PBL CEO vs. ABA CEO

[a1sports]

The truth slowly comes out now...it shows that Doyle knows what he is doing and would have done it for the ABA,,, but JOJO had to be in control of everything especially the checkbook

Doyle: 1. Secures National Sponsors
2. Profit sharing among the teams
3. A health plan for the teams
4. Gets A VP of operations that has 20 years minor league experience
5. Makes a presence at the Sporting goods convention in Vegas
6. National try-outs at 25.00 dollars ( not 125.00 )
7. Gets an experienced REF as chief Ref
Looks like more to come..........

the proof is in actions not daily press releases.

[tbayz1]

Doyle FTMFW!!!!!

The ABA might have actually could have been something with Doyle at CEO!

[Fells]

The truth slowly comes out now...it shows that Doyle knows what he is doing and would have done it for the ABA,,, but JOJO had to be in control of everything especially the checkbook

Doyle: 1. Secures National Sponsors
2. Profit sharing among the teams
3. A health plan for the teams
4. Gets A VP of operations that has 20 years minor league experience
5. Makes a presence at the Sporting goods convention in Vegas
6. National try-outs at 25.00 dollars ( not 125.00 )
7. Gets an experienced REF as chief Ref
Looks like more to come..........

the proof is in actions not daily press releases.

A1, I know you are not a fan of the league as a whole, but I have been talking quite a bit to Brad Hester and he has ideas that could really change the league. Brad has the initiative, the creativity, and the desire to make what has been a miserable league something decent.

The problem of course is that Joe needs to let go of the reins and allow Brad to do his job. My feeling is that if Joe listens to Brad and doesn't just give his ideas lip service, the league has potential and some upside. If Joe continues to be Joe and be authoritarian, the league dies in two years at the outside.

I am a huge critic of the league, but when there is progress, I will be one of the first to point it out. With Joe's track record, I am not holding my breath, but there is at least some hope.

Just about time to do PA for the Lake Monsters........

[tbayz1]

From what I hear, Brad IS getting more power this season, and maybe soon could be the CEO in the future

I agree with Fells about Brad, he wants to turn the league around IMO

[a1sports]

Brad may have all the visions he wants...JoJo gets him a check...he will do what JOJO says....so far I have also heard in 12 months what Ideas Brad has...NONE have been implemented and none will unless JOJO says SO.

In the business world you have to be your own man...Brad isnt as evident by him siding with JOJO and the others for a 12:01 am stock holders vote to oust Salley and Doyle. He didnt have to but he did because JOJO told him to. end of story.

thus its all lip service.

Reality is nothing will change

[TheStandard]

Brad is the head but who controls the head is the neck and thats joe so if joe tells puppet talk all you want i will do the opposite he will. and dick tinkham is the brain

[The Magician]

I agree with Fells about Brad, he wants to turn the league around IMO


Turning the league around is important ... and the best way to gain some credibility for the VP of Team Operations is to get those DIVISIONS ANNOUNCED and that SCHEDULE OUT!

[skippy]

Actually, the best way for this league to gain credibility is to announce nothing at this point.

And continue to announce nothing until it is 100 percent sure who is playing this year. {I'm not even going to pass judgement on why you wouldn't know who is playing yet this year!}

Even at that point, it may not have much credibility as anyone who has suffered through an ABA game against the "Last Minute Exhibitions" could tell you.

[The Magician]

Actually, the best way for this league to gain credibility is to announce nothing at this point.

And continue to announce nothing until it is 100 percent sure who is playing this year.

Basically, that's what I meant, when commenting about getting those "DIVISIONS ANNOUNCED and that SCHEDULE OUT!"

It's time to get it right, from the get-go ... but I'd like to see sooner than later.

If a team is not geared up for the season at this stage ... they will not be ready by the time the season bounces around. Too many "quiet" teams listed on the ABA Current Teams List!

[Corning Bulldogs]

Im with Fells on this one.

Like Fells I have also been in contact with Brad and he has implemented new ideas to improve the ABA as a whole and requirements for teams with actual timed deadlines, dont meet them then you dont play ball.

Seems to me like Brad has been given a lot of room this year to get things cleaned up.

Brad is still rather young and this will be Brads league soon enough, which is why I believe he is getting more power and more say as to what goes on.

With Brad Hester at the helm the future of the ABA is bright.

[a1sports]

Lets take a quick peek at the CBA, PBL, and NBDL. Those involved from the top down in running the leagues have sports business management backrounds. Those involved have years of experience in different levels of a sports business.

Yet in the ABA its the former asst manager at Lowes Building supply that is learning on the job and has "ideas" and will soon take over.... You know thats not going to happen. Nothing aganist him, hes a nice guy but one I would never have as running a business.
Brads ok? but Doyle wasnt? If you look at the ABA teams that left...each was a smart business owner, Maryland, Rochester, Willmington, Minnesota, etc etc. They saw this doesnt work and left, Its obvious if you have a business mind this model doesnt work and those involved have no idea how to make it work.

Rationalizing is bad for business...remember that

[Corning Bulldogs]

Isnt Doyle a lawyer ? What was his sports managment background before he got involved with owning a team in the ABA ?

Brad came in with business managment experience and he is a genuine good guy and everyone who has talked to him (including Fells a respected poster/sports reporter) has liked what the guy has to say.

I think Doyle has a lot of energy and knows what he is doing and at the same time I know that Brad has the ideas to make the ABA a great league and hes already implementing some of them for this season to get things cleaned up sooner rather then later.

I believe you have just gone so far anti-aba that you will never except the change for the better in the ABA when it happens.

It appears you feel you have been personally burned by the ABA in the past and maybe you have good reason to feel the way you do, but dont take that out on Brad Hester because anyone who has talked to the man this off-season will tell you that any league would be lucky to have him on board.



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[preeths]

First, don't expect anyone to embrace change until we actually see it. The ABA long ago forfeited the benefit of the doubt. Having said that, I agree with Fells and others who say that if Mr. Hester's ideas are implemented, it would be a tremendous step forward for the ABA. The more authority he is given, the better off the league will be.

[Corning Bulldogs]

Preeths I agree with you.

Brad has people excited for new ideas to better the league , now lets just sit back and see how it goes evaluate everything as it happens.

Just bothers me a little that a poster would try to chop down Brad Hester when clearly he is the best thing going in the ABA.


Corning Bulldogs

[preeths]

Preeths I agree with you.

Brad has people excited for new ideas to better the league , now lets just sit back and see how it goes evaluate everything as it happens.

Just bothers me a little that a poster would try to chop down Brad Hester when clearly he is the best thing going in the ABA.


Corning Bulldogs

Agreed, regardless of what someone thinks about the ABA, not everyone associated with it should be thrown under the bus. There are some good people in the league trying to do their best.

[Paul S]

Thats great. I mean this Brad fellow sounds like a first class guy. Problem is that Joe Newman is still running this show.

The only thing he has said in recent memory is.......

The PBL is bad
People are poaching his best teams
No new teams are to be announced from this point going forward
The Philadelphia Sounds are announced.

You can have a great airplane, great airport, wonderful gate attendants, nice stewardess's, comfy seats and a smooth runway. If the pilot is gonna leave the gate, tell the people to prepare for takeoff, rev the engines and start gunning down the runway and then right before liftoff suddenly stops the plane to let another underfunded passenger on board, it disrupts everyone and everything.

[TheStandard]

Plain and simple 7 years of lies, teams dropping out, joe throwing good owners under the bus and many other things. The league lost credibility then and will need to become a heaven of league to gain it back.

Brad may have ideas and ideas are only ideas if they are FULLY IMPLEMENTED. I've seen so many "ideas" from the ABA that have always fallen through. So I'm not going to hold my breath over a league that says one thing and when they say those things they are never ever concrete.