ones in the CBA now or the ones in the D -league now or the ones in the PBL now?

[The Magician]

Listen, I agree that the league has many issues that will only be resolved when it can demonstrate it can play all it games. If the league cannot prove this, myself and others who are truly investing in our products will make the decision to showcase our teams elsewhere.

Dave Clarke

for California is to start their own Pro Basketball League!

You guys don't need the ABA ...

[chuck43]

Who wrote DClarke's post anyway? Go back and look, I have seen 3rd graders with less grammatical errors. Atrocious!!

Simply another ABA "owner" (all though.... what is it that they own anyway?) who was able to scrap together $10,000 and form a dance team.

[chuck43]

The ABA's failure rate is close to 95%!!!!!!!! Thats 95%!!!!!!!!!!!! A1sports you are absolutely correct, no sound businessman with ANY acumen would invest in a "system" that had a 95% failure rate!!!!! Sweet mother of MOSES!

Can you imagine McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts, Jiffy Lube, Subway, Krispy Kreme, etc., etc., having THAT many failures? The Attorney Generals Office would have them in court.

How Mr. Clarke......HOW.....HOW.....did you come to the conclusion that this was a sound investment??? You owe it to your 14 season ticket holders, sponsors, players and their families on your logic. HOW?

1. Did you run a proforma?
2. Did you run adequate comps on this type of business entity and the rate of success in your area (look at the 50+ failures)?
3. Did you look at the judgements and PENDING lawsuits?
4. The SEC reports?
5. Do you have $500,000 CASH in the bank to ensure that the players, sponsors, venues and travel are covered and receive what they were promised?

WHERE WAS YOUR DUE DILIGENCE???? With a 95% failure rate, how can you take on this venture, ask hard working business people (your sponsors) to put up adequate marketing dollars knowing full well that less than 70% of the games will be played and if so, in front of no more than 17 people? If you had done your due diligence you would not have taken these poor folks money and risked it to finance your season.

A-1 is correct, you either did NO due diligence in which case you are being cavilier with the lives and incomes of your sponsors and players or you just don't care. Which is it? These are questions that should be answered.

[tops804]

Coach, owner, four member's of a dance team???? This is what's wrong with
the ABA....

How about players? opponents? arena? "basketball action"?

Keep in mind, it isn't much family fun if the other teams are not showing up.

Good luck

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

The commercial isn't bad - but is that the OC home court?

Just curious...

[TheStandard]

Question where is Tony Farmer? hmm i remember him :-) Lots of checks out my pocket for him back in 1999. Is he going to arrive from Mexico just in time?

[rams80]

Schedule will be on-line this week. We are just waiting for our ticekt company to get all of the info into the ordering system so people can buy ticekts for individual games. Probably Tuesday or Wednesday.

Just my two cents as I do not read this baord a lot but it seems like some people spend an awful lot of time telling everybody how crappy everything is and because the league has had so many issues, it has caused for many of you to be very synical. At some point if you have become this disinchanted with the product, why do you spend some much time continuing to involve yourselves with the league and these chat boards?

Listen, I agree that hte league has many issues that will only be resolved when it can demonstrate it can play all it games. If the league cannot prove this, myself and others who are truly investing in our products will make the decision to showcase our teams elsewhere.

Again it just seems to me to be a huge waste of time with very little basketball being talked about.

Thanks for the commnets and I hope to meet some of you at our games this season.

Dave Clarke

The word you are looking for is "cynical" and it's posts like these that make me such. You are an owner, representing yourself to the public, and you can't even spell!

I'd be glad to talk basketball here, as the owners would prefer us to do, rather than discuss the HUGE HONKIN' ELEPHANT in the room that is the ABA's slipshod business practices.

Unfortunately, I lack the discretion to not mention the presence of very large mammals in the parlor. So you're out of luck.

[Sam Hill]

Cheerleader.

Who speaks.

Kinda chunky.

[TheStandard]

Cheerleader.

Who speaks.

Kinda chunky.


Kinda Chunky. according to Tom Leykis the father i wish i had lol. That girl is a fat and fugly.

[a1sports]

In theory: Case Number 1

I spend 10 K and get a "franchise".

I promote and promote and get sponsorships of around 100k or more.

I spend almost nothing on team operations

A team doesnt show up for a game.

I cry Foul and rant and rave and disappear........with over 100K in my pocket.

thats just one theoretical case but Im sure there a versions that may have happened. Why do I think this? Lets say I do my due diligence and still go forward with a team....why would I? see case number 1

[Sam Hill]

Kinda Chunky. according to Tom Leykis the father i wish i had lol. That girl is a fat and fugly.

http://home.comcast.net/~speedyturkey/nothitit.jpg

[TheStandard]

Lol

Now That Was Funny

[dbaproball]

http://home.comcast.net/~speedyturkey/nothitit.jpg
i didn't know "Dwight" from "The Office" was into basketball.