I'd like to see...

[mvhcpa]

...the best teams from the D-League and the CBA (and any teams worth their salt in the ABA) come together under the banner of the CBA. It would probably have to be those other teams coming into the D-League and the D-League changing their name. At least the tradition of the CBA could continue.

Would such a league be too spread out? Would a direct link with the NBA hurt anything? Would the NBA be willing to stuff money into such a project? Would a minor league Baseball type arrangement fit for basketball? Would it really be the CBA's tradition continuing, or just a name?

Just wondering...an ideas out there?

Michael Val

[heavesrock]

Here's an idea: The best 2 teams from the CBA, D-League, ABA, and the best EBA and TPBL team come together the next season and play kind of a champions league like they do in soccer. Not gonna happen though.

[mvhcpa]

Here's an idea: The best 2 teams from the CBA, D-League, ABA, and the best EBA and TPBL team come together the next season and play kind of a champions league like they do in soccer. Not gonna happen though.

How about USBL and WBA? Maybe they wouldn't have the same level of competition, but they could prove it on the court.

Michael Val
(who forgot to say in his ealier post that if his plan went through, the NBA could have the CBA for free instead of what they were going to pay Isaiah Thomas!)

[bectond]

Sorry but the NBA does not want to have one minor league, basketball is global now, the second round of the draft in a few years will be more of an international draft and players that would have been 2nd round picks in the past as well as players that currently go overseas now will play in the developmental league with former high schoolers that did not have the grades for college, the turn-over rate in the development league will be extremely high so another league for players with three or more years of experience will be needed as well as an indie league for guys that need a second or third chance. In the next decade the NBA will most likely be affiliated with three or four leagues but it will not be structured like baseball because the younger developmental league will have the most talent (future NBA starters) while the veteran AAA type league will be full possible NBA back-ups.

[heavesrock]

How about USBL and WBA? Maybe they wouldn't have the same level of competition, but they could prove it on the court.

Michael Val
(who forgot to say in his ealier post that if his plan went through, the NBA could have the CBA for free instead of what they were going to pay Isaiah Thomas!)



I was just talking about the winter leagues. IF the games were to playing on off days in December-February, than the summer league teams wouldn't fit in. Maybe try another one with the USBL, WBA, IBL, UNIVBL, and UNITBL.

[suge night]

I think all of you have the idea of what needs to happen and is somewhat already in place D-League and only because of the direct contact in place with NBA (AAA) Because we all know those teams are full of backup players only-and then go down the line from their all the way to even a (A) Short season Rookie League now fan base doesn't have to be a big deal for lower level teams because they can play on court's that fit what they are doing and as for the D-League teams they two unless owned by an NBA team should play in a smaller complex and stop fooling themself's.

[sportsguy12]

I think all of you have the idea of what needs to happen and is somewhat already in place D-League and only because of the direct contact in place with NBA (AAA) Because we all know those teams are full of backup players only-and then go down the line from their all the way to even a (A) Short season Rookie League now fan base doesn't have to be a big deal for lower level teams because they can play on court's that fit what they are doing and as for the D-League teams they two unless owned by an NBA team should play in a smaller complex and stop fooling themself's.

The D-League teams all play in suitable arenas, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. You might need to use a spell checker, however.

[suge night]

Sportsguy12-This is a message board and sometimes while writing one will put a word in the wrong way or even mis-spell it but you can't and don't want to take up a lot of space here to write something,I think each person that read a remark no matter how bad it might be written get the main point.As for the D-League and the Arena the teams play in, that is part of the problem they have big Arena's with empty seats that will impress anyone that goes out to the game I know how overwhelm I was sitting in an empty 10,000 seat Arena with 150 watching the game..........

[sportsguy12]

Sportsguy12-This is a message board and sometimes while writing one will put a word in the wrong way or even mis-spell it but you can't and don't want to take up a lot of space here to write something,I think each person that read a remark no matter how bad it might be written get the main point.As for the D-League and the Arena the teams play in, that is part of the problem they have big Arena's with empty seats that will impress anyone that goes out to the game I know how overwhelm I was sitting in an empty 10,000 seat Arena with 150 watching the game..........

when its hard to read. Which arena was that by the way? Let's not be secrative about it?

[suge night]

I have put that in past messages,but for you the Flyers games and the Arena has been empty for the two season they have played and doesn't seem to be getting any better,I'm no fan of any league just like to see good play on the court and talent develop.By the way I didn't take your commit personal !

[bectond]

I think all of you have the idea of what needs to happen and is somewhat already in place D-League and only because of the direct contact in place with NBA (AAA) Because we all know those teams are full of backup players only-and then go down the line from their all the way to even a (A) Short season Rookie League now fan base doesn't have to be a big deal for lower level teams because they can play on court's that fit what they are doing and as for the D-League teams they two unless owned by an NBA team should play in a smaller complex and stop fooling themself's.

The NBA already has the basic frame work for creating the system of the future. The D-league will grow into the buildings they currently play in, check NBA attendance prior to 1980, I see the D-League taking off once the NBA starts having High School drafts, High school players will have to spend a year in the D-League and many will spend two full seasons. Once some of the top High schoolers start showing up in the NBDL then the league will catch on and the buzz will start. The D-League will have as much young talent in it as the ACC or Big East. It will be huge. I posted this in another thread but it also applies here. The NBA already has the workings for a short season summer league (they currently play it in Las Vegas) and a league for developing unsigned rookie free agents now all they have to do is institute the High school draft. The CBA will have to rebound however, currently it is also in place. It just needs to grow in size. The spring leagues are also already in place and the some current and future ABA teams could form the backbone of a solid indie league or some CBA teams could operate as non-affilated clubs. (an idea that might cause the CBA to grow to an unsafe level, too many teams would hamper the supply and demand ratio for team owners looking to sell their teams):

1-A short season Summer league (one affilate for each NBA club) where newly signed draftees, undrafted rookies can get immediate competition after the college season vs. second year pros and top-level indie league prospects.

2- The NBDL (one affilate for each NBA club) would consist of unsigned rookie free agents (2-3 per club each year) that sign two year minor league contracts with an NBA 3rd year promotion option. A high school draft that takes place in sept (after college classes start) for players that did not sign with NCAA programs. D-league teams would sign 2-3 academically flawed former high schoolers to three year minor league contracts with NBA promotion options after each season. 1st and 2nd year NBA roster players would also be eligible for d-league assignments as would players on the NBA disabled list, who could rehab in the NBDL. Teams would be owned by and placed geographical placed close to the parent club

3- The CBA (one affilate for each NBA club)would consist of former NBDL players with 3-10 years of minor league experience that re-sign with the affilate team
and free agents(1-10 years experience)that were released from an affilated NBDL team and former NBA players that could not make any 15 man NBA rosters. NBA teams would use the CBA to either: garaged veterans (high salary with rights owned by affilate club) or free agent veterans (low salary and free to sign a 10 day deal with any NBA club for a small fee).
top-level indie league prospects would also be allowed to sign with CBA clubs and the CBA would continue to hold it's annual draft for rookies that were: (a) not drafted or signed as free agents by NBA clubs and for (b)players that signed overseas- NBA clubs would retain their rights if they ever returned to the states(the NBA club would assign the player to the USBL or CBA before promoting them to the parent club). Each CBA team would be required to keep at least 1 rookie, 4 players with 1-5 years exp. and 5 players with 6 or more year exp. CBA teams would have private ownership however, the NBA parent club would pay the salary of garaged players and CBA draftees.

4- The Spring Leagues{USBL/WBA} (one affilate for each NBA club) Would be were garaged and Free Agent CBA players, Top-Level indie league players and American players that signed overseas who are attempting to get to the NBA all play high level games in front of NBA scouts for NBA training camp invites.

5-Indie league (ABA) for players that were released from affilate clubs. Gives players a second or third look by NBA clubs if they can turn their careers around in the indie league; and for rookies that were not drafted or signed as free agents by NBA clubs to NBA or D-league contracts or drafted or signed by CBA affiliate clubs or overseas teams.

[panchess]

I think the Patroons took the first step by joining the USBL, but I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of alliance developed between these leagues.

Keeping the guys playing and franchises operating for longer periods makes sense for everybody, and using the same staff to operate two teams is a real economy.

[utahstarsticketholder]

Here's an idea..... Send me $10,000.00 US and I will grant you a franchise in the Jack League. You can play games or not, pay players or not, sell stock in your franchise or not, make up stats or not, have your own team web site or not, cancell games the same night they are scheduled or not, just as long as your check to me clears my bank. On the line where you write a name just put my nickname, CASH.

What do you think?

Remember our troops, jack and cheryl

[utahstarsticketholder]

A system similar to Major League Baseball could work but it would mean that strict rules and a strong hand would be needed to ensure that it would have a chance of success.
The problem is some minor league offices exist to continue a money source scheme that pays for an extravagant lifestyle in a few leagues. (Care to guess which?) Why would they want to share the pie with the sisters of the poor?
Greed eats morals. So it goes on in minor league basketball, local fans are cannon foder for the next guy with a desire to make a buck by owning a piece of the dream!
Until the day comes when all of this either implodes or a sanctioning body takes over, dog eat dog minor league basketball world will continue until the small town teams no longer exist. They will be replaced by a farm team system by the NBA. And as long as the NBA continues to loose market share and ratings this dream to take over the minor leagues may never happen. The NBA may become the equivilant of Major League Soccer.
JM2C.
Remember our troops, jack and cheryl.