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cglue
03-22-2007, 05:39 PM
I know this could be done in another message board but since I am an owner of a basketball franchise I would like your direction. I want to invest in an indoor football team, which league is best before I shoot for the AFL?
cglue
Fells
03-22-2007, 05:43 PM
I know this could be done in another message board but since I am an owner of a basketball franchise I would like your direction. I want to invest in an indoor football team, which league is best before I shoot for the AFL?
cglue
NOT the NIFL which is a disaster equal to that of the ABA. I would shoot for AF2 since they are of course affiliated with the original AFL and are in smaller markets.
Just my two cents,
Fells
NOT the NIFL which is a disaster equal to that of the ABA. I would shoot for AF2 since they are of course affiliated with the original AFL and are in smaller markets.
Just my two cents,
Fells
Fells is right. I wouldn't bother with the others. Unless you enjoy losing your shirt.
Fells
03-22-2007, 05:52 PM
Fells is right. I wouldn't bother with the others. Unless you enjoy losing your shirt.
Well, I have to be right about SOMETHING!!! Lord knows my wife never allows it in the house. Oh, hi honey!!!!! WHACK!!!!!!!!
Well, I have to be right about SOMETHING!!! Lord knows my wife never allows it in the house. Oh, hi honey!!!!! WHACK!!!!!!!!
Are you married to my Ex????? :D
cglue
03-22-2007, 06:11 PM
NOT the NIFL which is a disaster equal to that of the ABA. I would shoot for AF2 since they are of course affiliated with the original AFL and are in smaller markets.
Just my two cents,
Fells
I just want to show wisdom and thinking about the AIFA because it seemed more stable than the rest. We had a team but it didnt do good and I just wanted to test the waters in another league to see if it will be received here again.
cglue
TheStandard
03-22-2007, 06:19 PM
try the CIFL. wait thats too far of a trip.
umm anything except the NIFL.
cglue
03-22-2007, 06:36 PM
Anyone knows the franchise fee for AIFA.
cglue
TheStandard
03-22-2007, 06:57 PM
call them. thats the best way to do it.
remember football costs even way much more
rams80
03-22-2007, 07:10 PM
Anyone knows the franchise fee for AIFA.
cglue
If you have to ask you don't have enough....
I'd recommend UIF, AIFA, WIFL, or CIFL. af2 and AFL will weed you out on the financials.
AIFA is the least stable of the leagues listed.
Whatever you do, DON'T do it on the cheap.
The Sweeper
03-22-2007, 07:11 PM
Since af2 has 5 teams in Texas..
Amarillo Dusters
Corpus Christi Sharks
Laredo Lobos
Lubbock Renegades
Texas Copperheads (Katy Copperheads from NIFL)
I don't know how much interest they would have in putting another team in Texas. Would keep down travel costs, though.
rams80
03-22-2007, 07:32 PM
It's not travel costs, it's franchise fees (though the Texas Copperheads would preclude a Houston team). And I made my first post before seeing where he's located-its Intense or maybe APFL for you.
cglue
03-22-2007, 07:32 PM
Not trying to be cheap but show wisdom on how much Im putting up and not looking for a way to lose it on a folding league. My first move was Intense, but they havent called me back after a week. I was told they are a good league but probably dont want anyone effecting his boys in Katy.
cglue
cglue
03-22-2007, 07:41 PM
It's not travel costs, it's franchise fees (though the Texas Copperheads would preclude a Houston team). And I made my first post before seeing where he's located-its Intense or maybe APFL for you.
It really wouldnt bother them simply because of there location. It is on the far west outskirts of Houston near Katy and the arena will be built completely on the otherside of the city close to the airport.
cglue
rams80
03-22-2007, 08:59 PM
It really wouldnt bother them simply because of there location. It is on the far west outskirts of Houston near Katy and the arena will be built completely on the otherside of the city close to the airport.
cglue
there is a 75 mile territorial rights halo for each team in the arena family. That's why Texas would preclude a team. (Unless you plan to build your arena in the boondocks, which doesn't strike me as viable.) af2 also prefers to work with actual arena management groups like Global and SMG IIRC.
BreakersFan
03-23-2007, 09:27 AM
Cglue - you must be a glutton for punishment. First an ABA team and now an indoor football team?
If you have that much money to invest/lose, I'd buy a USBL team or a CHL team before anything else. Forget the ABA and indoor football.
TheStandard
03-23-2007, 11:34 AM
id invest in a soccer team before that
cglue
03-23-2007, 05:53 PM
Houston Dynamos, won the cup in first season
cglue
TheStandard
03-23-2007, 06:27 PM
Houston was not an expansion team. They were the San Jose Earthquakes and they only packed up their bags and relocated to Houston.
tony-o
03-23-2007, 07:17 PM
It sounds like this team would be located in Texas, right?
If so, the best leagues travel wise are the IFL and APFL.
rams80
03-23-2007, 07:20 PM
Not trying to be cheap but show wisdom on how much Im putting up and not looking for a way to lose it on a folding league. My first move was Intense, but they havent called me back after a week. I was told they are a good league but probably dont want anyone effecting his boys in Katy.
cglue
Did you mention the letters "ABA" anywhere in your missive to them? Quite honestly, after further thought, the only leagues that probably wouldn't laugh you out of the the room when your ABA franchise ownership came up would be the Niffle, the APFL, and maybe the AIFA. (Oh...and it would come up with all the other leagues-they actually do due diligence on owners).
cglue
03-23-2007, 07:25 PM
Did you mention the letters "ABA" anywhere in your missive to them? Quite honestly, after further thought, the only leagues that probably wouldn't laugh you out of the the room when your ABA franchise ownership came up would be the Niffle, the APFL, and maybe the AIFA. (Oh...and it would come up with all the other leagues-they actually do due diligence on owners).
So what does that say about the nicely ran Intense Football League who has one of the expansion teams next season and ok, do you due deligence. I dont run from business just as long as it turns a profit.
cglue
rams80
03-23-2007, 07:58 PM
So what does that say about the nicely ran Intense Football League who has one of the expansion teams next season and ok, do you due deligence. I dont run from business just as long as it turns a profit.
cglue
I guess Dittman knows himself best, but I half expect him to unload it over the offseason honestly (won't exactly cost him a whole lot). My point was that most football leagues will see "ABA owner" and provided said owner isn't Rochester, they will assume that the owner is underfunded and a liability. They also will question whether there as a viable arena for indoor football that the owner can get a lease at.
I'm also saying that the only way to guarantee yourself a short-term profit is by doing things on the cheap, which is fatal in the long-term. It's not a bad thing if you're in the red the first year or two (provided you're in the red from marketing the heck out of the team and the fans are coming).
TheStandard
03-23-2007, 08:04 PM
you just have to show that you are not ABAish
cglue
03-23-2007, 08:09 PM
Thats why building trying to have my own so it will kill speculation of my power. "Kneel now indoor league peasants and wait to receive the wrath of the Houston Spartans, HHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!" LOL
BTW, that was a great movie.
cglue
LASportsFan
03-23-2007, 08:16 PM
Cglue, can you give us any details on your arena? Seating capacity? Style? Are there any artist's drawings of the place yet?
rams80
03-23-2007, 08:32 PM
Cglue, can you give us any details on your arena? Seating capacity? Style? Are there any artist's drawings of the place yet?
My question exactly. Is this actually a nice building or is this something Jim Terry would be proud of?
cglue
03-23-2007, 08:40 PM
I have a layout right now and the architechs have just started the first phase of the plans. Seating capacity will be around 6500, 4 restrooms, 16 concession booths(8 on each side) and we have the appraisal already. The naming rights game has just begun which have been interesting meetings.
cglue
LASportsFan
03-23-2007, 08:43 PM
Cglue, best of luck to you. That sounds like an excellent seating capacity for a minor league arena. If you pull it off, hats off to you.
TheStandard
03-23-2007, 08:53 PM
just dont name it The Joe Newman Center or somethin
cglue
03-23-2007, 09:00 PM
No no no, no Joe. Cant say any names but I hope its the yellow people. We are enertaining 3.5 for five years.
cglue
Minor League Man
03-23-2007, 09:10 PM
No no no, no Joe. Cant say any names but I hope its the yellow people. We are enertaining 3.5 for five years.
cglue
Will our fingers do the walking? (lol)
cglue
03-23-2007, 09:15 PM
Nope but give me 10 on 5
cglue
Minor League Man
03-23-2007, 10:12 PM
What I meant was "Will the Yellow Pages be your sponsor?"
cglue
03-24-2007, 11:47 PM
I knew what you meant I just cant say it while these guys are meeting .
cglue
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