ABA06er exposed as Corning Bulldogs' James Schutz

[preeths]

Those who have not seen some of the last couple of days' threads should know that ABA06er has been exposed as Corning Bulldogs' co-owner James R. Schutz of Geneva, NY. Identical IP addresses, a matching home city and identical misspellings on the same day finally gave him away. I believe that a review of his posts will show that he deliberately tried to harm the Rochester RazorSharks organization and knowingly posted misinformation about the ABA.

On another note, I would like to personally apologize to A1Sports. Mr. Schutz claimed that A1 lied about some Bulldogs camp attendees several weeks ago and sent me a camp roster to prove his point. I don't know what happened at the camp, but I believe Mr. Schutz is not a reliable source for truthful information.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

But was he posting months ago as 'Corning Tax Payer' as well?

The CornDogs first outspoken fan on OSC, who continually ripped the quality of the Vermont franchise before a game had been played (very observant, BTW. :rolleyes:

[preeths]

We have reason to believe he may have also posted as 'Corning Tax Payer.'

[TheStandard]

I Bet It Is

[a1sports]

IMO I believe that Chichester is involved with that name...too many details that were posted on 06er threads were only known by Tom or Joe.....

[tbayz1]

06er was formerly CTP

Whether it was James or his so called "neighbor" CTP was the first username under this ordeal but then CTP stopped posting and 06er emerged

James has the up most respect for Vermont and recognizes that they are the best ran team in this league and obviously CTP didnt, so could there be someone else like a "neighbor" or was it only James, idk, but there is an affiliation between CTP and 06er

But for a fact, James was apart of this long mess with ABA06er

[TheStandard]

look the guy got exposed and thats the truth.

[rider]

It will be very interesting to see if any of the postings suggesting he had credibility are accurate, he seemed to be very naive and I now doubt about his finacial ability.Hopefully I'm wrong! I don't think they'll make it to Christmas!

[a1sports]

yes they will play Quebec 9 times and Cape Cod 9 times and Strong ISland 9 times and Newark 9 times....( newark(Jersey) will play only if Joe gives her money)

A good organization doesnt let 2 players play for free like Vermont did last year....shameful

[dbaproball]

yes they will play Quebec 9 times and Cape Cod 9 times and Strong ISland 9 times and Newark 9 times....( newark(Jersey) will play only if Joe gives her money)

A good organization doesnt let 2 players play for free like Vermont did last year....shameful
....well...no ABA lover here, but i am sure that vermont would prefer to have a more diverse schedule. i'm not sure a couple of unpaid guys on the roster = shameful....this is minor league basketball after all, but each to his own.

i cannot figure out why vermont would stay in the aba....cba, pbl, d league....something....maybe it's not fair, but the guilt by association seem too much to overcome, especially for a high profile owner who already has an inherent conflict of interest that he wouldn't seem to want to draw further attention to.

[BreakersFan]

It will be very interesting to see if any of the postings suggesting he had credibility are accurate, he seemed to be very naive and I now doubt about his finacial ability.Hopefully I'm wrong! I don't think they'll make it to Christmas!

Supposedly the Bulldogs are charging $5000 for sponsorships, which is more than the ECHL Jackals. BTW, the Bulldogs also open their season on Nov. 10, when most of Corning will be at HS football play-offs (Corning East is the defending state champ) or at the Jackals home game at First Arena (the Jackals get about 3600 fans per game, 1/3 of which come from Corning area).

I just don't see them ever getting more than a hundred fans or so (me being one of them while they are still playing).

[TheStandard]

50 fans tops.

[Sam Hill]

Now figure out who notfunny is.

[Fells]

Now figure out who notfunny is.

Working on it........

[tbayz1]

Ive had disputes with "notfunny" I think actually the day he joined, not a fan of him, he really got ticked at me when I said that Philly team wont play more than like 3 games, he wanted to bet with me and like challenged me lol

He told me in a PM before he started posting, that hes been reading the boards and cant take any more of the constant ABA bashing and didnt think 06er deserved to be banned, and thats when he started posting and praising the ABA

Also, theres still "aba_insider" to figure out...

James told me he has nothing to do with "notfunny" and "aba_insider", only CTP and 06er

[TheStandard]

The Corning Bulldogs need to either change their name to this:

Corning Liars

Corning Bull____

Corning Corona's

Corning 06er's

Corning Railroaders

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Of course, this might start a real witch hunt mentality, with pro-ABA members saying that the mods and board are out to 'expose' only those who are not among the anti-Joe group.

They will come back with "Who is Sam Hill, bomp, A1 Sports, ABA RWB, etc." (although I have said more than once who I am).

Just saying it might start another type of flame war...

[one way]

I remember when Corning started posting, everybody thought how great he was because he was so up front with answering questions concerning his team. Corning is a joke. ABA teams are not proberly researched or funded therefore they are jokes. How does CGLUE feel about one of his travel partners joining the CBA? Joe will just take another credit card payment and put in another team. I will say it again- why do people get involved with this nonsense?

[TheStandard]

I remember when Corning started posting, everybody thought how great he was because he was so up front with answering questions concerning his team. Corning is a joke. ABA teams are not proberly researched or funded therefore they are jokes. How does CGLUE feel about one of his travel partners joining the CBA? Joe will just take another credit card payment and put in another team. I will say it again- why do people get involved with this nonsense?


because a fool always wants to attain cheap glory

[Corning Bulldogs]

Was I ABA06er ? No

Did I know who he was for a few months now ? Yes

DID all of you posters get what you deserved ? Most of you

You have gone so far anti-aba that you went on a whitch hunt and pin pointed names of a people on a whim with no fact just to smere the ABA because you couldnt handle the fact that someone was not on your side.

When A1sports spread lies about my camp did Preeths "expose him" hand out his real identity (which he knows)? no he did not.

This forum is a big joke , Paul is a big joke and you all got played by a kid.

End of story , im signing off for good............

[preeths]

For the record, I do not know A1's identity, and I'm not going to take the word of a proven liar about what happened at the camp.

Thanks for exposing your true self at long last. You have my email address and my phone number and could have contacted me directly if you had any case to make that you haven't been posting as ABA06er. You don't have a case because you have been doing just that. The evidence is overwhelming. Now go run and hide like we all knew you would. That's what the guilty always do. You should be ashamed right now, not defiant. I only hope you learn from your mistakes.

[TheStandard]

Was I ABA06er ? No

Did I know who he was for a few months now ? Yes

DID all of you posters get what you deserved ? Most of you

You have gone so far anti-aba that you went on a whitch hunt and pin pointed names of a people on a whim with no fact just to smere the ABA because you couldnt handle the fact that someone was not on your side.

When A1sports spread lies about my camp did Preeths "expose him" hand out his real identity (which he knows)? no he did not.

This forum is a big joke , Paul is a big joke and you all got played by a kid.

End of story , im signing off for good............

Im laughing all the way. Let me see. You got exposed, second of, your bio is another lie. Don't let me get started. (I have so many college coaches phone numbers that High School Scouting Report honchos have to call me or my mentor to get them, since they change numbers like its underwear) You blame it on the kid when the only kid I see is you. You were childish the entire time and now that YOU GOT CAUGHT You want to blame others for your faults. Same old ABA jibberish. Go blame the Easter Bunny now. People that commit crimes always blame others. I hope the Razorsharks bankrupt you for your lies.

I am going to put this in the clear right now. I know the true identity of A1 Sports. How do I know? I did my research and he has revealed himself to me and others and what he says is truth (he wants you to do your homework and you will find out for yourself what he says really means). This is a man that has a ton of connections in the basketball world. And if you ever ever ever get to find out who he is your jaw will drop. And no hes not from the CBA or the PBL nor the NBA. The ones with stroke are never involved in a league they are always the ones in the outside of things.

James you have lost all respect from not only us but from many in pro basketball. No one goes out to railroad others. You did and where i'm from when you try to railroad someone the only one that will be tied to the tracks in front of a running train at the end will be you and that has just happen and you just got run over, the way you deserve it.

Farewell or like my friends in Speculator, New York tell me. Don't let the Deer take your head off.

[Paul S]

I'm gonna miss ABA06er. I must admit I thought it was Tom Chichester and not Corning.

THis whole thing is the ABA in a microcosm though.

Step 1 Present something to be different than what it is.
Step 2 Keep up the facade
Step 3 Promote yourself
Step 4 Fire back at any and all critics with venom
Step 5 Dream up other scenarios involving competitors and a conspiracy
Step 06er When found out simply blame someone else. Anyone else. Sure blame the kid next door who mows your lawn.


That whole kid next door who mows lawns by day and posts about the inner workings of a basketball league by night thing is so far fetched it could only be dreamed up by someone within the ABA.

Guy probably lives on the fifth floor and doesn't even have a lawn.

So sais I.

[preeths]

So sais I.

Paul, you stole the line I was going to use!

Anyone else notice James' change in tone in under 12 hours? He went from blaming a neighbor kid and claiming he knew nothing about the hijinks this morning to his 'so long, suckers' message of a few posts ago. Thanks for removing anyone else's doubts, James. You've embarrassed yourself, you've embarrassed the Corning Bulldogs, and you've even managed to embarrass the ABA.

[TheStandard]

The twerp will return again. In some shape or form. But the trash will always be trash

[cglue]

Was I ABA06er ? No

Did I know who he was for a few months now ? Yes

DID all of you posters get what you deserved ? Most of you

You have gone so far anti-aba that you went on a whitch hunt and pin pointed names of a people on a whim with no fact just to smere the ABA because you couldnt handle the fact that someone was not on your side.

When A1sports spread lies about my camp did Preeths "expose him" hand out his real identity (which he knows)? no he did not.

This forum is a big joke , Paul is a big joke and you all got played by a kid.

End of story , im signing off for good............



I dont know the true story behind all of this drama but the kid has a point and that is that you guys are worried more about who we are as owners and wondering if we are hiding behind names and some of the main ones on here that lie just as much arent exposed. Im sorry but I dont care who you are on here just tell the truth. Hell if this was a lie, he is not the only one on here that lied so the ABA could look bad. We dont need any help in that area, we have enough problems on our own to try to handle and straighten out.

I believe him about his camp and this shouldnt at all say he is a bad kid. If you gave A1 a chance after a chance after a chance then stop judging this kid and move on. I wish the Razorsharks would try to sue over this BS on this message board because if that is the case then most of you are wide open for a law suit as well for your lies and slander.

After being banned for some days, everyone excepted A1 with open arms as if nothing had happened. But if this kid would come back, I wonder how many of you would do the same, I doubt if any. I talked to Standards a few hours ago and I told him that it doesnt matter how I support the ABA, let one something happen to me and all of a sudden I am a demon in hell with no legs. This place is too hypocritical and that needs to change. I can take your criticizm but some of you need to change your thinking towards people like myself.

I appreciate your kind words at times and thank you for your respect but lets think twice about judging one another.

November 10

Houston Takers vs. Corning Bulldogs

[preeths]

I dont know the true story behind all of this drama but the kid has a point and that is that you guys are worried more about who we are as owners and wondering if we are hiding behind names and some of the main ones on here that lie just as much arent exposed. Im sorry but I dont care who you are on here just tell the truth. Hell if this was a lie, he is not the only one on here that lied so the ABA could look bad. We dont need any help in that area, we have enough problems on our own to try to handle and straighten out.

I don't think too many people, if any, had a problem with James posting as 'Corning Bulldogs.' When he posted under his real name, no one took issue with him because he presented himself fairly professionally most of the time, not as over-the-top shill ABA06er was. Is it a big deal he's an ABA team owner? You bet it is.

I believe him about his camp and this shouldnt at all say he is a bad kid. If you gave A1 a chance after a chance after a chance then stop judging this kid and move on. I wish the Razorsharks would try to sue over this BS on this message board because if that is the case then most of you are wide open for a law suit as well for your lies and slander.

Problem is, to my knowledge A1 hasn't lied, nor have most of the people who use the boards. After this incident, I cannot trust James' word about the camp. What appeared to be the only known blemish on A1's record is now unproven. If James would confess and say he's sorry, I think most will move on.

Oh, having an opinion does not equal slander. Just because you don't agree with a statement doesn't mean its actionable. On the other hand, I think it's pretty easy to see that James tried to harm the RazorSharks with half-truths and outright lies. That intent is very important.

After being banned for some days, everyone excepted A1 with open arms as if nothing had happened. But if this kid would come back, I wonder how many of you would do the same, I doubt if any. I talked to Standards a few hours ago and I told him that it doesnt matter how I support the ABA, let one something happen to me and all of a sudden I am a demon in hell with no legs. This place is too hypocritical and that needs to change. I can take your criticizm but some of you need to change your thinking towards people like myself.

Not sure how, after we've exposed an ABA owner as a liar and a charlatan, you're attempting to spin this as us being unfair. Some were very critical of A1, you and James included as well as others. I banned him for several days, for heavens sake. I might suggest that your overall view of the ABA does not mesh with the reality of the ABA, at least not up until this point. That's why you find the criticism to be unfounded. Unfortunately, it isn't. The ABA, season in and season out, has earned the criticism.

I appreciate your kind words at times and thank you for your respect but lets think twice about judging one another.

Guilty is guilty. Let's have an apology. Confession is good for the soul. I haven't heard James ask for forgiveness from anyone he's lyed to.

[TheStandard]

Larry,

Last night I told you that if you do things right you are praised, but there are ways to do things right and I will never ever say that someone should just go out there and slander and try to railroad the competition.

You told me last night about other things that have led to a team to leave the ABA because of another team in the ABA through their words made them say ok im going to the next league. And I go around and verify and it was right. So that team that made the other team leave through their words is wrong.

But back to the agenda, James of the Corning Bulldogs was absolutely wrong in doing this. His blame to a fictional child is wrong. His attacks to another team in the competition is wrong. Do you the see the NBA Bashing a Euroleague team. Do I see a BSN Team bashing an D-League team no. These teams and leagues work and hand in hand.

Maccabi Tel Aviv signed Marcus Fizer while he was with the Arecibo Captains. Maccabi Tel Aviv paid the Captains the transfer fee and told them you do know that since he is now ours he can't no longer play for you, BUT. We honor his current contract with your team and we are partners through FIBA with you and Marcus can end his season with you and help you towards your goal which was the finals. What do the Captains do? They are now working with Maccabi Tel Aviv in a basketball talent exchange program. Israeli talent comes to PR to train and PR talent goes to Israel to train.

The two teams never bashed each other, they worked along with each other and something great came out of it.



Would I go and bash the Rochester Razorsharks? NO, why? Because as a real business man I know that some day or even right now I may need the services of one of their members or even of the owner.

I do my thing he does his thing. Im not around to SHUT Down another team through libel and slander. This is free competition. He who does the best wins and to me. I rather lose to the competitor when none of us are bashing each other and lets the people choose the best product out there.

There is no excuse for what he did and then him not apologizing and then bashing the board and everyone again is a true form of admitting that it WAS HIM and Him only.

He's not a man nor a boy just a simpleton and that is a fact.

[TheStandard]

And also for the owners stop bashing other teams and even your own teams and get working towards real goals. Get your venues packed like it should be.

Heres a good example. Game 7 of the BSN Finals on August 1st. 18,834 oh and not free. PAID.

http://www.basketboricua.com/galerias_2007/Final_Camp_2007/NBA10487.jpg

[bectond]

There is no excuse for what he did and then him not apologizing and then bashing the board and everyone again is a true form of admitting that it WAS HIM and Him only.

He's not a man nor a boy just a simpleton and that is a fact.

You guys are making a big deal out of nothing. All dude did was troll. Every message board has them, I knew he was CTP, 06, One Better and inside stuff months ago.
There were only two pro ABA guys posting he had three user names and not funny had two. 6 user names for two owners. Why are you guys so outraged. A1 post under different user names as well and nobody is tracking his IP address.

[TheStandard]

ITS A BIG DEAL . YOU DO NOT SLANDER AND LIBEL A TEAM NOR THE COMPETITION. It will hamper others along the way.

[preeths]

You guys are making a big deal out of nothing. All dude did was troll. Every message board has them, I knew he was CTP, 06, One Better and inside stuff months ago.
There were only two pro ABA guys posting he had three user names and not funny had two. 6 user names for two owners. Why are you guys so outraged. A1 post under different user names as well and nobody is tracking his IP address.

This isn't about A1 or any other poster, this is about James Schutz. James Schutz, the co-owner of the ABA's Corning Bulldogs was a troll on this message board and deliberately tried to harm the Rochester RazorSharks through a campaign of lies and misinformation. You may take that as a matter of course, I do not.

If you know of another poster who is spreading lies or misinformation through another user name, PM me and I will look into it. Don't use the supposition that it is happening elsewhere to excuse James' behavior.

[bectond]

Don't use the supposition that it is happening elsewhere to excuse James' behavior.

I don't really care what a guys user name is, I know who I'm arguing with.
The last couple of days A1 and me were on the PBL board going back and forth about that leaque. I don't give a rats behind what his real name is, but I knew it was him. As for CTP he is doing the same thing all Newmanist do. They are try to discredit each other. Are you going to tell me A1 is not attempting to promote the PBL and discredit the ABA?

All Newmanist follow Newman, they all practice the same principles. When ex-no.2 moved to the CBA and started talking about going global, mergering with British league or starting CBA Mexico, I understand why he is doing that. When the NightyNights own goes on ESPN and says his team can compete with NBA teams and he'd come out on the short end if he switched rosters, I understood where he was coming from. When the Rochester own states that he is starting a new game that will be the best minor league in 80 years, I understand where he is coming from. When Crazyglue states he is building an arena, I understand where he is coming from. They all graduated from the school of Newman, and Newman's era was the 50s or 60s were information did not travel as quickly, they were taught that the biggest lies get the biggest headlines and that the general public are nothing but a bunch of fools. All these Newmanist are morons, nobody with any sense would believe any of them. How are you guys going to single out one moron and praise the others.

If he (06er) had any sense he would not be an ABA owner. Those robots have been trained to lie. I repeat, those guys lie on each and every press release. They can't stop lying.
Now understanding that, i'm supposed to be out raged? I could care less if he outted the Razorsharks F them

[a1sports]

First I have NOT been on the PBL thread...nice try to associate me with another name.
Second, I cant say anything yet about PBL...there not up and running.
Third, NO need to try to discredit the ABA, they do a fine job on there own. I like to bring things to everyones attention. To become AWARE !

You sound like you have some connection to 06er..... lol.

[Corning Bulldogs]

I just wanted to thank some of the posters who have shown some support as of late.

Also wanted to clear some things up. The main reason I joined the ABA was because of the Rochester Razorsharks and the unique style of play the ABA has. Rochester leaving the ABA was not the end of the world by anymeans but then they went on a slander spree bashing the ABA from every angle possible not taking into consideration that they were not the only member of the ABA that was wrong of them. When they chose to bash the ABA out in the public they chose to bash all of the members who still belonged to the ABA.

Now I read in the paper yesterday that the Rochester owner said that the PBL is going to be the first good minor league basketball league in over 80 years. Again no consideration, this time it was a shot at the other leagues out in public.

When Rochester slips up it is taboo to even think of mentioning it in this forum but yet the Rochester owner has been very public in his bashing.


Rochester managment has contacted me and we have agreed not to "piss in public" which is what I prefer.


Let's get back to basketball. Good Luck to the PBL, CBA, IBL, NBDL, ABA and anyone else who I may have forgot.

[a1sports]

Reviewing the posts for the past year....NO WHERE can it be found that Rochester was bashing the ABA. What names do you have that show association with Rochester? You dont. Again you make stuff up. Does the ABA need to be bashed? Are you kidding? As another poster said..you are trapped in the ABA and instead of building your product you tried to destroy others,,shameful. Really, take the time and think before you post....Most of us here have files of posts for the past two years and we can verify very quickly.

No apology yet from you. Maybe Ill do you a favor and contact Rochester for you and let them see what you wrote, then when an attorney contacts you, you may feel like apologizing.

You should have got on OSC and apologized and moved on,,but you felt like taking another shot, which is a lie again.....prove that Rochester management was on here bashing the ABA as you say. Again the mouth runneth before the brain worketh

[panchess]

Dr. Hrywnak's goal: "To be the first really successful basketball minor league in 80 years." The quote is in Bob Matthews's well-respected column in the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle.

I'm a CBA fan, but I don't see anything wrong with that quote. I don't think Chuck the Writer would either. The CBA has survived and provided a lot of entertainment for a lot of people, but truly successful? Only in certain periods of time.

If the PBL, D-League or CBA could become as successful as the AHL, that would be success.

[preeths]

I'll say that the few times I have talked with them, members of the RazorSharks management have reserved comment on the ABA as a whole, even when questioned about it. They haven't bashed the league to me, but that's really beside the point. As individuals, the Rochester management can hold whatever opinions they want about the ABA. They can even convey those opinions to others. If they chose to do so, some could, hypothetically, construe their opinions as bashing. There isn't anything wrong with that.

What they're not allowed to do is to make up stories in order to interfere with someone else's life or business, James. That's where you can get yourself into trouble, no matter what screen name you choose to hide behind.

[a1sports]

Again, wrong Corning,. I called Rochester. The guy you spoke to.. Steve. Called you and told you to stop your posts which were false. Again twisting the truth? He did also say how you were screaming on the phone and hung up on him calling him back later. A simple phone call and I get answers.

Then I listened to the tape of the PBL founder and Rochester owner....NO time at all during the interview did he bash the ABA. wrong again Corning. The sports reporter during the interview did talk about the ABA and not in any kind words. The Rochester owner didnt bite.
He did say he was trying to make minor league basketball in the USA better than it has been in 80 years, and he said, He will give it his best try.
I see nothing wrong with that comment. So enough....understand that in todays age things can be verified awfully fast. So again....enough !! Move on!

[preeths]

At least James is admitting he's been the one badmouthing Rochester, not only on this board but to the Democrat and Chronicle as well. Maybe that's progress.

[one way]

I thought that you said that you were not going to post anymore. Now you are posting again. hey, don't go away mad, just go away

[preeths]

The twerp will return again. In some shape or form.

You win the prize for fastest prediction to come true.

[Corning Bulldogs]

It never stops on this board.

I never said they bashed the ABA on this board, they did it right out in public in the newspapers and on tv and in doing so was bashing the members who still existed in the ABA.

I was not ABA06er and because I know who he is does not make me him so I have nothing to apologize for.

And if I wanted I could go to my lawyer and track down A1Sports for slander about my camps and for making up names that never even existed, I still dont know why you lied about that. So when it comes to slander I would worry about yourself more then anything else because at each one of my camps I had over 30 eye witnesses to discredit everything you lied about.

Goes to show as long as you are against the ABA this forum will support you.


I just came on here to thank some of the posters for the support and I think I have said my piece so I do not need to stick around anymore.

[tbayz1]

anyone notice we have a new member named, "ABA06err"

LOL

[preeths]

I just came on here to thank some of the posters for the support and I think I have said my piece so I do not need to stick around anymore.

Another promise to go away? We'll see how long this one lasts. You were caught red-handed, period. You heaped lies on top of different stories and weren't even consistent in your denials. Your persecution complex doesn't help your case.

[one way]

here is a new idea for you. Unstead of posting on the message boards, why don't you sell some tickets, or sponsorships, or mini plans to keep your team afloat. That is the best thing for you to do to support the ABA, therefore you will not fold by Christmas and the rest of your division will not have to revamp their schedules. No dollars, no professional venues, no leadership, no sense. I said it when you first posted and I got ripped by others because you were allegidly up front and honest but I will say it again. You should have taken the expansion dollars that you gave to Joe and given them to the Peace Corp or World Hunger or cancer research- they would have been better spent.

[preeths]

No dollars, no professional venues, no leadership, no sense. I said it when you first posted and I got ripped by others because you were allegidly up front and honest but I will say it again. You should have taken the expansion dollars that you gave to Joe and given them to the Peace Corp or World Hunger or cancer research- they would have been better spent.

<sarcasm> You mean some users stood up for an ABA owner? Unthinkable!</sarcasm>

[Corning Bulldogs]

Preeths ,

Keep playing with fire. I was never caught red-handed or exposed as ABA06er , that is slander. All you have caught is the same IP Adress and I have admitted to knowing who ABA06er is.

My lawyer has spoken with the actual ABA06er who is willing to testify if need be to prove the slander route you have chosen to take.

On the other hand being caught red-handed would be when you have over 30 eye witnesses to go against A1Sports in a slander case on the lies he told about 3 players who never existed at my camp and for all I know may not even exist period. Do I need to go to court with 30 signatures of eye witnesses before a Judge with my lawyer to supenea your records to track down the real identity of A1Sports who is the only one who has been "caught red-handed"

This is your last warning, next call will be from my lawyer.

[preeths]

Do what you need to do. I have all the evidence I need. BTW, would this be the same neighbor kid who you didn't know about and fired from mowing your lawn, or the one you did know about and whose activity you sanctioned? I'm unclear from your two different denials yesterday. How do they get so much time off from school? I guess we could just ask them both to spell the word "says," a spelling that gave you a problem recently both as 'Corning Bulldogs' and 'ABA06er.'

Time to grow up, James.

[TheStandard]

James your acting like a little bi____.

Remember young man you can pay off anyone to lie about what you have been caught in regards of. I know you will its just in your soul. Liars are all the same when they get caught they get mad blame others and then they start spewing even more steam at the ones that caught him. A form of admitting guilt.

Go get your lawyer since it does show that you are going to sue others for your lies. grow up be a man. and not some 10 minute garbage time juco player has been that has sour grapes about teams and of people that have uncovered you.

[preeths]

James, which one of these lies would you like to address first? Here are your two posts from yesterday:

True. Except it was not a guy at all, it was a neighborhood kid who I thought was genuine in learning about my team and the ABA. I let him use my swimming pool in exchange for mowing the lawn and let him ride snowmobiles in exchange for taking care of snow. We were all duped.

Apparently what ever him and hid buddies could do to get a rise out of people they did it, this was entertainment to them or as they put it "a big joke"

Either way ABA06er is dead and starting next week I am back to cutting my own grass.

Feel free to call my fiance if you do not believe me because I barley have time to sleep between a full time job and running this team. I was duped just as you all were duped and that is that.

Was I ABA06er ? No

Did I know who he was for a few months now ? Yes

DID all of you posters get what you deserved ? Most of you

You have gone so far anti-aba that you went on a whitch hunt and pin pointed names of a people on a whim with no fact just to smere the ABA because you couldnt handle the fact that someone was not on your side.

When A1sports spread lies about my camp did Preeths "expose him" hand out his real identity (which he knows)? no he did not.

This forum is a big joke , Paul is a big joke and you all got played by a kid.

End of story , im signing off for good............

So, were you duped or did you know for several months? You said both. Helps to get your story straight before you start spinning.

[TheStandard]

I think its time to call the Corning and Geneva Chamber of Commerce and also let the media know how you are just another person that goes around spreading lies to kill off a team so you can be the money maker.

Oh and if you have so much damn cash. How about fixing that bummy team page of yours!

[Corning Bulldogs]

I need to grow up ?

You run a website forum on OSC which for years has aloud posters to post personal bashes against managment from the ABA even members of family who had nothing to do with running the ABA. Standing by and letting such nonsense go on makes you a child.

As we know you run this site to make a living and would it be safe to assume that the more website visitor records you have to show the more sponsors you can pick up to place adds on the site.

Who stands the most to gain by letting illegal and immoral bashing take place inorder to draw large numbers of people onto OSC ?

Who is it that lets anti-aba posters post what ever they want fact or fiction about any team that they want.

Anyone who is pro-aba who comes up with facts well they get rail-roaded off or as in the case of ABA Insider who I still do not know who that was you banned him for doing nothing more then supporting the ABA and you can not say that the anti-aba posters have done worse then him.

[OneBetter]

You guys are making a big deal out of nothing. All dude did was troll. Every message board has them, I knew he was CTP, 06, One Better and inside stuff months ago.
There were only two pro ABA guys posting he had three user names and not funny had two. 6 user names for two owners. Why are you guys so outraged. A1 post under different user names as well and nobody is tracking his IP address.

I am not James, aka CorningBulldog and never have been. Don't drag me in to this. Do your little IP search. I have nothing to hide and am in no way associated with anyone in the ABA.

[preeths]

Actually, I didn't ban him. Chris did, and I agree it was deserved. I have all his old posts, and they were far outside the bounds. As you know more than anyone else, we're loathe to ban anyone unless they repeatedly violate board rules and show no signs of changing. We banned ABA06er, what, half a dozen times, only to let him back each time, hoping he would change. As for others, I repeat I cannot and do not read every post. I simply do not have the time. That's one of the reasons I have other mods like Chris to help me out. If a user sees a violation of board rules, they need to contact the mods, and it will be addressed appropriately.

James, you're not even making a consistent argument anymore. You're down to claiming persecution. That may play with some of the most ardent ABA supporters, but most realize you should just apologize, learn from the mistake and move on with life. This is no way for the owner of a professional team to act. The record of what went on is right on this board for everyone to examine for themselves. Even your claim that someone else was doing the posting, apparently from your home with your knowledge, makes you complicit in the postings, anyway. You've already admitted to the meat of the claims. Don't make it worse than it is.

[TheStandard]

He gets mad because we talking about the truth about the plethora of teams that have failed in the ABA of how its leader is the most incompetent leader in professional sports history(Isiah Thomas has nothing compared to Joe)

To the list of liars and nobodies like you who have tried to slander teams and leagues. To the ones that have stolen money from players, sponsors and families.

To the ones that had their Hummer in Montreal and was repossessed by the creditor (car was bought and financed in Montreal) because not only could they not afford the car payment they couldn't pay their players and then ran away with the money from sponsorship to support two other failed teams.

To the ones that say we will play at X arena and the arena says we don't even know of them.

To the ones that listen to Joe's lies about everything he says. To the ones that don't know how to manage a team not even in Playstation 3.

Ok go and defend their stupidity.

The good of the ABA is now in the CBA, PBL, IBL and the D-League. Leagues with real arenas and venues not Juco's, High Schools and Middle Schools? Whats next an ABA Team that decides to play games at the gym of Rockland Psychiatric and Mental Hospital???

How will you defend your lies and your stupidity that is called James, James?

We have always given credit to who deserves it.

Stop being Sybil (go look that up) because thats how you are acting like. Grow up be a man and admit to your wrong doing. You wont because you wont admit. Either way the respect is out the door.

Worry about yourself, because it will be a long road and hell for the life of a liar. Ask Bill Corona. Stop denying the truth because you are just crying wolf.


You comeback for what? So we can pin you with a scarlet letter? He will always come back in some shape or form immature people never change so the constant will be the same

[OneBetter]

Actually, I didn't ban him. Chris did, and I agree it was deserved. I have all his old posts, and they were far outside the bounds. As you know more than anyone else, we're loathe to ban anyone unless they repeatedly violate board rules and show no signs of changing. We banned ABA06er, what, half a dozen times, only to let him back each time, hoping he would change. As for others, I repeat I cannot and do not read every post. I simply do not have the time. That's one of the reasons I have other mods like Chris to help me out. If a user sees a violation of board rules, they need to contact the mods, and it will be addressed appropriately.

James, you're not even making a consistent argument anymore. You're down to claiming persecution. That may play with some of the most ardent ABA supporters, but most realize you should just apologize, learn from the mistake and move on with life. This is no way for the owner of a professional team to act. The record of what went on is right on this board for everyone to examine for themselves. Even your claim that someone else was doing the posting, apparently from your home with your knowledge, makes you complicit in the postings, anyway. You've already admitted to the meat of the claims. Don't make it worse than it is.

James, you played with fire and it came back and bit you. You killed your team before it ever got a chance to play a game, although that has become a common theme in the ABA, so don't feel too bad.

You have a lot to learn before you ever attempt a resurrection in the minor league sports world. Name calling, bashing, and then trying to cover it up with horrendously false logic is extremely childish.

[robster2001]

This is your last warning, next call will be from my lawyer.

Tread carefully on that threat.

New York courts don't take well to SLAPPs, last I heard. Besides, you don't have clean hands.

Or did the neighbor kid type that threat?

[Paul S]

James- I'll be honest with you. 100 percent honest. I come on this board more than the other minor league boards for one reason. Its the crazyiness that happens in this league. Its the off court things.

Here is a real admission. I'm not even much of a basketball fan. I love rugby, I like soccer, cycling, hockey and football, I enjoy baseball on occasion and will watch b-ball. I watch the NBA game 7's, the NBA finals, March Madness and the occasional Cape Cod Frenzy game.

So why do I come on here? Its the business that this league runs, not the sports that are on the court. To a certain extent there is schadenfreud involved in this league and this board.

Heres my best and only advice to you. You sound like a good guy, you came across like a quality owner. Build on that. If you are ABA06er there is no harm in saying "I was sick and tired of the constant attacks and I came up with ABA06er as a counter balance". If you were not ABA06er then continue to deny you are the same person. I'll be honest with you, I don't know if the same IP address means you are absolutely the same guy on the same computer or if you simply are posting from the same geographic region.

I wish Corning Bulldogs success. I really think having a sledge against the Razorsharks was a dumb idea but what is done is done. Its not my board and I'm not a mod. That being said I thought you added something positive to the overall OSC ABA forum. I hope you stick around. You are right, most people on here are hidden. I mean nobody knows (or frankly cares) if Paul S is my real name, until I say "______ is a crooked franchise and they cheated me" or something equally slanderous.

[cglue]

Ok the bottom line is this, the kid is right Preeths whether you want to believe it or not. It is ABA bashing at its best and I stated before that we dont need any help with that but yet its still being done.

I tell you guys whats childish, still going on about this madness. Im like the other guy, hell who cares.

I mean A1 came on here a few days ago and said that I was lying about building my arena and all said is man you are funny or something like that. I dont need to prove anything to you guys, hell you gonna believe what you wanna believe. I talk to Standards on a regular and I even shared with him how Im funding my arena and even shared with him that if he wanted to do the same he could. Thats the kind of person I am.

Then I come home from church last night and see Im being compared to the Dallas PBL team because I have a cork in my mouth, now thats childish to me. And agian, what does that have to do with basketball or the ABA, nothing. But the reason he can post BS like that is because thats what you guys like and you feel its not harmless because its not about you, but that disturbs me.

Never forget what Richard Pryor said one time, "Give a guy a rope and he will try to be a cowboy, tell him to go 3 inches he will go 6."

Like I stated before, its not like we need help but I will say that I have been told many times that I have sipped the "Jim Jones Classic" just because I have a backbone, thats offensive but I dont trip. Im a God fearing man and I believe in hanging in there to make things better and not leaving the situation because it looks a little hard at times.

November 10
Houston Takers vs. Corning Bulldogs

[preeths]

Larry, even if that is your opinion, none of that excuses James' behavior, and that's what we're talking about here. I hope you're not agreeing with the strategy that in order to even out the criticism, it's okay to make up a screen name, and use lies and misinformation to attack people and organizations, such as the RazorSharks. If you don't, then this is just deflection.

If you perceive that a statement on the boards is untrue, you are once again invited to PM the mods. Once again, I cannot read every post, nor do I. Once again, if you have a problem, I don't know unless you tell me. This invitation has been issued to several others as well. Don't like the fact that several posters are critical of the ABA? Then change the ABA's history.

[cglue]

Larry, even if that is your opinion, none of that excuses James' behavior, and that's what we're talking about here. I hope you're not agreeing with the strategy that in order to even out the criticism, it's okay to make up a screen name, and use lies and misinformation to attack people and organizations, such as the RazorSharks. If you don't, then this is just deflection.

Again, I dont know fully about that drama and I dont care to know. Someone made a statement about there is no ABA bashing and I simply disagreed. I said we dont need any help in that area but there is some bashing going on in these message boards and threads.

If you perceive that a statement on the boards is untrue, you are once again invited to PM the mods. Once again, I cannot read every post, nor do I. Once again, if you have a problem, I don't know unless you tell me. This invitation has been issued to several others as well. Don't like the fact that several posters are critical of the ABA? Then change the ABA's history.


I dont care about untrue threads or posts to report them to you and thats why I havent bothered you with them. Some post shouldnt have to be reported to you anyway cause anything A1 posts I know at least 75% of the time you may read because like you stated so many times before that his posts are pretty much on point.

Im sorry, my time machine is being repaired right now so the ABA history will have to wait. But what I can do is start now and make a strong push for a better future, just give us new bloods time.

Will you be at the game November 10, 2007, now that sounds like a good thread but someone will probably spoil it and say that I may not make the game or I dont have enough to money for the trip.

[preeths]

If you "don't care," then don't complain. Posts do have to be reported or the mods may never see them. I see you caught my point about ABA history. Just because it can't be repaired, don't expect it to be excused. That's where the criticism comes from. Turn the ABA around first, then see if the criticism subsides.

[The Magician]

Turn the ABA around first, then see if the criticism subsides.

That should be the sole purpose and motto of the NEW ABA CEO!

Turn around the ABA ... and then you will start to gain some CREDIBILITY.

[TheStandard]

plain and simple this comes down to ethics and morals. James doesn't have one iota of it because he will scapegoat on someone fictional and gets caught up in that lie.

Larry aka CGLUE in the other hand has ethics and morals and I know what hes doing with the arena. I'm doing the same to benefit the local kids in my hometown in Puerto Rico with the same plan Larry has. It is totally legit.

Change has to be made in the top but as long as king spin is around it wont happen.

[cglue]

If you "don't care," then don't complain. Posts do have to be reported or the mods may never see them. I see you caught my point about ABA history. Just because it can't be repaired, don't expect it to be excused. That's where the criticism comes from. Turn the ABA around first, then see if the criticism subsides.

Again, I dont care nor am I complaining. I ask you this cause I know you read the post. What the hell do me having a cork in mouth have anything to do with BASKETBALL? Come on Preeths!!!!!!! Thats simple!!!!!!!!

Again, someone made a statement saying that there is no bashing and all I simply did was disagree.

[one way]

Granted, corks do not have anything to do with basketball. But I would think that an owner of a basketball team would not be pictured with a cork in his mouth. Frankly, it make makes you look like a moron. I am not saying you are one, but it can be though of others. Also, my space for web sites is considered second rate. The problem with the ABA and respectability is that the ABA will allow anyone to join the party. If you have no levels of obligation (proper funds to run a respectable program) then you never have respectablity. ABA has no money. Second rate

[preeths]

Again, I dont care nor am I complaining. I ask you this cause I know you read the post. What the hell do me having a cork in mouth have anything to do with BASKETBALL? Come on Preeths!!!!!!! Thats simple!!!!!!!!

Again, someone made a statement saying that there is no bashing and all I simply did was disagree.

Larry, you did complain! Look back at your posts, man. I don't know what you expect to have happen, that everyone on the board will magically turn around and embrace the ABA overnight? Other than that, the only way to turn around opinions is for the league to do things right this year.

I do not read every post. I can't put it any more simply than that. If you don't want to do anything about posts you consider untrue, then it shouldn't be important enough for you to complain about. Either that, or you can't find any that you can prove are untrue. I suspect its the latter.

[cglue]

Man please, you tell that to someone else. This is not the place to discuss whats true and also would it be a place discuss intimate dealings from my end. To some capacity, if something was majorly wrong then like Ive done in the past, I would comment on it.

Look like a moron, please Im celebrating but you didnt say I look like one though. Yeah. Thats my thing, thats what I do when Im having fun, thats what I do other than smoke a cigar cause I was trying to quit. Thats my therapy and it worked, Im cigar free.

The myspace issue is interesting. If you checked out abalive.com maybe 6 weeks ago you would find out that we do have a website and just figure now in the offseason we would redirect it and try something different. Whatever works right, yeah. Myspace is free and its your choice to use it as a marketing tool and thats what I choose to use. Oh by the way, how do you like the page, I picked the music and think I did pretty good.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

The myspace issue is interesting. If you checked out abalive.com maybe 6 weeks ago you would find out that we do have a website and just figure now in the offseason we would redirect it and try something different. Whatever works right, yeah. Myspace is free and its your choice to use it as a marketing tool and thats what I choose to use. Oh by the way, how do you like the page, I picked the music and think I did pretty good.

Larry -
Link to the MySpace page, but don't rely on it. Let's say there are fans in your area who see something about the Takers, and are interested if getting more info. When they click to MySpace, what info can they really get?

There should be a definitive website for a person to link to for more info. MySpace trends toward an informal presentation; again, good as a supplemental vehicle, not so good as your primary contact to the general public.

As for the page itself, maybe it's me, but I find some of the note hard to read (the red lettering of the postings is tough to see over the Takers' logo). Also, not to harp on you as the grammar police, but you may want to have the page proofread to fix some of the errors ("a part" is two words, and "shceduled" is spelled wrong).

I like the idea of outside the box marketing, and it is obvious you have a strong passion and desire to succceed. Just offering some constructive suggestions...

[cglue]

Thanks and I will check on that today.

As someone on the outside, to communicate is alot easier in myspace than a regular website. And then when you join as a friend, you can get alot of updates on the team along with other information. Its new look and hell, over 200 million people in your network.

[TheStandard]

My view of my space= Goldigging girls after your pennies. Myspace is a place for dudes to get laid.

Do you see the Lakers going into an all myspace page??? Heck no.

[TheStandard]

Teams that deem themselves professional have team pages like a www.laclippers.com . Myspace pages is just a cheap way to go. Now the Dallas Mavericks have a real page and a myspace page, but the myspace page is their fans site just where people just add themselves in and then comment on "how hot Dirk is".

Heck all you have to do is open up a leaguelineup.com page and then buy a domain from yahoo.com and directly link it to the leaguelineup.com site. There you have it! and thats the cheap legit way.

Not a myspace page where theres a stripper on your top 8 to top 40 :-)

[Sam Hill]

Having a myspace page = the way of the world these days

Having only a myspace page = lazy

Being a sockpuppet = lame

Is the guy really 25? And acting up on message boards? Then, yes, he's a child.

[cglue]

Well call me lazy then, we have had alot of hits and people interested in the team from going to myspace.

Agian, we do have an account but we just choose to redirect it to myspace right now. Now Standard if thats your take on myspace to get laid then it may be wise for you to stay off, but its cool, but we are not after that crowd.

LOL

Its my team remember, and if I feel that it is effective then thats whatsup. I dont give a flip what the Lakers are doing or the Clippers. So you guys can spin this all you (something that you accuse Joe of doing) but the bottom line is all I see is a good marketing tool.

Standard, I guess this is a subject we agree to disagree, its no problem and Im cool with that.

[TheStandard]

Larry,

Joe spins everything more than my 26 inch spinners on my El Dorado.

Second theres not a guy I know so far that has a myspace page and gets more butts than a public bathroom.

There are NBA teams such as the mavericks that do have a myspace page but for fans and haters but their main page is their main site and thats where you can find all the info that is needed in regards of the team.

Movies do the same. They put up a myspace page get some people to become buddies but it tells you go to www.whatevermovieitis.com to go see the info on the flick.

Myspace is a way to lure people to your main site. Gotta make it the bait. And where you hook em you have the main page for the roster, the stats, the team, tickets, merchandise. I'm all about that green. Talking about that green i'm working on a new ownership group it's time to really fix things and go after what its been not around my house for a visit since 2004. The BSN Golden Ball. Sick and tired of seeing these other playboys holding it :-)

[TheStandard]

Oh and can we close this topic already we already know James is a liar can we move on to other things?

[Fells]

Oh and can we close this topic already we already know James is a liar can we move on to other things?

Good call.........