Time for Cglue ( Larry)...to answer some questions

[a1sports]

Since you like to dish out the LOVE and HUGS Larry, then you wouldnt mind answering a question or two?

What does Joe tell you about:

1. The Jaloza Judgement?
2. The Capital Growth Law suit?


your an owner...so lets hear it

two easy questions Larry and your answers will tell all of us if you are really with "it" or in some fantasy land. You cant say, wait and see, your a business man..so lets hear some business like responses. No need for hugs just some real down to earth honest answers ( we understand that your only repeating what Joe has told you, so we wont hold it aganist you)

[TheStandard]

Hes only going to say what Joe told him.

He told me the Jalozza case was dismissed but it was not. he only told me what Joe told him.

And Joe can tell anyone anything he wants because it's Joe's world.

[cglue]

Im not about to tell you why I know what I know A1. You wont get any help from me tearing and ripping what I say on here. You have your own sources and so you stand confident behind your sources and watch us fail this year.

Its not going to matter anyway what I say so why ask. I have too much going on for me right now to stay in Joe's ear about this matter, like this upcoming season that everyone think that Im not going to make.

Hell with your money and and my brain(which you may think is jello), we could do alot of good together. But instead you want to try to dig as much dirt as you possibly can for what, hell I dont know.

My question to you is, why did Turner Sports ink this last deal with us while we have all these lawsuits going on. Now seriously thats a good question that I truely want to know. You probably should have started this thread with that question. If you can answer that for me then I will be eternally thankful.

November 10

Are you coming!!!!!!!!!!!!

Houston Takers vs. Corning Bulldogs

[TheStandard]

Larry its not an deal what it is in fact. ABA and Play On which is something Turner Sports does not even promote in their own Networks split the share of the money. Now they have done this for other leagues and what you need to do and find out well like I already did especially with the USL of how much do they generate in sales from this. Which I got the reply very little as the subscription numbers have gone down through time. This also applies to the MLB TV Service that MLB Carries.

Im not bashing it, just letting you know that with this league one cancellation or folding of a team creates a domino effect through the whole league.

I want to see an ABA Schedule on August 15th. Do I think its going to happen?? No maybe September 15th.

When I see teams dropping out or being moved to the 2008-2009 which basically means like in the Case of Alexandria Wind Jammers we will never ever play. It's hard to see anything good in the ABA.

I would be personally embarrassed that people are going to pay for a service and get teams with un professional uniforms. mismatch shorts, socks, shoes, tape on jerseys or the ever so popular Anderson Champions look. How would you feel that you are part of a "professional" league and your opponent is not prepared "professionally"

watch the tv crew show up to a game and theres a cancelled game notice or no notice. it's happened before it will happen again.

[dbaproball]

More interesting here is who funds the production costs. For this to be done with any degree of quality, especially understanding that there will likely be relatively few subscriptions, somebody has to pay for this.

It shouldn't be difficult to get the specifics on how Play On! does business. They have "inked deals" with many organizations, so they don't look overly particular.

Either subscriptions (or web advertising) must pay for the production costs (in which case the deal will evaporate if there are no takers) OR the teams will essentially be paying for the privilege somehow. We then get to the usual questions of the money available to spend by the teams.

What trumps all of this is if Play On! simply hosts self-produced digital game vido uploaded in raw format by the teams. Then it doesn't really cost anyone anything (except Play On! bandwidth and HD space), but the quality of these productions would become instant fodder for this forum and wouldn't likely generate any subscribers or advertisers. The content will have to be strong to survive I believe and have live and synchronized stats, clock, etc.

...just my opinion. Someone who has researched in more detail should post their findings.

[The Magician]

I want to see an ABA Schedule on August 15th. Do I think its going to happen?? No ...

going to be right Standard ...

The ABA schedule will more than likely not be released in 6 days.

The ABA is still actively seeking to add teams for the upcoming 2007-2008 season!

[cglue]

First of all I am my own man and Standard you know this.

What you said in the last post is something that you always felt and I feel you in some cases. But I know this is a step up from what everyone else including yourself has stated about the league in the past.

You guys have stated so many times that you dont hate the ABA, just dont like some of things that we've done in the past. Well listen, this is that step that I been telling you guys for weeks and I just really couldnt say anything.

Understand that I am a man that dont share everything that I know simply because thats the way business should be handled. Not just to tell everything to everybody to validate what we are trying to accomplish or what you are trying to do.

One step at a time guys and this was a good one. We still have interesting news coming soon.

[TheStandard]

Larry that fact of the matter is that me and many others will not pay money to see teams not wearing a right uniform nor a right venue. The ABA is a so called pro league playing in what is not professional team venues. High Schools, D3 Schools, Low D1 schools do not count.

Is a place like the Wigwam in Anderson professional look at its seating.

The Palestra in Philly, Yes

Anything the CBA Has that is professional

but how can I say that a pro team has as its home venue some middle school or a high school that seats a thousand. does not get media exposure and when it does its because the team folded or some fiasco.

Im not going to put up money to see a team with straight out of walmart i just heat pressed these taped numbers on the jerseys and call ourselves a pro team game.

Wait till your game is on the webcast and your opponents players are wearing red shorts, blue shorts, purple shorts and white shorts with some jersey with taped numbers or you faced the same exact team last week and they had full uniforms and this week its a bunch of no talent YMCA players that are fat and sluggish and cant fit in the uni's.

In a professional league all the teams have to be at par. they have to run everything professionally. Not just a few teams and then other teams keep it lesser than rec-league.

[logoguru]

Which logo is Houston going to use? The Carolina Hurricane ripoff or the Jordan ripoff?
________
VAPORIZERS (http://vaporizers.tv/)

[TheStandard]

damn i just noticed that .

[a1sports]

From what I learned today...there are production costs involved in doing a web cast...who is paying ? the league? the team? WHich high school gym has the capabilities to do such a production? Lets not get caried away with Turner and Playon as one and the same.....
Do your homework and you shall learn how web casting works and the costs involved. In my opinion..this will be a disaster..thats only if there is a league by November.

Ill do you a favor Larry. Ill call Corning Community College, I bet they have the ability to do web casting..but for how much? Who pays?

[tbayz1]

Id like to know who is going to pay even to watch the games, how much interest and demand is there to see teams in school gyms, crowds of less than 100, rinky dink owners :confused:

Sure its a good plan if your a good league that is stable and has interest!

[dbaproball]

Id like to know who is going to pay even to watch the games, how much interest and demand is there to see teams in school gyms, crowds of less than 100, rinky dink owners :confused:

Sure its a good plan if your a good league that is stable and has interest!
It can work for college sports (where i think most of Play On's business seems to be from what i can tell) because you have a built in fan base (alumni) who actually will pay to follow their teams, long after they have graduated and moved away. It is hard to see the business case here (at least for the teams) when the venues struggle for attendance across the board in the ABA.

Probably the single biggest benefit, assuming 300 games are covered is that the players may have increased exposure to the Euro leagues, etc. (if the production quality is good.) That could lend a little more legitimacy, though the whole program looks to be mostly a PR move. Again, I'm most curious about who will actually pay for this.

[cglue]

Which logo is Houston going to use? The Carolina Hurricane ripoff or the Jordan ripoff?

Again, you guys never fail me. So any person dunking is MJ right? Well what about your coveted PBL, hmmmmmmmmmm? Or even Shaqs logo, oh but he is hanging on so that doesnt count right? But he is dunking so he has to be in that same catagory though. Hmmmm, how about Kobe logo when he was with Addidas, he is dunking as well.

Again Standard, I agree with you about that which you stated in such detail previously and then I agreed.

And my logo, please dont insult my intelligence man. If you want me to stay around and continue to be open then that s*** has to go. I dont even watch hockey and really dont care for the sport to much. I answered a post and again you guys take it somewhere else and continue to find a negative in all that we do. Im tired of hearing that you guys would like to see us thrive but just have problems with us right now. Just save your words and time on that subject cause you have truly shown your colors.

A1, you of all people dont surprise me, so you continue to do what you do.

Good day guys.

[TheStandard]

Hey Larry,

Where is the team playing this year until the arena is built? Also, are you going to sell your merchandise at games and on the website?

[cglue]

This year im at a high school pavillion and yes we will have our mrchandise at the games and also available on our website soon.

The problem that I had this offseason about the arenas that were available in this area was there policy and procedures. I think I shared this with you before that they want too much from you just facilitate a game. Thats really what pushed me to build my own arena and actually I was at my bankers office today going over the plans and design of the project. One place wanted 1k per game and concession and a piece of the door and I simply just said ooooohhhhhhh heeeeell naaaaaaaaw!!!!!!!!! Thats the reason why I have this franchise, to make money and going that route we would definately fold. It was that kind of response we recieved from alot of places and so the high school pavillion was a no brainer but really cant wait until season. I have all of the door and concession and merchandise as well, you just cant beat that.

[TheStandard]

That is so true. The ideal thing in the sports world.

But unfortunately we all can't get it that way.

I was sitting down doing my research in regards of rent for arenas throughout the BSN and the league rent average which is 16 games along with practicing at the same place on other days is at 30k per season.

The Coliseo De Puerto Rico which is the home of the Santurce Crabbers their rent is of over 70K per season but this team only rolled up over 3.2 million dollars in sales between merchandising and their cross promoting of concerts of world class artists such as Sting, Mana, The Rolling Stones and FIBA Americas Tournaments such as the Marchand Cup. (Owner holds concert rights along with SMG at the arena)

The Lowest Rent goes to the Fajardo Team which is of 25k a season for 20 dates.

Our Rent is Ponce is 40k and we keep 60% of concessions, 70% of tickets (30% of all tickets from all the teams goes back to the BSN and the BSN divides it equally to all teams) Parking is 50%, team merchandise is 100% so rent is covered ASAP.

The only way you make a profit is by selling those seats and in order to survive in any level is by selling.

I know you personally that you know what you're doing. Now get these guys to buy your jerseys . :-)

[cglue]

I dont like be hands on if I put you aover an area in the business but one I do know is merchandising. I use manage Footaction back in the day around 98 and had to dress up the store every week and it was fun but the pay really sucked.

Like I stated before, this is a special season and I cant wait to see what else its going bring in.

At the end of the day, AFL is what we are really shooting for in 2009. If you recall some of the post in the past on this subject I was talking about 7000 seats. We found out to entertain AFL, the minimum is 10k and so thats what we are shooting for.

[Fells]

The thing that will be key to this whole Turner deal is getting the games played, and I mean all of them.

If a team folds, can't make a game for whatever reason, (other than weather of course) or if one of a thousand things goes wrong, there will be trouble. Not only does the league have to ensure the games are played for the sake of Turner, but uniforms have to match, they will need professional announcers doing the games, and the product put out onto the floor will have to be high quality. This is the first chance the league has to expose itself in a positive light. TV coverage is unheard of in the ABA and this is Joe's chance to prove that he can run a legitimate and solid league. If games are randomly cancelled, they will have not only Turner to answer to, but the fans as well.

This has the potential to either benefit the ABA, or it could be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Joe HAS to make sure that every game webcast is played. Obviously, I don't know the terms of the contract, but I imagine there are fines involved if games are not aired. Where the league will benefit financially, and is the only source of income outside of the franchise fees, Joe has to make this work. If he doesn't, then another lawsuit may be added to his growing list.

[Fells]

Again, you guys never fail me. So any person dunking is MJ right? Well what about your coveted PBL, hmmmmmmmmmm? Or even Shaqs logo, oh but he is hanging on so that doesnt count right? But he is dunking so he has to be in that same catagory though. Hmmmm, how about Kobe logo when he was with Addidas, he is dunking as well.

Again Standard, I agree with you about that which you stated in such detail previously and then I agreed.

And my logo, please dont insult my intelligence man. If you want me to stay around and continue to be open then that s*** has to go. I dont even watch hockey and really dont care for the sport to much. I answered a post and again you guys take it somewhere else and continue to find a negative in all that we do. Im tired of hearing that you guys would like to see us thrive but just have problems with us right now. Just save your words and time on that subject cause you have truly shown your colors.

A1, you of all people dont surprise me, so you continue to do what you do.

Good day guys.

Larry, the problem is that you seem to dodge any questions about the state of the league, and you paint a very happy picture of a league that is in serious trouble. The lawsuits are there, the folding teams are there, the countless other issues are there. If you acknowledge even some of them, yours, and the league's credibility increases.

I want the best for the league as there are solid teams that are run well, don't cancel games at the last second, and do well for their communities. And I am not trying to be negative here, but the ABA has SERIOUS PR issues. Aside from the other issues that we don't need to get into as we have discussed them ad nauseum, stats are NEVER updated, standings are not updated, and there are maybe a half dozen teams who send out releases on a regular basis. (Yours is one of them and you get major points for that.) The ABA website is a disaster, which is a problem since in this day and age, people go to a website to get information on a business.

As far as the ABA site and a lack of stats, how are scouts supposed to be able to see whom they want to look at for their team or teams? With the ABA site the way it is now, they can't. Brad has solid plans for teams to send their stats to the league, but the question is how many teams will do so? You will, Vermont, Jacksonville, Halifax, and others will, but it does not paint a complete picture of the league.

There are problems Larry, but there are positives as well. You seem to want to do things the right way and I commend you for that. Take the lead and encourage other teams to do things the right way. It will only benefit your investment, and the league as a whole.

[a1sports]

First, an ABA team did have TV games, Rochester had TV games on local cable. They televised HOME games and in my notes they had over 7,000 fans at one home game that was televised. Of course they are not in the ABA anymore.

In talking to a few web cast companies yesterday they told me this little deal the ABA has going on is full of "costs" and target numbers. IMO this isnt going to fly..
Its a PR stunt, at best someone will video tape a game and place it on the web. I do have a call into playon...so I wil post what they tell me. AGAIN the league is as strong as its weakest team..... IMO if I were an owner, I would be worried about getting a bill from JAloza for using the the ABA logo and worried about the capital Growth law suit, but Im not an owner.

[TheStandard]

The thing that will be key to this whole Turner deal is getting the games played, and I mean all of them.

If a team folds, can't make a game for whatever reason, (other than weather of course) or if one of a thousand things goes wrong, there will be trouble. Not only does the league have to ensure the games are played for the sake of Turner, but uniforms have to match, they will need professional announcers doing the games, and the product put out onto the floor will have to be high quality. This is the first chance the league has to expose itself in a positive light. TV coverage is unheard of in the ABA and this is Joe's chance to prove that he can run a legitimate and solid league. If games are randomly cancelled, they will have not only Turner to answer to, but the fans as well.

This has the potential to either benefit the ABA, or it could be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Joe HAS to make sure that every game webcast is played. Obviously, I don't know the terms of the contract, but I imagine there are fines involved if games are not aired. Where the league will benefit financially, and is the only source of income outside of the franchise fees, Joe has to make this work. If he doesn't, then another lawsuit may be added to his growing list.

Yeah every webcast will be televised for sure all the Vermont games or Texas playing 50 times the same team.

[cglue]

Larry, the problem is that you seem to dodge any questions about the state of the league, and you paint a very happy picture of a league that is in serious trouble. The lawsuits are there, the folding teams are there, the countless other issues are there. If you acknowledge even some of them, yours, and the league's credibility increases.

I want the best for the league as there are solid teams that are run well, don't cancel games at the last second, and do well for their communities. And I am not trying to be negative here, but the ABA has SERIOUS PR issues. Aside from the other issues that we don't need to get into as we have discussed them ad nauseum, stats are NEVER updated, standings are not updated, and there are maybe a half dozen teams who send out releases on a regular basis. (Yours is one of them and you get major points for that.) The ABA website is a disaster, which is a problem since in this day and age, people go to a website to get information on a business.

As far as the ABA site and a lack of stats, how are scouts supposed to be able to see whom they want to look at for their team or teams? With the ABA site the way it is now, they can't. Brad has solid plans for teams to send their stats to the league, but the question is how many teams will do so? You will, Vermont, Jacksonville, Halifax, and others will, but it does not paint a complete picture of the league.

There are problems Larry, but there are positives as well. You seem to want to do things the right way and I commend you for that. Take the lead and encourage other teams to do things the right way. It will only benefit your investment, and the league as a whole.

Fells I don avoid anything and I answer questions the best I can without someone ripping it turning it in some other direction.

Im tired of repeating myself on this issue. I have said many times(please remind him Standards), I am not running away fron the problems within the league. All Im saying that this is a step forward and there are other steps that have to be made and they will be made. But I cant continue to harp on the past, hell lets fix it and get this show on the road.

I am not saying the sun is completely shining right now. But damn, he is peaking his head over the hill a little with this move.

[cglue]

First, an ABA team did have TV games, Rochester had TV games on local cable. They televised HOME games and in my notes they had over 7,000 fans at one home game that was televised. Of course they are not in the ABA anymore.

In talking to a few web cast companies yesterday they told me this little deal the ABA has going on is full of "costs" and target numbers. IMO this isnt going to fly..
Its a PR stunt, at best someone will video tape a game and place it on the web. I do have a call into playon...so I wil post what they tell me. AGAIN the league is as strong as its weakest team..... IMO if I were an owner, I would be worried about getting a bill from JAloza for using the the ABA logo and worried about the capital Growth law suit, but Im not an owner.

Damn, why dont you just call Turner and get it from their mouth what the actuall cost will be. I dont believe in calling other companies concerning this issue because for all we know they could be spitting venom as well because they didnt get the account. You can say what you about this but you have to admit, if everything lines up, you have no job.

[OneBetter]

I dont believe in calling other companies concerning this issue because for all we know they could be spitting venom as well because they didnt get the account.

Right...........because we all know that EVERY webcasting company in North America was drooling and fighting to get the ABA.

[cglue]

Right...........because we all know that EVERY webcasting company in North America was drooling and fighting to get the ABA.

Yep thats normally the case huh? Just like Turner to just tease us like that. LOL

You guys are funny? Just admit this is good move!!!!!!!!!

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Larry -
There will continue to be a large amount of skeptics of the ABA until the league actually does something to change its image as the antithesis of a professional organization.

For example, this is (at least) the third television/media agreement the ABA has announced in its history. Why are the previous companies that affiliated with the ABA no longer involved? What, in this deal, sets it apart as a long-term, positive arrangement from the ones that have been previously attempted?

Part of the issue is that there is scarcely anything left for the ABA to do that it hasn't already given lip service to before in one way or another; media deals, minimum requirements, schedule guarantees, promotions, statistical record-keeping, even a newsletter have been bandied about for years at ready to take place, only to wind up as empty words and broken promises.

Larry, since you were around last year and back this season...
without asking you to get into any specifics, has the ABA put in place any new measures that address/eliminate the myriad of issues that have followed it like a shadow each season? Has there been definitive changes made to ensure that all games will be played, that all teams will travel (with financial ramifications if they don't), that the All-Star evenst and post-season have allready been planned (and not seemingly cobbled together on the back of a napkin two weeks before the end of the season), that something with the impact of a 'Power Poll' has been revamped to have real, measurable ratings and not merely done on a whim...

In short Larry, has the ABA (Joe, Disck, Brad, your division, your other opponents, Chichester - everyone affiliated with the league) made the changes from last season to this that give you unequivocal confidence that the problems that have plagued the ABA throughout its 7 year history have been addressed and eliminated, allowing you to state with all confidence that this year will be the year the league finally meets and exceeds the requirements to truly call itself a professional league?

[Sam Hill]

For example, this is (at least) the third television/media agreement the ABA has announced in its history.

Not to mention the ones they said they were going to announce, but never did.

[one way]

Larry, I will say it. If everything is done smoothly and corectly and without mishaps, this is a good move for the ABA. Sadly, past history has shown differently. Good luck and p.s. nice schedule. This is a jigsaw puzzle with two many pieces.

[cglue]

Larry, I will say it. If everything is done smoothly and corectly and without mishaps, this is a good move for the ABA. Sadly, past history has shown differently. Good luck and p.s. nice schedule. This is a jigsaw puzzle with two many pieces.

Thats exactly what I have been saying. We will have to see if everything pans out and I believe it will.

Now have we addressed evreything, not all issues, but the ones that can get us on track. Like making all the games, making sure that you have a full staff in place rather than a high school girl only taking the hame team stats(I been there). This is a special season and and the next thing on the agenda is to form the owners commitee and that will really fine tune and weed out the irresponsible owners once and for all.

[The Magician]

It's a PR stunt ...

Remember reading the ABA SEC Filings & Reports?

The ABA is all about misdirection!

Misdirection. What the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Thats exactly what I have been saying. We will have to see if everything pans out and I believe it will.

Now have we addressed evreything, not all issues, but the ones that can get us on track. Like making all the games, making sure that you have a full staff in place rather than a high school girl only taking the hame team stats(I been there). This is a special season and and the next thing on the agenda is to form the owners commitee and that will really fine tune and weed out the irresponsible owners once and for all.

What changes were put in place from last year?

Also:
the next thing on the agenda is to form the owners commitee and that will really fine tune and weed out the irresponsible owners once and for all.
Shouldn't something like this have been done months ago, or at least prior to the schedule being created? How will you 'weed out the irresponsible owners' AND complete a full schedule?

[cglue]

Sorry but I cant disclose that right now until we finally vote on some issues that we discussed in April. But when the time is right, trust me I will give you guys the scoop on everything.

Big day is August and hope you all will check us out this year on the web.

November 10

Houston Takers vs. Corning Bulldogs

Will you be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[robster2001]

Your faith in the ABA is admirable. Really. It's good that you believe in your business and your league.

I wonder what'll happen when you realize your faith is misplaced... when games have been cancelled on less than 24-hours notice... when a different team shows up for your home games than is on the schedule... when you're rerouted hundreds of miles for a road game at the last minute... when you visit teams that believe if "you open the doors, they'll come" (leaving them a "crowd" of 50 friends and family)... all I'm saying, I guess, is that when (not if) you realize that the ABA is not the best place for your investment, I hope you'll come back and be as open and honest with us as you've been this off-season.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Sorry but I cant disclose that right now until we finally vote on some issues that we discussed in April. But when the time is right, trust me I will give you guys the scoop on everything.

Ok, but...

he 'left' the board:
http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/showthread.php?t=7816

Guess we won't get the 'scoop' after all...

And not to belabor, but why are they 'finally' voting on issues that will directly affect the upcoming season, after the schedule has been completed (well, completed in the ABA sense of the word)?? DOes this league ever plan ahead on anything? Do they even buy green bananas, or just wait until they are turning brown and past ripe?

[cglue]

Ok, but...

he 'left' the board:
http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/showthread.php?t=7816

Guess we won't get the 'scoop' after all...

And not to belabor, but why are they 'finally' voting on issues that will directly affect the upcoming season, after the schedule has been completed (well, completed in the ABA sense of the word)?? DOes this league ever plan ahead on anything? Do they even buy green bananas, or just wait until they are turning brown and past ripe?

Just saying my final good byes but havent left yet. After vet camp next week, training camp will begin and then the offseason will be over. But I will peak my head on here time to time and give you updates. You are thinking too much on the voting, let time heal and allow it to manifest. Nothing can be changed over night, for it will change with time and wisdom.

One Love guys be safe and enjoy the season.

November 10

Will you be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cglue]

Your faith in the ABA is admirable. Really. It's good that you believe in your business and your league.

I wonder what'll happen when you realize your faith is misplaced... when games have been cancelled on less than 24-hours notice... when a different team shows up for your home games than is on the schedule... when you're rerouted hundreds of miles for a road game at the last minute... when you visit teams that believe if "you open the doors, they'll come" (leaving them a "crowd" of 50 friends and family)... all I'm saying, I guess, is that when (not if) you realize that the ABA is not the best place for your investment, I hope you'll come back and be as open and honest with us as you've been this off-season.

I been there and done that and yes it is frustrating, but to give up now means what. I am a man with patience but really looking forward to the turn around this season and believe it will take place. Just sit back and watch. Remind yourself again that I have been to places to cover teams and Im looking for a change for the fans sake and our sake.

[Fells]

I been there and done that and yes it is frustrating, but to give up now means what. I am a man with patience but really looking forward to the turn around this season and believe it will take place. Just sit back and watch. Remind yourself again that I have been to places to cover teams and Im looking for a change for the fans sake and our sake.

Larry,

As much as I give you a hard time, I do admire your devotion to the league and to your team. I just wish other owners had that same passion and would be willing to talk about the league like you have.

All the best,

[cglue]

Larry,

As much as I give you a hard time, I do admire your devotion to the league and to your team. I just wish other owners had that same passion and would be willing to talk about the league like you have.

All the best,

Thanks Fells, that means alot.

This is my second season and I just dont believe in leaving something that has major potential if the right people are aboard. Joe has given me chance and yesterday I got a awesome email concerning my team and Im thankful for the oppurtunity. I treat this the same way I do my friends. I dont kick you while you are down but do what I can to help pick you up and get you going again. I really believe in the league and really believe you will see a major change this year, but time will tell.

November 10

Will you be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!