More Bull from Killbreath - Player Speaks Out

[hkyfanforlife]

Looks like he is trying to scam again. Read the article on ************ that sais he is going to affiliate with the CPHL. All along we couldn't know who was running the CPHL but now coincidentally he is involved. The article mentions the IIHL can obtain a $750,000 letter of credit, well where was that power when players needed to be paid, bus companies needed to be paid huh. As someone who was screwed over by this man I don't know how he is able to try and start something again. This guy has hurt too many people and it can't happen again. And you want to hear it from a former IIHL player's perspective, then here you go, you are listening to one.
This especially goes for anyone who might be persuaded by him that he was right and never lied, and also for players he might try to recruit and hurt. I in fact write this to protect further players of embarassment publicly and to their families and friends, because we as players were embarassed of what happened to us.
1.)It is true we never got paid a dime. After contracts were signed and pay day came we were told we weren't in the pay cycle yet we had to wait till next week(real rason we wouldn't be seeing him so he didn't have hungry and angry hockey players asking for money. Those who got checks, yeah they bounced. Killbreath has made a point to say at the money he was paying you needed to get a job. Well mike in reality good luck finding a job where your hockey schedule has to come first, Work around practices, games, public appearances, not to mention you creating games out of no where. News flash, it would have been possible to get buy on $125 a week if what is done in every other pro league would have been done. For example, real teams pay for housing equipment, thgere are deals set up with restaurants for discounts or free meals, etc. Gym memberships are set up for free. etc. Basically most of your pay goes to the bank because teams look to take care of their players and not treat them like s@@t. Oh yeah mike by the way, every other pro team does pay for hotels and food during training camp. Get your facts straight.

2.) The Ohio Valley Ice Cats refused to go onto Harbor Springs because they wanted better players better sticks more money. No no no no no, didn't happen. They were thrown off a buss because they lovely owner didn't pay the buss bill. They were given a choice to get off the buss in Lansing or the buss would out of the buss companies own sympathy for the situation, take the team back to where the bus had to go(home base for the bus company) which was closer to Ohio Valley so they would at least be closer to home(new Years Eve by the way) Oh yeah, he didn't even call to find out where they would stay and eat on the New Years Eve night. Not better sticks, not better money, treated like a human being.

I'll give you this, the guy can talk a good talk, tip toe around everything and make you think he is telling the truth and he is the victim. Can't tell you how much I loved having my friends and family back home read articles about what I was part of(I was afraid to call them). Mike also had no part in players moving up the ladder. Those who did move up did so because their coach new some people who were looking for players, they were worthy of moving up but not thanks to Mike.

Please don't let this guy ruin your career or take any time away from your life by putting you in a position you hope your going to have money to eat.

[peetie12]

Thanks hkyfanf4ife, it's good to hear that all the Ice Cats still have my back. I wish everything could have worked out better, but they didn't - and they won't as long as Mike Killbreath (either con-man or clueless - I still don't know) remains at the helm.

I'm curious about something that keeps coming up in the articles; about the "debt" owed in Athens. Does that include the money spent out of my own pocket to get the team back to Athens New Year's Day, and the money spent by one of the player's father so we could have a place to sleep New Year's Eve? Are those the debts he is talking about? Is it the Amerihost, owed $162.70? Big Deal....they don't want it as long as they never have to speak of Mike Killbreath ever agein. Is it the apartments, technically owed $10,000? They also would rather not collect that money if it meant they didn't have to deal with anybody even remotely related to this prick. As for Bird Arena, owed $1700; I know for a fact that they do not want that bill paid because this enables them to deny access to their building for eternity. As for my $500....since I'm a broke-ass college student who was basically raped by the IIHL, yeah I'd love to see the money. Too bad I don't think my bills are on the list of those to be paid by the "new ownership".

Oh well, such is life. I've moved on to better things and as far as I know, most of the players who came through Athens have too. I agree with what hkyfan4life said, and I will support his cuase: making sure that no other person is hurt by this Mike Killbreath character ever again. Spread the word any way you know how.

On a side note; Joe's in jail. Another character that I didn't really trust too much, but even so, seemed more honest than Mike. Haven't heard much from Larry Nader in a while either - hopefully he's moved on to brighter things too.

It's a small world, and the hockey world is REAL small. "Mike Killbreath cannot be trusted."

Pass it on....

[4thechief]

Do you mean joe kolodzjei? is in jail??

[peetie12]

Do you mean joe kolodzjei? is in jail??

After reading the article that is linked from SDN, that was my impression. Of course, he may have posted bond, which means he is not actually in jail, but with all those allegations he may be headed there. Innocent until proven guilty of course.....but getting charged with something isn't a good thing either.

[patmc16]

If the CPHL connection is true, then it immediatly becomes a joke in my book just like the IIHL was. If it is not true, the people running the CPHL need to scream it from the roof tops. If i've learned nothing else since I started following minor league hockey a few years back, it is that MK and anything connected to him is poison. If you involve yourself with it, your gonna get hurt, be you a player, a fan, or an investor.

I never really paid SDN much attention before, but I figured I'd check out the article about MK and the CPHL. First of all, I'm not very impressed with SDN at all. Comparing OSC to SDN is like comparing a beauty queen to her ugly little cousin! (IMO) That being said, the IIHL section is nothing more than a sounding board for MK. If you read it and believe it, everyone connected to the IIHL except MK was a bunch of deadbeats, theives, losers, etc. MK is a hockey king who was a victim of his subjects ignorance. Give me a break! How many things does this loser have to be involved with before everyone realizes he is the LOSER! SDN loses all credibility with me if even 1 of the dozens of posts on OSC about him are true. I'm guessing most, if not all, of them are true or at least based in truth.

hkyfanforlife, I really feel for you. Yes, isn't it convient that he claims to have a $2 mil line of credit now. He couldn't/wouldn't pay a bill a few months ago. He has to have bad debt wherever he has gone, probably going back many years, given the roller hockey debacle. Who would give him a $2 line of credit, much less $2 mil? I wouldn't be involved with that bank, or loan shark, or little old lady investment club, or whatever. I wouldn't trust him if he had $2 mil cash in his hands, and I sure as heck would trust a piece of paper he is waiving around.

But that's just my opinion.

[therealstory]

thanks for your support peet, when you used to call me at my home for advice. contrary to what has been reported here and alsewhere, i was and still am half owner of the predators, that will come out in court. peet, you of all people whould know the battles i had with tom. all will come out in the wash, and i wont be the one paying it will be tom. as for "hockeyfan" the e-mail is leashy for that account and is toms 16 yr old daughter who knows nothing other than what her lying father tells her. he is responsible for her actions legally sense she is a minor, and this is about to get dirty. thanks again peet.

[patmc16]

Sorry, bad proofreading. "I sure as heck WOULDN'T trust a piece of paper he is waiving around." But I guess most of you figured that out. :wink:

[Made in Canada]

Let me put a stop to this rumour right now. The CPHL is NOT associated with the IIHL or Mike Kilbreath in anyway. Mr.Killbreath did send the league an e-mail proposal, but that is all that occured. There has been no response to Kilbreath and or the IIHL and I repeat, there is NO association between the two.

[wncsport.com]

Didn't the SEHL release a statement a few moons ago saying they were working an affiliation with the IIHL?

:roll:

[patmc16]

"Didn't the SEHL release a statement a few moons ago saying they were working an affiliation with the IIHL? "

Yes, back in mid October, before it was clear that the IIHL would be the bad joke that it became. I don't think they have ever acknowledged them again.

[hkyfanforlife]

If the CPHL is indeed not MIke K and not yet affiliated i beg you for your own sake and any future players wanting to just play the game like I always have, stay away. He loves to defer blame, will talk a great story and try to make you believe what he is saying, as if the fact that he is always wearing the same track suit jacket isn't enough. Don't be fooled, he hurt too many of us this year and made us look like clowns. The Ice Cats only got back to Ohio Valley on New Years because on of the players spent his own money on a UHAUL to get back home. We had players on bags and clothes in the back of a UHAUL. Yeah that is what I worked my a@@ off for all my life in hockey was for that to happen because someone was using us as a pawn. This man has to be stopped for other's sake. Wonder why they checks that bounced were given as personal checks, oh yeah did I let that out. We were asked how many deductions we had and then he read the pay off of an envelope.Why isn't that illegal. Just Wondering. I do think however that whatever happened with Joe, he was forced to do so because of the way Killbreath dealt with people. It just seems like Mike brought out the worst in people. I could be wrong though. Imagine being evicted from an apartment that we had to put our name on the lease and be told our owner hasn't and isn't paying the bill. Thanks for helping our credit Mike. Another favorite saying, this team is in default, this team is in default. If all the teams are in default you dumbass how is there a league. Especially if you own all the teams. Players who just wanted to play were taken advantage of. I love the fact it costed me $1500 to play pro hockey.

[Big Chris]

I was saying in October that this thing was a joke. Here we are and it is even more pathetic then ever before. Killbreath does this every single year and makes a mint off of people every year. Yet he remains based in Michigan and everyone knows him and they continuously allow him to rape them for their money over and over again. Are the people of Michigan THAT stupid? Also, how come nobody has the guts to press charges on this prick?

To all of the players who have posted on this board, do something about this. Don't whine on the board about what Killbreath did to you. Take him to task for it. That way you can prevent him from ever doing this to another young player again.

Killbreath if you are reading, (and I can GUARANTEE that you are,) you are the biggest a$$hole who ever lived and deserve everything that is coming to you.

[hkyfanforlife]

Believe me Big Chris I am not wining. In fact I have been a big supporter of all you have said in the past. Simply just trying, as you have, to prevent more people from being hurt. I myself can get no satisfaction from anything, I just don't want to see more people juped.

[BigMike]

IIHL section is nothing more than a sounding board for MK. If you read it and believe it, everyone connected to the IIHL except MK was a
well well OSC has the IIHL news published as well if that is what you are refering too



who is comapring web sites anyhow

WHO CARES
:roll:
Smoke on a message board goes no where :twisted:

[The Shadow]

It is high time that someone brought legal charges against Mr. Killbreath... then followed through on the lawsuit.

The only way to stop this charlatan is to allow the legal system to put him behind bars. However, in order to do that, somebody is going to have to press charges, take him to court and follow their case through to its conclusion.

[patmc16]

BMK why are you here anyway? Shouldn't you be working on your next scheme to screw over people, take their $$ and point the finger at them? Aren't there some more young hockey players who's dreams you can spit on? You are a disgusting piece of trash. How is it with all of the people you have wronged, you have never wronged the wrong person? Or is just a matter of time? The law seems unable to stop you, but does everyone follow the law? I'd hate to live my life looking over my shoulder.

Now, to respond to the post.

The last time I checked, the IIHL had been completely removed from OSC. I don't see :shock: that story, press release, or whatever you want to call it anywhere on OSC. OSC wised up (taking longer than they probably should have.... but did in the end) to the joke league and removed any connection to it other than what people post here. SDN still treats it like it is legit. So, my question is, are they really that clueless over there, or are they in your back pocket?

Who is comparing web sites anyhow? I am you dumba$$! I never claimed anyone else was. I was simply making an observation. Who Cares? I care. I like to know that the info I am reading is legit, when it is presented as if it was legit. Sounds like, to MK, an unanswered e-mail creates an affiliation. Heck if its that easy, I'll fire off an e-mail and get the local rec roller hockey league affiliated with the Detroit Red Wings. Heck, why stop there, I'll get the entire NHL to affiliate with it. :lol: I can make up a line of credit on the printer sitting next to me. You know its not that hard.

Ya, ya, we know BM & MK are not the same person. Save it. You may be able to fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

[Made in Canada]

I hate to have to make things like this public, because they don't belong in the public, but the IIHL left no other choice based on releasing a report that at this time has no factual foundation. In addition to that, to release the report in question to a site that clearly has little or no journalistic integrity magnifies the impact of this eronius report. The following is a copy of the e-mail sent by the CPHL staff to sdn to clarify the statements made in the previously mentioned report. The copy of the CPHL e-mail will be followed by sdn's editorial reply. Read into how you will, but based on the reply, I would suggest that sdn is a questionable resource of news at best.


To whom it may concern,


In response to your article about an IIHL and
CPHL affiliation, I would like to inform you that it
is purely rumour. While Mike Kilbreath has sent an
e-mail proposal to the CPHL offices, at this time that
proposal has gone unanswered. For Mr. Kilbreath to
comment about the IIHL and their ability to operate in
accordance with the CPHL budget structre is purely
speculatory on his part. In addition, it seems curious
that in the article you published on your site the
operating status of three other leagues is mentioned
in detail by the IIHL camp with no mention of its own
inability to operate under its own budgets. In
closing, we would like to ask you to refrain from
linking the IIHL and the CPHL together as they are in
no part affilated.

Thank you,
CPHL staff.


REPLY:

We publish hockey news We suggest that you also submitt a rebuttal and
we
will be happy to publish it as well



"In closing, we would like to ask you to refrain from
linking the IIHL and the CPHL together as they are in
no part affilated."

We did not write the article,
I suggest you contact the author, Mike Kilbreath , if this information
is
incorrect


We publish hockey news

Editor

[patmc16]

Now I have to believe MK is connected to SDN. They say they didn't write the article, MK did. Leave it to MK to write about himself in the third person, arrogant pr!ck! ("He predicts more than 20 teams will be in the IIHL lineup next season." - You got to be kidding!) But when you look at it on their site, it says "Posted by: Staff". Call me crazy but, in my world, "posted by" means the same as "written by". Otherwise everything would be "posted by staff" since non-staff can not control the content of the site. Would kinda make the "posted by" info meaningless, if that is their reasoning. The editors must have gone to the MK school of finger pointing. Even if they didn't write it, shouldn't they have tried to verify the facts before publishing it. Isn't that what any legit news reporting source would do? Obviously not in this case but, in this case, calling them a "legit news source" seems to be stretching it.

[BigMike]

"Posted by: Staff

Do you really think OSC would allow everyone to publish news that are not on their staff here ?

they did not write the article they published news there, like they do here at OSC

Now as suggested why not write a rebutal (sp) as suggested
Seems the time you took here you could have an article published stating
the CPHL is not or have no intentions of affiliating with the IIHL that would have been a better course to take wouldn't you think??

Credability there is none on this board
and actually I do not trust anyone who goes on a message board to promote a League that is total nonsense in my book

Why didn't the office of the CPHL staff. tell MIke K to take a hike
no they just didn't respond and further more to post up the e-mails here on a message board

Made in Canada
How do we know that is what was really written

And if your post is true
you need to point fingers in the right direction meaning the author
as stated in that so called e-mail you posted

Coming on this board is not good PR if you are really associated with the
CPHL
As far as I am concerned I wouldn't give you the time of day for what you are pulling on this board Trying to start a League on a message board are you??

This is suppose to be a hockey message board to discuss hockey I have not seen any posts talking about games, playoffs

it's just been a board to slam bam and not really any discussions like other boards I go to This isn't a fun place to be for sure
This all smells to me , in my opinion

[Made in Canada]

Bigmike -

You can take what I posted as fact or fiction at your own leisure but I would be more than happy to forward you the e-mails as sent to the sdn and recieved by the CPHL. Please notice that in the previous posts there is no ill will toward Mr. Kilbreath or his IIHL group. I do not know him personally and am only vaguely familiar with his product. With that said, the message I posted was merely a statement of fact and that fact is the CPHL and the IIHL are in no way related. As for not answering to Mr. Kilbreath privately, there wasn't time to. Before the original e-mail had even been completely reviewed there was already a release saying they were arranging a partnership, and that is false. I assure you there was no intention for any of this to be public knowledge, and would have never become public knowledge if not for the report on sdn. Sadly it became public, and I certainly regret that.

It is clear you are a fan of the IIHL and that is excellent both for you and the IIHL group, wether they have no teams, 6 teams, or 40 teams next year the CPHL wishes you and them the best of luck.

[hkyfanforlife]

Made in Canada, first of all seeing that you are not Mike Killbreath I wish you luck in what you are trying to do. You cetainly have your work cut out for you but good luck. I know you have to be politically correct as is necessary when talking to the public about any business endeavor. However, with that said, I believe with what has been written here you can see what you would be getting yourself into if you were to get involved with MK. He loves to create press releases with false information. Loves to blame everyone else, and you know what he almost makes a believer out of you. Deadlines come out of no where for events no one knows about. If what he sais is true, why aren't bills paid, players paid, etc. You mean to tell me that for the past years every endeavor he has tried fell just because he got involved with the wrong people. No no no no no, come on, it spells trouble.

[BigMike]

you are a fan of the IIHL
I never got to see a game
How can I be a fan of the IIHL??


Why don't you take the editors suggestion and write up a statement and have it published that would have been a reasonble thing to do
At least they were open to you for that instead making a splash on this board
I have been in hockey since I was six years old I'll let my brother take it over and hopes he gets a fair shake
the folks on the web site you are trying to knock here has helped us out so it's very unfair of anyone here to say anything they do not know about
they do care about the players, families and the fans. My folks wouldn't know how I was doing in hockey if it wasn't for them. They were the key to the communication and you can not put a price on that

If you really look at this board you do not get many posters in hockey here can you figure out why??

[Big Chris]

Once again Killbreath returns to the board to start arguments to take the focus off of the fact that HE BELONGS IN JAIL!

Again, players, managers, owners, show some sack and charge this son of a b!tch. He preys on young players' dreams and steals their money. This man is a fraud, a cheat and a liar. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR ELSE HE WILL KEEP ON DOING THIS.

[BigMike]

Who is directing this conversation to you MR Nose
again this board is nothing but trouble as usual

knocking things you no nothing about Chris
all over a published story
if it's not true than a statement needs to published at least that opportunity was given to the person involved but chose to come on this board and start this nonsense

source of the article was Mike K so He should be the target and no one else

Go figure

[Big Chris]

Don't drop the soap killdreams...

[shinny19]

Well I have been reading this message board for months now, and I believe I get more pissed off everytime i read here. I too was part of the scandelous IIHL scheme, that landed me nothing but spent money and wasted time. Big Mike, sorry tubby , but you are Killbreath, and if your not, then who are you, it's funny that you deny being MK, but you will never state who you really are, where your from etc. You know why everyone knows it is your incompetent a$$, because your the only one on this BOARD that infacts supports the IIHL, well in that case the whole WORLD you idiot. Who in there right mind would actually support that league stupid! So get a grip idiot, and pay me back my money chump, make it cash, fresh bills, you dont need another bounced check on your wife's credit punk! You owe me, gas money to Harbor Springs for "tryout's", hotel money, and add a couple of plane tickets on there as well!!! LOL, there was probably more money spent by the player's for everything than the actual league, what a joke!!

[hockeyfan]

thanks for your support peet, when you used to call me at my home for advice. contrary to what has been reported here and alsewhere, i was and still am half owner of the predators, that will come out in court. peet, you of all people whould know the battles i had with tom. all will come out in the wash, and i wont be the one paying it will be tom. as for "hockeyfan" the e-mail is leashy for that account and is toms 16 yr old daughter who knows nothing other than what her lying father tells her. he is responsible for her actions legally sense she is a minor, and this is about to get dirty. thanks again peet.
yeah am tom's daughter, and if what i said was illegal, then why dont we arrest or charge everyone on this sight??? dont be hypacritical now...

[BigMike]

Big Mike, sorry tubby , but you are Killbreath, and if your not, then who are you, it's funny that you deny being MK, but you will never state who you really are, where your from etc. You know why everyone knows it is your incompetent a$$, because your the only one on this BOARD that infacts supports the IIHL, well in that case the whole WORLD you idiot. Who in there right mind would actually support that league stupid! So get a grip idiot, and pay me back my money chump, make it cash, fresh bills, you dont need another bounced check on your wife's credit punk! You owe me, gas money to Harbor Springs for "tryout's", hotel money, and add a couple of plane tickets on there as well!!! LOL, there was probably more money spent by the player's for everything than the actual league, what a joke!!
Are you blind??I have disclosed all you need to know in the previous post and who ever said I supported the wrong doing

take a hike and that is very mild to what you idiots here are ranting about
the problem has not been caused by me, my brother got screwed as well for your information

Pay you ?? my brother deserves a check as well
No balls I guess to go to the REAL SOURCE
AS WE ARE DOING,
ARE YOU??
You know not what you are saying and I am not Mike K so you all stuff that.
that is BigChris nonsense you believe that truck driver who couldn't get a coaching job

why not look elsewhere Chris. Or your too busy here stiring up nothing but trash

You should be greatful it turned out the way it did t you didn't get burned like the rest of us did
Yes it effects me because of my brother
You weren't hurt by any of of this

[shinny19]

Oh your brother was hurt....right, you did'nt seem to find a way to bring that in to play right around Jan. or Dec. when everyone else was getting dicked over did you?? Now all of the sudden you have a brother.... riiiight. Alright buddy, whatever 'YOU' say goes! OH and what team did he play for by the way, I am sure i can remember his first name, since i pretty much knew all of the 20 total rostered kids on all 5 teams.

[BigMike]

Oh your brother was hurt....right, you did'nt seem to find a way to bring that in to play right around Jan. or Dec.

yes I did bring it up
and why am I getting the 20 questions here
that is bullsh*&
I do not have to prove a damn thing and my brother played on the Snipers for you infomation
and that is all I will tell you


by the way how many guys in this world are named Mike??

enough of this bullsh&&
thing is players came from out of state and that is a down fall when it come to going after the officials of the league to get your money the pay isn't high enough for atterney fees
so we got a royal screwing
maybe that was the plan not to pay the players to begin with makes sense after the fact. Like I said the whole thing smells period
by the way FHL has 20 games lined up so I found out maybe the players can check it out SDN received infomation about it

We are done with Michigan and will wait to see what happens in hockey next season

[Big Chris]

Time for me to translate Killbreath-ese into English again. MK just can't speak plain English.

Big Mike, sorry tubby , but you are Killbreath, and if your not, then who are you, it's funny that you deny being MK, but you will never state who you really are, where your from etc. You know why everyone knows it is your incompetent a$$, because your the only one on this BOARD that infacts supports the IIHL, well in that case the whole WORLD you idiot. Who in there right mind would actually support that league stupid! So get a grip idiot, and pay me back my money chump, make it cash, fresh bills, you dont need another bounced check on your wife's credit punk! You owe me, gas money to Harbor Springs for "tryout's", hotel money, and add a couple of plane tickets on there as well!!! LOL, there was probably more money spent by the player's for everything than the actual league, what a joke!!
Are you blind??I have disclosed all you need to know in the previous post and who ever said I supported the wrong doing

All we need to know eh? Sounds like Killbreath's legal double-talk to me. Reveal who you are if you aren't Killbreath. We know it's you MK so stop humiliating yourself like this.

take a hike and that is very mild to what you idiots here are ranting about
the problem has not been caused by me, my brother got screwed as well for your information

Your grammer is as horrible as ever and calling us all idiots is standard Killbreath banter. This post is almost like you WANT to admit who you really are even though we already know.

Pay you ?? my brother deserves a check as well
No balls I guess to go to the REAL SOURCE
AS WE ARE DOING,
ARE YOU??

It is easy to go to the real source for you Killbreath, all you have to do is look in the mirror.


You know not what you are saying and I am not Mike K so you all stuff that.
that is BigChris nonsense you believe that truck driver who couldn't get a coaching job

If this isn't undeniable proof that BM is Mike Killbreath I don't know what is. He has frequently accused me of being a truck driver and used this story to take the heat off of himself. He stated this to Tim Pappa and through various assumed names on this board and it's predecessor on OSC.


why not look elsewhere Chris. Or your too busy here stiring up nothing but trash

Why don't you stop conning innocent kids and stealing money?

You should be greatful it turned out the way it did t you didn't get burned like the rest of us did
Yes it effects me because of my brother
You weren't hurt by any of of this

My heart bleeds for you Killdreams. I cannot wait to see you go down.