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Twenty9
06-19-2004, 12:42 PM
Koyotes eyeing second APFL title, move forward in '05

By Rick Peterson
The Capital-Journal

Warren Seitz wants his Kansas Koyotes to do their job on the field over the last two games of the 2004 season, beginning with tonight's 7:05 regular-season finale against the Missouri Minutemen.

Then Seitz and his team will sit back and depend on Koyotes owner Ralph Adams to get the team a better -- or at least a more stable -- league situation for 2005.

The Koyotes rolled to the American Professional Football League championship in '03 and are huge favorites to capture another crown this season. The 7-0 Koyotes have already wrapped up the regular-season title and need only to win one playoff game on July 10, probably a second straight meeting with the Minutemen, to win title No. 2.

But while the mounting wins are nice -- Seitz's team has yet to be challenged -- the Koyotes eye a more competitive situation next season.

Warren SeitzThe fledgling APFL has been reduced to three bona fide members (Missouri and Iowa are the other teams) and two opponents, Wisconsin and Colorado, cancelled trips to Topeka at the last minute. After tonight, six of the Koyotes' eight regular-season games will have been played against either Missouri or Iowa.
Seitz is hopeful that either the APFL can get on more solid footing over the offseason or that the Koyotes can move up a rung or two on the indoor football ladder.

"I'm very open to both of those options and I think that's what everybody wants, the players included," Seitz said. "They want to play tougher people because it's hard for them to continue to get up for the same guys three or four times a year. That's just human nature, it's nothing unique about this team at all."

Seitz would also prefer a schedule next season that doesn't include extended down time.

"We've had some trouble with the two-week layoffs," he said. "It's a long time during the season for guys to get out of shape and then try to get back in shape because a lot of them don't work out too much when they're not down here."

Seitz would be happy for his team to stay in the APFL, providing the league takes some steps forward.

"I think it would be better if teams that got into the league were located a little bit closer to Topeka so the transportation problems weren't as much of an issue," Seitz said. "I think that's what the issue's been both for La Crosse (Wis.) and Colorado.

"And I can't blame those people. I would hate to try to get something together that was kind of unorganized and get some guys on a bus and go to La Crosse, too. That's just a long ways to go for one game."

On the field, Seitz is very happy with the status quo heading into the final two games of the year.

"I think we're really playing well," he said. "Last week the offense scored every time it had the ball, so it's tough to get better than that. And, overall, throughout the year the defense has really been good. Coach (Dennis) Caryl's got some good schemes, we've got guys getting to the ball and they're only giving up 12, 13 points a game. In an indoor game you can't really ask for more than that.

"As long as we continue to practice hard and come out ready to play and continue to do the things we're doing, we'll be OK."

Bill
06-19-2004, 02:51 PM
I see this as only a good thing..

And as said a thousand times before..

Let's hope for a substantially better APFL in 2005 or a change in leagues for the Koyotes..

By the same token.. the NIFL had better hope for a better 2005 also..

And maybe the AF2 can add more than it loses..

Time will tell..

Take Care

Football Chick
06-19-2004, 05:09 PM
Ralph has already said he's planning on getting more games for the Koyotes next season. He doesn't like the layoff as much as Seitz and the players seem to dislike it as well.

BTW, I call this years APFL season a successful one, but that's my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion as well.

Houston Caldwell
06-19-2004, 09:19 PM
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD OF THE APFL.DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A WEBSITE ADDRESS FOR THIS LEAGUE ?IF ANYONE KNOWS THE WEBSITE ADDRESS,YOU CAN EITHER POST A REPLY HERE OR E-MAIL IT TO ME AT pking34@comcast.net.

Football Chick
06-19-2004, 10:06 PM
The APFL as a whole doesn't have a website, but the Koyotes do. http://www.koyotefootball.com

BTW, we beat Missouri tonight 50something to 12. I was told that there was a 6 point difference between Missouri and Iowa for second place. So knowing that, and that Iowa scored 25 on us last week, one would assume then that Missouri would have had to score 19 points or more to make it to the championship (25-6=19). They failed to do that so I'm also assuming that we will play Iowa on July 10th for the APFL Championship.

Tater
06-20-2004, 12:53 AM
Actually, 49-12. I am not sure of the situation for the Championship game. Could be interesting on Monday though when all of the numbers are sorted to see who plays the Koyotes for the trophy.

Twenty9
06-20-2004, 05:54 AM
So....they are adding up how many points each that Missouri and Iowa scored against the Koyotes to decided who will get to play in the championship game? What's the point? The Koyotes have already played and beaten both teams three times each and have won by a combined score of 357-112. (170-66 vs. Missouri and 187-46 vs. Iowa) So, I ask again...What's the point? I guess Ralph feels he has to have a championship game to try and legitimize this APFL sham as a league to the unsuspecting fan?

I can't wait to see those "Back-To-Back APFL Championship" t-shirts! :roll:

Ralph, it's time to take a crap or get off the pot!

AF2 or Bust! Bring on Wichita, Tulsa and OKC!

Football Chick
06-20-2004, 09:53 AM
Sorry Tater, I was thinking we scored another TD after the score was 49. My fault.

As for those who like to take their jabs at the APFL, If you don't have anything nice to say, then get the heck out of the thread. Ralph has done a great job this year organizing and keeping this league together. I'd rather he build the league up slowly and not add 5-6 teams at a time just to have teams, and then watch them fail. The NIFL had their share of problems this year and I personally wouldn't want to be a part of that league.

Bill
06-20-2004, 12:12 PM
#1 - AF2 or bust? IMO AF2 isn't a good fit for Topeka... I think it would be great for a Stealth - Koyotes battle... But between the $$$$ and AF2 arena specs I just don't think it will work.. But then I have been wrong.. many times before..

And as far as a successful season.. We really only added Iowa giving us a grand total of 3 teams.. And 3 teams is where we were at last year... So it was basically a trade of Iowa for St. Joe.. Texas is where? Pretending to be the Waco Marshals of the NIFL and getting blown out down there too..
Colorado and Wisconsin.. MIA.. Nothing more than names on a web page..

And requesting people to stay off of "our" thread if they have negative things to say... Uh..

We have to remember as APFL fans we are the "guests" on this board.. I was "attacked by message" on the NIFL board for mentioning the APFL.. And of course their reasoning was "APFL fans take over the board".. Which is ridiculous of course.. But by the same token we can't take a possessive attitude about any of our threads here..The powers that be here on OSC let us have our time to discuss the APFL.. And while I fully agree with their stance towards the APFL and them "letting us be"... They very easily could have bowed to pressure from other posters and asked us to post in a more appropriate forum... Like a semi-pro board..

Anyway... I am still an APFL fan.. But the term "successful" season isn't the one I would have used.. It didn't look much different from 2003..

spider
06-20-2004, 04:01 PM
Hey if things work out in Salina, let the 'Crows in . It would be a natural for the APFL for 2005. If nothing else, it would make a good 4 team bus league. Afterall, it would a lot better than three teams.

Football Chick
06-20-2004, 07:13 PM
And as far as a successful season.. We really only added Iowa giving us a grand total of 3 teams.. And 3 teams is where we were at last year... So it was basically a trade of Iowa for St. Joe..

Actually we ended last year with 2 teams. St. Joe went defunct and Iowa is a strong team.

And requesting people to stay off of "our" thread if they have negative things to say... Uh..

We have to remember as APFL fans we are the "guests" on this board.. I was "attacked by message" on the NIFL board for mentioning the APFL.. And of course their reasoning was "APFL fans take over the board".. Which is ridiculous of course.. But by the same token we can't take a possessive attitude about any of our threads here..The powers that be here on OSC let us have our time to discuss the APFL.. And while I fully agree with their stance towards the APFL and them "letting us be"... They very easily could have bowed to pressure from other posters and asked us to post in a more appropriate forum... Like a semi-pro board..

I said, if you can't say anything nice, then you may as well stay out of the thread. I don't go into other people's threads and talk bad about them. My mom always taught me that if you can't say anythign nice, then don't say anything at all. Everyone is a "guest" on this board. Otherwise it wouldn't be a message board! As for APFL people taking over the board, I don't see many other people posting over here, so at least there are APFL people to post!

Anyway... I am still an APFL fan.. But the term "successful" season isn't the one I would have used.. It didn't look much different from 2003..

I haven't quite decided if you are a true APFL fan or not. One minute you say you back them, but then you don't seem to back them at all. As I also mentioned in an earlier post, everyone has a right to their opinion, and my opinion (and other APFL fans I've spoken with) is that this year was a successful season.

Bill
06-20-2004, 11:30 PM
Well Football Chick...

As far as other people here posting I sure can't argue with you there.. :D

I don't know where everyone went... Its as if when the loudmouths.. (Football Man etc.) had to actually register for people to listen to their rants.. They went away..

As far as being an APFL fan... I am a fan of every team in Kansas and metro areas including Kansas (IE Kansas City).. Whether its my beloved Kansas City Chiefs or the Kansas Cagerz of the USBL.. College is the same way..

If and when you hear a hint of doubt or negativity towards the APFL..
It is only frustration and wanting the Koyotes to be successful in a forum they belong.. And when the detractors and those who dog on the league come forward... I really don't have anything to come back with... It'll be better next year is getting old... Course.. As I have posted previously.. All the leagues would like a better 2005... NIFL especially...

Happy Topeka has a hockey team again..
I just don't want the Koyotes to go the way of the Knights, Scarecrows, or the Sizzlers.. Or the Owls for that matter..