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ABA06er
06-19-2007, 10:02 AM
All The Pbl Has Done Is Taken Aba Teams From Aba Markets Who Had Poor Attendence And Revenue.....

Increased Travel Costs By 300% On These Teams

Has Done Nothing To Prove That The Attendence Will Increase Or Even Draw The Poor Numbers Again Of Last Year.


On Top Of All That Mess , The Top Players Who Were Projected To Play In The Pbl Are Leaving For Over Seas.

Investors , Did Rochester Fail To Tell You That The Pbl Season Plays Right Through The Prime Overseas Seasons Where Players Make A Living ????


Geez And To Think Rochester And The Pbl Would Keep All Of This Info From Potential Investors ...


Shame On You Pbl , Shame On You !

bdaly
06-19-2007, 10:26 AM
It's sad when propaganda is your only defense. Try citing some sources. You've been incorrect so many times that everyone knows not to take you seriously. Getting nervous since the PBL is beginning to hit a critical mass of teams? "Shame on you" for positing this sort of garbage, though. ;)

ABA06er
06-19-2007, 10:43 AM
its all facts


example : Willmington Sea Dawgs averaged only 300 fans per game , same team new league with a 300% travel expense increase ....


no new fans just tripple the costs , hahahahaha

PBL - you STINK !

zeke41
06-19-2007, 10:48 AM
The Sea Dogs had 2-3 tmes more than that when I saw them play! That's a FACT!!!!! Plus, they actually had a mascot, a DJ, and let's not forget several NCAA D. 1 players on the roster. In fact, I think all of their players were NCAA D.1! And....wait for it.......... they don't play in a high school gym, either!

bdaly
06-19-2007, 10:55 AM
no new fans just tripple the costs , hahahahaha
Another huge hole in your logic. The ABA's issues are known very well in sports circles. Consequently, it impacts the coverage and attendance. The fact the ABA was portrayed as a joke in Rochester certainly hurt the Razorsharks' ability to grow. When the league the Razorsharks play in makes the paper's top ten list of things that need to be improved in Rochester at the end of 2006, it really tells you something. The ABA's issues put a ceiling on your growth. The proof is in all of the strong teams that bailed on the ABA to go to the D-League, CBA, and PBL; not many teams that draw good numbers of fans stick around for very long.

Fells
06-19-2007, 11:48 AM
All The Pbl Has Done Is Taken Aba Teams From Aba Markets Who Had Poor Attendence And Revenue.....

Increased Travel Costs By 300% On These Teams

Has Done Nothing To Prove That The Attendence Will Increase Or Even Draw The Poor Numbers Again Of Last Year.


On Top Of All That Mess , The Top Players Who Were Projected To Play In The Pbl Are Leaving For Over Seas.

Investors , Did Rochester Fail To Tell You That The Pbl Season Plays Right Through The Prime Overseas Seasons Where Players Make A Living ????


Geez And To Think Rochester And The Pbl Would Keep All Of This Info From Potential Investors ...


Shame On You Pbl , Shame On You !

Ok Tommy C, I think we have had enough of this.

DazedAndAmused
06-19-2007, 12:36 PM
Wilmington Sea Dawgs averaged 800+ per game, with a couple of near sell outs in their 2000 seat community arena.

Lowest attendance for a single game reorted of around 350.

Team sources will tell you lowest attendance numbers were attributed to confusion over when games were to be played due to teams folding or not showing up. More than 1/2 of the originally scheduled games did not happen because of other team issues.

Their second round playoff game (when Mississippi came to Wilmington) wasn't scheduled until the day before it was played. This resulted in the lowest attendance of the year.

When they could actually market a game/opposing team, attendance was 1000+, modest but acceptable for first year team in a hampered league.

Call the Wilmington team owners and they'll explain to you that it is more cost effective to travel to further away when you have plenty of time to plan, rather than having to book a shorter trip on one days' notice because the team you were supposed to play closed up shop the day before. They'll then laugh at you for even having to explain it.

Cutting more to the point, they'll simply tell you that their business depended on being in a league where they can count on teams showing up when scheduled. They had no personal issues with Joe Newman or particular love for any of the PBL cast.

TheStandard
06-19-2007, 01:54 PM
Note yes they recently changed the time clock it in the Euroleague. Puerto Rico will change their clocks from 30 to 24 next season although the National team plays their games with a 24 clock. A good example of this was on June 9th for the BSN All Star game which was The PR National Team vs Team DirecTV (US & Foreign).

Coach K to me always will be overrated. D'Antoni would be a great coach but players with their egos don't want a man that will say what he thinks of their game to their face.

Phil Jackson is better suited for the National Team.

Is Fiba Ball appealing? Yes. Why? It will emphasize defense more along with more offensive rebounds and allows you to open up your game too. Game speeds will be faster and it will allow for the teams to step up on defense. It is also good for the PBL since it looks like they do want players to go to Europe eventually or to Puerto Rico who's season begins in April.

The PBL is right on track to having a good year but it can only be good as long as everything goes right.

Pounder
06-19-2007, 04:30 PM
its all facts


example : Willmington Sea Dawgs averaged only 300 fans per game , same team new league with a 300% travel expense increase ....


no new fans just tripple the costs , hahahahaha

PBL - you STINK !

If you had as much as one source to cite (are those records even kept by the ABA?), there could actually be a debate.

Ponzi schemes don't like to keep stats.

The Magician
06-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Shame On You Pbl , Shame On You !

I bet you sign your name in Crayola Crayon every day ...

robster2001
06-19-2007, 08:04 PM
You can tell how afraid the ABA is of the PBL when their chief shill is spending all of his time at the library kiosk badmouthing the PBL.

As has been noted before, if the ABA spent nearly as much effort cleaning up their own mess as they did trying to sabotage the PBL, they might actually... *gasp*... improve?

bomp
06-22-2007, 10:38 PM
its all facts


example : Willmington Sea Dawgs averaged only 300 fans per game , same team new league with a 300% travel expense increase ....


no new fans just tripple the costs , hahahahaha

PBL - you STINK !



Chicky:

Will they put YOU in 'The Box' in prison? Or maybe a camp?

No, not a camp. You'd actually have to do a REAL day's work there.

hahahahahaha! :D

Go visit Sea Breeze, idiot!

bomp
06-22-2007, 10:43 PM
Phil Jackson is better suited for the National Team.

As he was called in Albany, Phil 'Action' Jackson. A great CBA coach and a hell of a guy. He worked at the Stueben Athletic Club when he first came to town. He used to spot for me! Really!

heavesrock
06-22-2007, 11:22 PM
The PBL will play with European rules?