ABA Power Rankings as of 02/24/07

[The Magician]

Let the favoritism begin ...

Vermont edges out Arkansas and Texas for top spot in Power Rankings 02/25/07 - American Basketball Association (ABA)

Indianapolis, IN. The American Basketball Association (ABA) today released its Power Rankings through Saturday, February 24th - and in spite of a loss, the Vermont Frost Heaves narrowly edged out the powerful Arkansas Aeros and Texas Tycoons for the number one spot. According to Brad Hester, ABA VP of Team Operations, "This next week should be a dandy as the league draws to a close and teams position themselves for the playoff run. There are only 24 playoff positions and there are 30 teams with a chance to make it. Every game counts - and you know that it will be a very competitive week." The rankings:

1. Vermont Frost Heaves
2. Arkansas Aeros
3. Texas Tycoons
4. Jacksonville Jam
5. Quad City Riverhawks
6. Beijing Aoshen
7. Rochester Razorsharks
8. Minnesota Ripknees
9. Wilmington Sea Dawgs
10. Bellingham Slam
11. Mississippi Miracles
12. San Diego Wildcats
13. Detroit Panthers
14. Buffalo Silverbacks
15. Strong Island Sound
16. Quebec Kebekwa
17. Peoria Kings
18. Sauk Valley Rollers
19. Hollywood Fame
20. Maryland Nighthawks
21. Gallup Outlaws
22. Palm Beach Imperials
23. Cape Cod Frenzy
24. Maywood Buzz

"The Tennessee Mud Frogs, Brooklyn Coments, Atlanta Vision, St. Louis Stunners, King County Royals and Orlando Aces could make it with wins closing out the season," added Hester. "Nothing's set in stone yet."
For more information, visit www.abalive.com.

I'm laughing at these power rankings ... ABA, ya gotta clue :confused:

Lots of takes ... but how can you rate Texas at #3 over the Jacksonville Jam at #4 ???

What, because Texas (though, appearing to have a solid team) have won all 4 of their games since 02/02/07 ... and the Jam have won 6 of 8 games (not incl. tonight's 02/25 game) since February 2nd, 2007.

That's what I call favoritism ... and Texas will slide by the rest of the season playing a game here and a game there ... while the Jam will play all 36 games.

Also, the #2 Arkansas Aeros (Although, they have a heck of a basketball team) ... have only played 2 games since 02/02/07 (not counting tonight's 02/25 game). And they deserve to be #2 in the rankings ??? Let's see how many games they will play between now and the playoffs? Not many I bet ... as Jacksonville plays all 36 games.

The ABA ... You don't have a clue! It should be ... Vermont #1 and Jacksonville #2

And by the way ... If Tennessee makes it into the playoffs ... Well, that's rubbish. For a team that doesn't practice, doesn't pay their players, doesn't play home games ... How can they be considered for a playoff spot? That shows alot of respect by the ABA toward it's member teams :rolleyes:

I wonder if Tennessee showed up in Atlanta to play this afternoon??? [Atlanta 125 : 86 Tennessee]

The fact is ... the ABA brackets will be skewed in the end ...

All I can say is ... I'm sorry for the teams who are trying to do their very best. You very well might get Skewwwwwwwwwed!

[tbayz1]

Let the favoritism begin ...

Vermont edges out Arkansas and Texas for top spot in Power Rankings02/25/07 - American Basketball Association (ABA)

Indianapolis, IN. The American Basketball Association (ABA) today released its Power Rankings through Saturday, February 24th - and in spite of a loss, the Vermont Frost Heaves narrowly edged out the powerful Arkansas Aeros and Texas Tycoons for the number one spot. According to Brad Hester, ABA VP of Team Operations, "This next week should be a dandy as the league draws to a close and teams position themselves for the playoff run. There are only 24 playoff positions and there are 30 teams with a chance to make it. Every game counts - and you know that it will be a very competitive week." The rankings:

1. Vermont Frost Heaves
2. Arkansas Aeros
3. Texas Tycoons
4. Jacksonville Jam
5. Quad City Riverhawks
6. Beijing Aoshen
7. Rochester Razorsharks
8. Minnesota Ripknees
9. Wilmington Sea Dawgs
10. Bellingham Slam
11. Mississippi Miracles
12. San Diego Wildcats
13. Detroit Panthers
14. Buffalo Silverbacks
15. Strong Island Sound
16. Quebec Kebekwa
17. Peoria Kings
18. Sauk Valley Rollers
19. Hollywood Fame
20. Maryland Nighthawks
21. Gallup Outlaws
22. Palm Beach Imperials
23. Cape Cod Frenzy
24. Maywood Buzz

"The Tennessee Mud Frogs, Brooklyn Coments, Atlanta Vision, St. Louis Stunners, King County Royals and Orlando Aces could make it with wins closing out the season," added Hester. "Nothing's set in stone yet."
For more information, visit www.abalive.com.

I'm laughing at these power rankings ... ABA, ya gotta clue :confused:

Lots of takes ... but how can you rate Texas at #3 over the Jacksonville Jam at #4 ???

What, because Texas has won all 4 of their games since 02/02/07 ... and the Jam have won 6 of 8 games since February 2nd, 2007.

That's what I call favoritism ... and Texas will slide by the rest of the season playing a game here and a game there ... while the Jam will play all 36 games.

Also, the #2 Arkansas Aeros (Although, they have a heck of a basketball team) ... have only played 2 games since 02/02/07. And they deserve to be #2 in the rankings ??? Let's see how many games they will play between now and the playoffs? Not many I bet ... as Jacksonville plays all 36 games.

The ABA ... You don't have a clue! It should be ... Vermont #1 and Jacksonville #2

And by the way ... If Tennessee makes it into the playoffs ... Well, that's rubbish. For a team that doesn't practice, doesn't pay their players, doesn't play home games ... and who doesn't even show up for road games ... and their considered a "road team" ... That shows alot of smarts on the part of the ABA :rolleyes:

The fact is ... the ABA brackets will be skewed in the end ...

All I can say is ... I'm sorry for the teams!

Buffalo should be ahead of Detroit, theyre 14-11 i believe and were 14-10 and we jus killed em on Thurs, and we may only be 3-3 against them but they beat us twice in our first 4 games of the year that were losses and we didnt have Kueth Duany due to injury, and we didnt have Lamar Castile yet either, now im not sayin Detroit sux and doesnt deserve to be in the top16, they do deserve that but i jus think were beta than them and we jus beat Vermont who is ranked #1, but hey we both get a playoff home game for being in the top 16

and i think it is about favoritism, now im not saying Vermont is bad but i dont think they should be #1, they do play Montreal, Newark, and Cape Cod alot and have racked up a bunch of wins against losing teams, but theyre still a good team, #1 idk top 10 most deff though

[heavesrock]

Well, Detroit has beated Rochester like 5 times, so that should get a mention. As for Texas, they've beaten Arkansas a time or two, the other Arkansas like 4 times when they existed, and Jacksonville has only played 1 tough team to note(unless you count Wilmington as a tough team) and they don't exist anymore. Vermont has beaten some good teams in Bellingham(2), Rochester, Buffalo(2), and CApe Cod and Strong Island aren't bad.

[bdaly]

Detroit went 3-2 versus Rochester with the home team winning every game. Rochester seems to be stuck in the polls despite playing strong basketball of late. But all they can do is take care of business the rest of the way--including the Vermont game as the series is tied at 1-1. I've got to believe Arkansas has the most talent in the league given the "merger."

[tbayz1]

Well, Detroit has beated Rochester like 5 times, so that should get a mention. As for Texas, they've beaten Arkansas a time or two, the other Arkansas like 4 times when they existed, and Jacksonville has only played 1 tough team to note(unless you count Wilmington as a tough team) and they don't exist anymore. Vermont has beaten some good teams in Bellingham(2), Rochester, Buffalo(2), and CApe Cod and Strong Island aren't bad.

Detroit has beaten Rochester 3 times so yes they should get mentioned for that, but now w/o Katu Davis, who didnt play on Thurs so im guessing he left the team, he was a great player, prolly their best, idk how good they will be goin into the playoffs w/o him

and Vermont yes has beaten good teams including us(buffalo) in 2 close games and one w/o Kueth Duany, id like to correct myself and say they are most deff a top5 team not jus top10, and u guys are 1-1 against rochester, man id like to see us and Rochester play ya guys more, that was a great game Wed when we played ya guys! and Vermont also did beat Bellingham twice, but they also lost to Montreal, and i think i counted 11 wins against Montreal/Newark/Cape Cod combined, but the other 10+ wins have been against good teams and were good wins, but #1 ehh top5 yes!

[heavesrock]

Well, what team in the top 10 hasn't gotten half its wins over losing teams? Not every team is going to be good. Let's break down the Heaves wins:

Quebec City Kebekwa-16-11/3 Wins
Montreal MAtrix/Royal-6-17/4 Wins
Buffalo Silverbacks-14-10/2 Wins
Cape Cod Frenzy-10-17/7 wins
Strong Island Sound-15-11/1 win
Newark Express-2-20/3 wins
Chicago Rockstars-?/1 win
Rochester Razorsharks-19-6/1 win
Bellingham Slam-20-10/2 wins

so our average winning percantage won against is: .396. Take that for what it's worth. I added Chicago as .400 if you're interested. I think most top teams have something around that area.

[The Sweeper]

I hate to correct you, Heavesrock, but we have 2 wins against Strong Island, 96-94 at Strong Island and 119-96 in Burlington.

The only team that has beaten us twice is Quebec (still need to play Rochester on the road). We lost the season opener in Quebec City and they also delt us our only loss at home,in Barre.

[tbayz1]

Well, what team in the top 10 hasn't gotten half its wins over losing teams? Not every team is going to be good. Let's break down the Heaves wins:

Quebec City Kebekwa-16-11/3 Wins
Montreal MAtrix/Royal-6-17/4 Wins
Buffalo Silverbacks-14-10/2 Wins
Cape Cod Frenzy-10-17/7 wins
Strong Island Sound-15-11/1 win
Newark Express-2-20/3 wins
Chicago Rockstars-?/1 win
Rochester Razorsharks-19-6/1 win
Bellingham Slam-20-10/2 wins

so our average winning percantage won against is: .396. Take that for what it's worth. I added Chicago as .400 if you're interested. I think most top teams have something around that area.

u guys are rele good, ino that, all im sayin is u guys got alot wins(almost half) on losing teams but backed that right up with wins against winning teams(the other half of wins) like Buffalo,Strong Island,Bellingham,Quebec, im jus tryin to make a point that we would all see how good Vermont really is if u played Rochester more and even us ova here in Buffalo, statiscally u guys are the team to beat, and u guys deserve that title as #1 and can back that up very very well, i have a lot of respect for Vermont, so a conclusion im tryin to make is yes u guys are #1 and should be, but personally Vermont doesnt look like a #1 team when i saw them, i thought Buffalo handled u guys well and competes with ya guys prty well and it was a close game, but IMO i didnt think that u guys were that much better than us, but if we were to play each other more, i wouldnt be surprised if ya guys took the series, ive only seen Vermont play once and didnt look like a #1 team to me, maybe it was an off night idk, maybe we(Buffalo) match up prty good against Vermont, idk, i think maybe i jus need to see Vermont play more to personally call them the best team and #1 but statistically wise id put ya at #1 any day

[heavesrock]

We would play Rochester and Buffalo more, but when the schedule came out, you weren't in our division. You were supposed to be in a division with Rochester, Buffalo, Detroit, Twin Cities, Pittsburgh, and Toledo. But Pittsburgh jumped and Toledo folded so you got moved to our division. They didn't change the schedule to games against us more, so that's why we don't play you more.

[tbayz1]

We would play Rochester and Buffalo more, but when the schedule came out, you weren't in our division. You were supposed to be in a division with Rochester, Buffalo, Detroit, Twin Cities, Pittsburgh, and Toledo. But Pittsburgh jumped and Toledo folded so you got moved to our division. They didn't change the schedule to games against us more, so that's why we don't play you more.

ooo i see, didnt kno that, thx for that info heavesrock

[jamesaba]

Cape Cod is 10-7 against teams not named Rochester or Vermont....and four games that I saw against those 2 top teams were single digit losses.

Sometimes records can be misleading especially in the aba where players change so often and you have teams traveling several days in a row.

No one will ever agree with any Power Rankings...thats why its called a "Power" Rankings and not just a regular rankings. The whole idea is that someone in authority gives weight to teams in order of their "power". But that doesn't work here because the ABA league office (a) doesn't know basketball that well and (b) they don't see all the teams. So the system is really: if you win you go up a notch and if you lose you go down a notch.

Surely there's some favortism in their for teams that are making all their games or filling in games or whatever - but that's the nature of the league right now.

As far as the playoffs, there's a chance that a deserving team or two will be left out but in reality there will be a handful of teams begging not to be in because they don't want to spend the money so it really doesn't matter much.

[carterpatterson]

I think Mississippi was a surprise for me. The Vision split its 4 game series with them although I really think we should have won 3 out of 4. I like their organization but #11 might be a touch high.

[pistol44]

Just so we are clear here....Detroit beat Rochester 3 times, all on their home court and pretty close with the last one on a questionable bucket as the horn sounded. Isn't it interesting that Rochester has not lost a game since Jan. 20 (5-0) and continues to drop in the rankings? I wouldn't want to think that Joe and Brad and Tom are vindictive but.....

[bdaly]

Just so we are clear here....Detroit beat Rochester 3 times, all on their home court and pretty close with the last one on a questionable bucket as the horn sounded. Isn't it interesting that Rochester has not lost a game since Jan. 20 (5-0) and continues to drop in the rankings? I wouldn't want to think that Joe and Brad and Tom are vindictive but.....
I can't help but to wonder myself. Outside of Cape Cod, most of their wins come against ranked teams and none of the games were close. You almost wonder if they're being set up to drop out of the top eight should they lose to Vermont or Strong Island. Too bad they can't come up with some sort of rankings algorithm.

[TheONLINEVOICE]

I just wanted to clear up a few things bout detroit since this is my first post.Katu Davis is still with the team he played this weekend in 2 blowout wins over knoxville..as for buffalo kicking detroit's butts the panthers played without there top 2 Katu Davis and Gerrod Abram scorers and one big guy Terrel Riggs all of these players are injured Detroit just signed 3 players for there playoff run. and lets not talk bout the class buffalo has when your owner who acts like a assistant coach starts to tell the detroit coach to f off 2 times during the 2nd quarter...as for theses rankings it seems pretty crazy if the ABA thinks these west coast teams will travel cross country in first round of playoffs or east coast teams would do same and may have to return the next game.unless the league game them some money..all the games VS buffalo and Rochester have been good games but the panthers will only play 30 games because of toledo anderson and twin city's not making it threw season..oh yeah that dont happen here...as for Vermont we saw them play aganist buffalo and talent wise buffalo is up there with the razorsharks and vermont when then can go with there big line up it is hard to match up and ZONE DEFENSE should be left for 8th graders not for pro players..good teams dont play zone

[TheONLINEVOICE]

that bucket that detroit scored at the end VS rochester was not in question he got it off well before the buzzer i was there. he let it go with plenty of time on clock

[Minor League Man]

Why is Gallup still listed (I don't think they've played a single game in February!)

[tbayz1]

I just wanted to clear up a few things bout detroit since this is my first post.Katu Davis is still with the team he played this weekend in 2 blowout wins over knoxville..as for buffalo kicking detroit's butts the panthers played without there top 2 Katu Davis and Gerrod Abram scorers and one big guy Terrel Riggs all of these players are injured Detroit just signed 3 players for there playoff run. and lets not talk bout the class buffalo has when your owner who acts like a assistant coach starts to tell the detroit coach to f off 2 times during the 2nd quarter...as for theses rankings it seems pretty crazy if the ABA thinks these west coast teams will travel cross country in first round of playoffs or east coast teams would do same and may have to return the next game.unless the league game them some money..all the games VS buffalo and Rochester have been good games but the panthers will only play 30 games because of toledo anderson and twin city's not making it threw season..oh yeah that dont happen here...as for Vermont we saw them play aganist buffalo and talent wise buffalo is up there with the razorsharks and vermont when then can go with there big line up it is hard to match up and ZONE DEFENSE should be left for 8th graders not for pro players..good teams dont play zone


i thought Detroit was missing more than jus Katu, hmm didnt no he was hurt, thought he might have left for Europe or somethin cos hes rele good! yeah im a buffalo fan as u prolly kno already and i hate the owner being on the bench and gettin involved, but someone has to calm down our head coach Trevor Ruffin once in awhile lol, but even with Katu and the other 2 guys their still close games and we got the beta record on ya since the first 2 times ya played us wen we had injured players and Lamar Castile and Keith Closs werent on the team when we played ya twice early on in Nov since then i think were 3-1 against ya guys, and hey Toledo cost us like 6or7 games too, and i agree, im wondering how these teams out west are gona be able to afford coming to Detroit and Buffalo, and finally i hate the zone defense Vermont plays, here in Buffalo we got some good shooters and passers that can beat the zone, well hope Katu gets fully recovered and wishin the best of luck to Detroit in the playoffs :)

[TheONLINEVOICE]

well we had one guy go to germany ethan shaw..you may have gotten 2 at home but all have been good games..yeah and that old guy u had coaching with the gold chains his son or whoever he was that kept score he has a big mouth 2. i think buffalo has just as much talent as rochester

[tbayz1]

[QUOTE=TheONLINEVOICE;35844]well we had one guy go to germany ethan shaw..you may have gotten 2 at home but all have been good games..yeah and that old guy u had coaching with the gold chains his son or whoever he was that kept score he has a big mouth 2. i think buffalo has just as much talent as rochester[/QUOTE

we beat ya 3 times at home once on thurs, again on Jan18, and on Dec8th we beat ya too we lost once at home and twice in Detroit to u, but who cares were both good teams in the playoffs and in the top16, and yeah we did have a score keeper that liked to complain to the refs and be loud but idk if u no who im talkin bout but o well, ive havent see him do the score keeping for the last few games

[heavesrock]

good teams dont play zone


Oh. Ok. Good Teams play whatever defense or offense that can win them games. Zone, man, whatever, if you win with it, you play with it.

[tbayz1]

personally i dont like zone, im in high school and play for my school and none of the teams(freshmen,jv,varsity) play zone, my school has been very sucessful with man to man and teams with zones struggle(more at varsity than any other level) but zone can work effectivly and rele good, but i dont like it, i think its man to man stops open shots and easy passes