ABA Blue North Conference Off To Great Start and still Going Strong

[ABA06er]

Everyone knew that hammond and toledo would not last from day one , they had been written off before the season starts. As far as Montreal they seem to playing every game ( not winning any of them) but still playing.

*Then you have Vermont , Rochester, CapeCod, Buffalo, And Quebec all drawing really good crowds and them as well not missing any games , how come no one is talking about how great the Blue Conference North is doing ?

Instead you are picking out teams to tell us that are having bad news now ? They were written off long ago.

The Blue Conference North has star player power that is better then in anyother minor sports leaque, Its time to stop bringing up teams that have been dead for months and start talking about the Blue North the best conference in minor leaque basketball.

Kueth Duany of Buffalo & Lazurus Simms of Rochester two former famous Syraucse University stars are leading the pack of talent then you have Vermont loaded with talent , cape cod with former Boston College eagles , its no wonder this division is taking off.

Why waste your breath on the "Hammond Rollers" ? Fans in the North east are loving the ABA ball being played and its showing up in attendence and all games are being played .........So wheres the Love on that ?

Here is an news paper article out of Rochester ........ it should sum up the buzz in this region and rightfully , so !

Team News » Rochester Razorsharks » TASTE THE ABA & THE RAZORSHARKS - IT'S THE REAL DEAL

TASTE THE ABA & THE RAZORSHARKS - IT'S THE REAL DEAL
Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Reprint of an article by Amin Alexander ChoukairiRochester, NY -- So you wanna keep comparing them to the NBA and all its hype? Fine - let's get that over with right quick before we get to the meat of the matter. So the media coverage isn't quite there yet - no NBC, TNT, ESPN or NBA TV doubleheaders every week. So the players and coaches aren't multi-gosillionaires walking around with fat-cat endorsement checks. So the courtside stands aren't filled with the likes of Jack Nicholson, Spike Lee, Denzel Washington or whoever else. Fine - but you know what I say to that? "Pff! Big deal. That ain't got nothing to do with nothing."

Ladies and gents, boys and girls, basketball fans everywhere - believe me when I tell you that I have seen it all: the NBA, European leagues and beyond. I also recently got my first taste of ABA basketball when the Rochester Razor Sharks took on the visiting Montreal Matrix on Nov 29th at Blue Cross Arena in Rochester, NY. So believe me when I say to you that this is the real deal. Welcome to the red-white-and blue American Basketball Association and the reigning champs, the Rochester Razor Sharks.

I'm talking true-to-life, in-your-face, salt-of-the-earth basketball warriors leaving it all out on the court. These die-hard professionals, whose salaries and benefits are hardly dissimilar from those of every other five-figure income American family, do not weather the mental and physical pains, toils, trials and tribulations of their trade for wealth, fame or mass adulation. They play in the moment and remain in constant pursuit of perfection and the inherent glory of playing it to the bone for as long as they can. In doing so, they render themselves immortal in the pantheon of basketball gods and virtually any other universal standard of authentic human achievement and self-expression.

Oh, and by the way, they're really good at it too.

Indeed, I'm talking razzle-dazzle ball-handling, lightening-quick double and triple screen'n'rolls, high-flying dunks and raining three-pointers that global warming couldn't stop. Man, by the end of the first quarter, they had me thinking I could jam! The natural flow of the Razor Sharks' game last Nov 29th was infectious as it seemed to gather a momentum of its own. One cannot help but stand in awe of the energy emanating from what can only be described as an operatic display of organic chemistry as each player's individual role rapidly comes into evidence.

Meet Lazarus Sims, a 34-year-old 6'9" veteran guard/assistant coach out of Syracuse whose presence is felt almost immediately after tip-off. Most certainly the inspirational guru of the pack, Sims seems to glide on ice as he brings the ball up time and again with an uncanny ability to read, freeze and work the opposing team's defense. Meet Keith Friel, a 29-year-old 6'4" guard out of Virginia. What can I say? If Sims was Butch Cassidy, Friel would be the Sundance Kid. The team's top scorer at almost 20ppg, Friel is patient, constantly mobile and the only thing that might curb his shooting is a blindfold. Of course, it takes a team, folks - including Alvin Jefferson and James Reaves on the block, jamming it home and gutting it out on the boards with almost reckless abandon. Last, but certainly not least, veteran coach Rod Baker, is the strategist and architect behind the current champs. He, of all people, knows what kind of players he's got and wastes no time bringing out the best in them.

The next RazorShark's home game is coming up on Thursday, Dec 7th. The air in Blue Cross Arena is electric - bringing out a fusion of old-school basketball fundamentals and new-age talent displayed before what I like to call "real America." You don't need to be a Hollywood star or a bigwig VIP to witness greatness in motion and the thrill of authentic American entertainment. You're not settling for less than anything. This is it. ABA basketball and Mr. Orest Hrywnak's Rochester RazorSharks are the real deal.

I, for one, am already hooked and I'm not going to miss it for anything. Try it out. You'll see that I'm right. See y'all out there!

(Comment from Joe Newman/ABA CEO: Thank you Mr. Choukairi for capturing the spirit and soul of the ABA. Your article is wonderful and greatly appreciated. What has been captured in Rochester is what we are trying to do throughout the US, Mexico and Canada - and it is very exciting to know that it is happening.)

[sportsguy12]

Everyone knew that hammond and toledo would not last from day one , they had been written off before the season starts. As far as Montreal they seem to playing every game ( not winning any of them) but still playing.

*Then you have Vermont , Rochester, CapeCod, Buffalo, And Quebec all drawing really good crowds and them as well not missing any games , how come no one is talking about how great the Blue Conference North is doing ?

Instead you are picking out teams to tell us that are having bad news now ? They were written off long ago.

The Blue Conference North has star player power that is better then in anyother minor sports leaque, Its time to stop bringing up teams that have been dead for months and start talking about the Blue North the best conference in minor leaque basketball.

Kueth Duany of Buffalo & Lazurus Simms of Rochester two former famous Syraucse University stars are leading the pack of talent then you have Vermont loaded with talent , cape cod with former Boston College eagles , its no wonder this division is taking off.

Why waste your breath on the "Hammond Rollers" ? Fans in the North east are loving the ABA ball being played and its showing up in attendence and all games are being played .........So wheres the Love on that ?

Here is an news paper article out of Rochester ........ it should sum up the buzz in this region and rightfully , so !

Team News » Rochester Razorsharks » TASTE THE ABA & THE RAZORSHARKS - IT'S THE REAL DEAL

TASTE THE ABA & THE RAZORSHARKS - IT'S THE REAL DEAL
Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Reprint of an article by Amin Alexander ChoukairiRochester, NY -- So you wanna keep comparing them to the NBA and all its hype? Fine - let's get that over with right quick before we get to the meat of the matter. So the media coverage isn't quite there yet - no NBC, TNT, ESPN or NBA TV doubleheaders every week. So the players and coaches aren't multi-gosillionaires walking around with fat-cat endorsement checks. So the courtside stands aren't filled with the likes of Jack Nicholson, Spike Lee, Denzel Washington or whoever else. Fine - but you know what I say to that? "Pff! Big deal. That ain't got nothing to do with nothing."

Ladies and gents, boys and girls, basketball fans everywhere - believe me when I tell you that I have seen it all: the NBA, European leagues and beyond. I also recently got my first taste of ABA basketball when the Rochester Razor Sharks took on the visiting Montreal Matrix on Nov 29th at Blue Cross Arena in Rochester, NY. So believe me when I say to you that this is the real deal. Welcome to the red-white-and blue American Basketball Association and the reigning champs, the Rochester Razor Sharks.

I'm talking true-to-life, in-your-face, salt-of-the-earth basketball warriors leaving it all out on the court. These die-hard professionals, whose salaries and benefits are hardly dissimilar from those of every other five-figure income American family, do not weather the mental and physical pains, toils, trials and tribulations of their trade for wealth, fame or mass adulation. They play in the moment and remain in constant pursuit of perfection and the inherent glory of playing it to the bone for as long as they can. In doing so, they render themselves immortal in the pantheon of basketball gods and virtually any other universal standard of authentic human achievement and self-expression.

Oh, and by the way, they're really good at it too.

Indeed, I'm talking razzle-dazzle ball-handling, lightening-quick double and triple screen'n'rolls, high-flying dunks and raining three-pointers that global warming couldn't stop. Man, by the end of the first quarter, they had me thinking I could jam! The natural flow of the Razor Sharks' game last Nov 29th was infectious as it seemed to gather a momentum of its own. One cannot help but stand in awe of the energy emanating from what can only be described as an operatic display of organic chemistry as each player's individual role rapidly comes into evidence.

Meet Lazarus Sims, a 34-year-old 6'9" veteran guard/assistant coach out of Syracuse whose presence is felt almost immediately after tip-off. Most certainly the inspirational guru of the pack, Sims seems to glide on ice as he brings the ball up time and again with an uncanny ability to read, freeze and work the opposing team's defense. Meet Keith Friel, a 29-year-old 6'4" guard out of Virginia. What can I say? If Sims was Butch Cassidy, Friel would be the Sundance Kid. The team's top scorer at almost 20ppg, Friel is patient, constantly mobile and the only thing that might curb his shooting is a blindfold. Of course, it takes a team, folks - including Alvin Jefferson and James Reaves on the block, jamming it home and gutting it out on the boards with almost reckless abandon. Last, but certainly not least, veteran coach Rod Baker, is the strategist and architect behind the current champs. He, of all people, knows what kind of players he's got and wastes no time bringing out the best in them.

The next RazorShark's home game is coming up on Thursday, Dec 7th. The air in Blue Cross Arena is electric - bringing out a fusion of old-school basketball fundamentals and new-age talent displayed before what I like to call "real America." You don't need to be a Hollywood star or a bigwig VIP to witness greatness in motion and the thrill of authentic American entertainment. You're not settling for less than anything. This is it. ABA basketball and Mr. Orest Hrywnak's Rochester RazorSharks are the real deal.

I, for one, am already hooked and I'm not going to miss it for anything. Try it out. You'll see that I'm right. See y'all out there!

(Comment from Joe Newman/ABA CEO: Thank you Mr. Choukairi for capturing the spirit and soul of the ABA. Your article is wonderful and greatly appreciated. What has been captured in Rochester is what we are trying to do throughout the US, Mexico and Canada - and it is very exciting to know that it is happening.)

So just because half a dozen teams aren't screwing people, we should ignore those who are. Whatever buddy. The ABA deserves NO attention. Nada! Nil! None!

After this post, I say posters should give them just what they deserve ... nothing. Ignore them totally ... and watch as they ride off into the sunset to never be heard from again (we can only hope). Cya Uncle Joe!

PS - Hopefully the teams that are doing well will wise up and join a more reputable league in the near future.

Adios!

[preeths]

Let's say that six teams are doing okay. That's 12 percent of the league. If the league can get that up to 30-40 percent, they'll have a start.

[Pounder]

Do you ever see other leagues touting a less than 100% retention rate a month into the season?

Really, honestly, share the drugs. Doing so makes you less delusional and the rest of us a little high.

[b-ball31]

Let's say that six teams are doing okay. That's 12 percent of the league. If the league can get that up to 30-40 percent, they'll have a start.

There are more than six teams doing well with crowds. Rochester, Maryland, Buffalo, Vermont, Quebec, Strong Island, Cape Cod, Wilmington, Jacksonville, Arkansas, Hollywood, Texas....

Granted that is 12 teams, representing about 23% of the league. There may be others that are doing well, but I just haven't read about it.

I disagree with some on this board that says the ABA deserves no credit or attention. They have made some changes, brought in some new management, gotten some national media attention (BDSSP, and SI) and seem to be headed in the right direction.

Where does some of the people on this board's hatred come from?

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

It's not hatred; it is morbid curiousity, combined with the ineveitable self-fulfilling prophecy of failure every season.

Yes, there are teams doing well. There are ALWAYS teams with some level of success. However, it is the flotsam and jetsam that make up the rest of the league that are its annual downfall.

What real change have the new leadership brought to the league? Heck, it's December 7, and the damn league website still fails to list Doyle or Salley in their 'leadership' capacity? There are still no stats, little to no real information, and a repeat of every season this league has ever had. The big talk about kicking out teams if they can't cut it is just hot air. Teams historically drop each year anyway, and if a team truly isn't ready, they should have been tossed before the season without bastardizing the schedule.

Yes, the Northeast for the most part has been strong - although, according to the article about Montreal, they may not be paying players and may not be around much longer (http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/sports/story.html?id=09b69647-e680-4aca-9131-479e5268b614).

The ABA should just stay in one region; solidify its organization, business acumen, and cash flow - THEN go to other regions.

Owners who have left the league rip the Newman business model right and left - next up, Denise Pulphus. Toledo gets suspended now for not having a venue. The seaosn is over one month old! This didn't occur to anyone in the ABA kitchen cabinet that maybe they weren't ready to play?

The impact on the Northeast is yet to be felt, but rest assured it is lurking. Once Rochester gets tired of paying for another opponent to travel to play, or the Frost Heaves are forced to cancel a game (or worse, play a game against a Toledo Ice - type squad with gray t-shirts and masking tape numbers, the two strongest links in the chain will finish out the year and leave. As it is now, the chain that is the ABA is crumbling all around them.

The Hollywood Fame has had how many 'sellouts' at their games? They were guaranteed - both home and away, we were assured by Joe - but haven't quite lived up to the hype. Games are being played before ntimate gatherings of family and friends - and most likely, many of the 100 or so "fans" in attendance don;t even pay to get in the building.

And it is laughable that Joe himself is looking to secure a Toledo franchise (now to be called the Rens) to play 13 home games after January. Hmm - no ownership, no revenue stream, no advertising, no venue, no organizational structure, no uniforms, no players - the recipe for success. Let's see Joe bankroll the team out of his ample pockets.

More teams will disappear. It's not a matter of if, but when...

[preeths]

Really, what have the crowds in Maryland, Buffalo, Strong Island, Cape Cod, Wilmington, Jacksonville, the Arkansas cities, Hollywood and Texas been like? I heard from one team just today that was very disappointed with the crowd they saw in Texas, and I thought the Arkansas teams were hovering in the 200-300 range. Strong Island's been in the 100-200 range, and Hollywood has not yet played a home game, so I'm not sure how they made your list.

Look, no one can fault anyone else for being a fan of an ABA team. If that's what's in your market, who can blame you? But it is disingenuous to state that more than a handful of teams, tops, are successful off the court, at least at the moment.

[Sam Hill]

There are more than six teams doing well with crowds. Rochester, Maryland, Buffalo, Vermont, Quebec, Strong Island, Cape Cod, Wilmington, Jacksonville, Arkansas, Hollywood, Texas....

Got numbers on that?

Strong Island's GM has admitted that they're averaging about 100 or so fans per game. That's hardly "doing well with crowds." I don't know which of the two Arkansas teams you're referencing, but they're averaging a few hundred people a game. And Hollywood isn't drawing flies.

What gives you the idea that anyone other than Rochester is doing well?

Where does some of the people on this board's hatred come from?

From way back. Some of us just hate to see ignorant and/or dishonest people prosper. Some hate the idea that Newman and his league are scorching the earth for anyone trying to actually do this the right way.

Some of us have been pointing out the ABA's foibles before they happen for years and years and they keep doing the same exact stupid stuff. They keep letting moronic owners with no money and less experience into the league and, of course, their teams end up folding (or being "suspended" - yeah, right).

And through it all, Joe keeps yelling at anyone who dares point out the problems and/or ignores the problems and/or blatantly lies his ancient ass off.

[ABA06er]

The fact that Vermont is averaging a sell out or close to it every home game and has one of the best records in the ABA tells me Sam Hill that they are doing just fine ..........

[Sam Hill]

Fine, fair enough. But Strong Island isn't. Arkansas isn't. Hollywood isn't. Quebec may be getting crowds close to capacity, but capacity is 900 and that ain't gonna pay all the bills.

The ABA has, realistically, maybe 10 organizations even remotely worth a darn. Take your pick.

[ABA06er]

Only 10 teams worth a darn ???

How many does the CBA have? you know seeing as how they only have 8 teams in the entire leaque and 4 of them happened to be owned tby the same company ?

Anytime you have a leaque with 50 plus teams you are going to have the majority be unstable but as long as your core of strong teams is really strong which the ABA has , then the leaque is fine ........

Especially when your core of strong teams is 10 + teams when other leaques such as the CBA dont even have that many teams in the entire leaque....

[Fells]

I don't know, maybe I am a homer at heart, but Vermont has to be one of the class franchises in an otherwise miserable league. Yes, they play in the smallest venues in the league, but they come close to selling out every night. The fans are into the games and the style of play, and I have heard nothing but great things about the experience fans have. Players sign autographs for every kid, let them shoot around with them, coach them, and are giving this area a team they can grab onto.

The marketing has been outstanding, the owner is easily accessible, and even the radio coverage is above average. (I can't believe I am saying that about a competitor, but it is the truth.)

When it comes to the league as a whole, some have mentioned the idea of regionalizing(sp?) the league into one geographic area, which I think is a good idea. Concentrate on one area, build it, solidify the product, and THEN expand. Conduct background checks on prospective owners, make sure they have a marketing plan in place, a fan base, etc, and then put into the league's by-laws that in order for a franchise to be awarded, the team must gain approval from a board of directors. This should not be based on the franchise fee check clearing; there should be a solid financial backing, money in the bank, arenas secured, etc. This is what I see as one of the major problems with the ABA is the fact they do not do any of this.

Joe Newmann is a problem, and is a major one. If you point out a problem with the league, it is not addressed, one is simply ridiculed and told they are an idiot, moron, etc. The PR job being done by Mr. Newmann is simply horrible and will bring down the league in a hurry. That is why many of us, including myself, have so many problems with the league as a whole. Great concept, but too many teams folding, and what I see as some of the worst management at the league level that I have ever seen.

[Chuck the Writer]

Only 10 teams worth a darn ???

How many does the CBA have? you know seeing as how they only have 8 teams in the entire leaque and 4 of them happened to be owned tby the same company ?

Anytime you have a leaque with 50 plus teams you are going to have the majority be unstable but as long as your core of strong teams is really strong which the ABA has , then the leaque is fine ........

Especially when your core of strong teams is 10 + teams when other leaques such as the CBA dont even have that many teams in the entire leaque....

Again you make the mistake of quality over quantity. All eight teams in the CBA will finish their season. All eight teams in the CBA will play their regularly scheduled games - on time - with fans knowing WELL IN ADVANCE of who's playing whom and where. The CBA posts their game stats every night, along with player stats and season benchmarks, on their homepage. The CBA also offers the DakStats program online, so fans can follow their favorite team online through the cbahoopsonline.com page.

Can the ABA do that?

Yeah, some teams may have growing pains in the CBA and might stumble here and there along the way, but the CBA is still strong and will continue long after Unca Joe has swindled his last money mark.

[Sam Hill]

Anytime you have a leaque with 50 plus teams you are going to have the majority be unstable but as long as your core of strong teams is really strong which the ABA has , then the leaque is fine ........


Uh, no.

You're only as strong as your weakest links.

If the majority of a league is unstable (your word - majority), the league is unstable.

And the ABA's "core" isn't really all that strong, now is it? Okay, Rochester. Who else? Vermont? That's two. Who else?

The league is run by an idiot and the majority of the owners are either idiots or hopelessly naive.

[rams80]

Anytime you have a leaque with 50 plus teams you are going to have the majority be unstable but as long as your core of strong teams is really strong which the ABA has , then the leaque is fine ........



What kind of crazy logic is that? Numbers mean nothing; stability means everything. If you have teams dropping right and left the stable teams will most likely get fed up and leave (if they don't lose fans over the whole "no game tonight folks" thing). Then you're left with instability.

BTW-It's league, not "leaque". "Leaque" is what the ABA does with franchises this time of year.

[preeths]

For some reason, some of us just can't get past Rochester and Vermont. For the record, even the ABA's harshest critics see Rochester as a success and Vermont as doing as well as it can. No one is arguing about those two teams. It's the rest of the ABA, that remaining paltry 96 percent of the league, that concerns so many. Let's address them.

Chuck the Writer and Sam Hill are right. Way too many people make the mistake of choosing quantity over quality when judging a league's strength. This isn't a restaurant chain where one location can go out of business, or do a poor job, with little to no impact on other locations of the same franchise. If one basketball franchise goes out of business, fails to travel to games or shows up with just six guys it pulled off the street, it has a direct impact on another franchise. One franchise can do everything right, only to see another destroy all its efforts. The chain is only as strong as the weakest links.

[bdaly]

The CBA posts their game stats every night, along with player stats and season benchmarks, on their homepage.
Well, eventually. It's noon on Friday (EST) and the box scores for yesterday's games are still coming up as error pages. I've noticed this other days too. They are a little slow this year and they post no news articles on the website. But, it's better than what the ABA has done this year--not deliver at all on the box scores and stats as of now. But, the CBA's web presence still needs to make some strides to be at all competitive with the D-League.

[gonzo13]

Only 10 teams worth a darn ???
Anytime you have a leaque with 50 plus teams you are going to have the majority be unstable but as long as your core of strong teams is really strong which the ABA has , then the leaque is fine ........


If you have a league with 50 plus teams and only 39 (for the sake of argument) are stable, then you should have had a league with only 39 teams. When did the "as long as most/some of the teams are ok, everything is hunky-dory" theory take over? It isn't ok to have one, un, uno, ein....ONE SINGULAR unstable team! Just because most of the teams make it through the season does NOT mean that the league is in good shape.

[Chuck the Writer]

BTW-It's league, not "leaque". "Leaque" is what the ABA does with franchises this time of year.

You know what's interesting... there's been another poster who kept mispelling league as leaque... hmm... A post from "ABA Potential Owwner":

The ABA is a Great Leaque it accomadates to team's needs. Close travel schedule due to the large number of teams nation wide, this would only be possible by this being the best minor leaque basketball leaque in America. I will soon own a ABA franchise and this bad mouth smashing coming from "ken the Moron Steelhead Fan" who most likely is so ugly that he has to shave his *** and walk backwards so he looks better ....wait he doesent even have to do that because he most likley is a lifetime loser who will never leave his computer screen alone , so I hope that relationship goes somewhere fast and in the mean time give a real leaque the ABA a break.


Future ABA Owner, saying best luck to the Hammond Rollers

Yep... and also... from "Corning Tax Payer"

People like chuck the writer are not smart enough to realize that with the close surrounding cities including the largest one , Elmira who apparently is going to be running the team on tonights 6pm and 11pm news is not aware that when they are inculded they actually have a very large draw of people.
As far as Ms. Deline goes I did look her up and she really did win 2nd in a nation wide author contest and if you actually look up her site you would see that her book is about to be published by a publisher in NYC. Finger Lakes Gaming and Race Track is the official name of the Racino and to my knowledge it is the most sucessfull racino in all of New York State which has many. If she is doing the accounting for a company that handles millions upon millions of $ each day I would have to feel confident in her running a minor leaque basketball teams finances , some one with her expereince is what most teams in this leaque lack. Before you bash people do your research cause you just make yourself look like a fool. As far as Schutz goes I as well do not know much on him other then I did find some old basketball articles on him from games against Tompkins Cortland CC and Canton State University from 2003 and his basketball talent is nothing short of amazing. This is one from that same news paper in which the story was printed it is a 21 point 10 rebound performance in which the head coach praises Schutz on his shooting ability.

http://www.the-leader.com/articles/2...s/sports02.txt

So to sum it up we have a accounting wiz who runs a multimillion dollar a day companys finances and a former junior college basketball stand out as co-owners of the team in Corning, NY , I think knowing this should open the eyes to many critics , of course we wouldnt expect chuck the writers eyes to open anytime soon though

So just like the ABA creates a multitude of teams and claims that quantity is superior to quality (CBA and D-League), thus do we have three "unrelated" posts with the word "leaque" in them... could they have been written by the same person?

Or maybe it's one of those things that make you go hmmm...

[ABA06er]

And you have never mispelled a word in your life? It happens....


Could you just be upset Chuck because the "CBA" is getting weaker and weaker and the ABA keeps getting stronger........

Put a fork in the CBA they are DUNZO :)

But thanks for correcting 3 posters miss spellings , If I took the time to write about every poster who misspelled the same word I would be here for years, but maybe just maybe I then would be a great writer like "Chuck The Writer"


Ps. I read an article in which the Pitt Explosion are averaging 300 people per game....... add them to the list of CBA teams about to fold ......

Great LEAGUE YOU HAVE CHUCK.... only 8 teams to start .......what 2 or 3 to finish?????????

[Chuck the Writer]

And you have never mispelled a word in your life? It happens....

It's "misspelled" with two S's. You're on a roll, son...

Could you just be upset Chuck because the "CBA" is getting weaker and weaker and the ABA keeps getting stronger........

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Oh wait, I gotta read that again.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Thanks man, that was the funniest thing written all day. The CBA hasn't had a team fold in mid-season in over a decade. If the ABA can go two weeks without a folded or relocated franchise, it's considered a miracle.

Put a fork in the CBA they are DUNZO :)

Right. Hey, why don't you buy me tickets to that Hammond Rollers / Toledo Ice contest, son? By the way, if the ABA was a "strong league," how come they haven't had a single player get an NBA call-up in the past three years? Just asking is all, if the ABA is that strong a league.

But thanks for correcting 3 posters miss spellings , If I took the time to write about every poster who misspelled the same word I would be here for years, but maybe just maybe I then would be a great writer like "Chuck The Writer"

It's not three different posters - perhaps it's more like three different posting addresses, because it's very unlikely that three different people would make the same mistakes in spelling. Plus, we haven't heard from the Corning Tax Payer in a long long time - just around the same time that you started posting. And both of you misspelled league as "leaque." Coincidence? Hmm...

Ps. I read an article in which the Pitt Explosion are averaging 300 people per game....... add them to the list of CBA teams about to fold ......

Son, you need to recheck your figures. The announced attendance at Mellon Arena for the ONE game the Xplosion have played so far this season was 1183. Whether or not that includes season tickets or warm bodies is immaterial. The fact of the matter is, the Xplosion are doing much better in the CBA than they were last year. They don't have to worry about the wrong team showing up (if at all), and they don't have to worry about getting jerked around in the schedule or the ubiquitous "power rankings" propounded by Unca Joe loading all the available data into a TRS-80 and waiting until the cassette datatape loads whatever BASIC program he uses for calculating the "power rankings." Besides, 1183 in attendance was better than the attendance at the Xplosion's ABA home games.

Great LEAGUE YOU HAVE CHUCK.... only 8 teams to start .......what 2 or 3 to finish?????????

Nope. All 8 CBA teams will finish the season, then four will go to the playoffs, then two will go to the finals. It's not that hard to figure out, son.

[preeths]

And you have never mispelled a word in your life? It happens....


Could you just be upset Chuck because the "CBA" is getting weaker and weaker and the ABA keeps getting stronger........

Put a fork in the CBA they are DUNZO :)

But thanks for correcting 3 posters miss spellings , If I took the time to write about every poster who misspelled the same word I would be here for years, but maybe just maybe I then would be a great writer like "Chuck The Writer"


Ps. I read an article in which the Pitt Explosion are averaging 300 people per game....... add them to the list of CBA teams about to fold ......

Great LEAGUE YOU HAVE CHUCK.... only 8 teams to start .......what 2 or 3 to finish?????????

I fail to see how the strength or weakness of the CBA impacts the ABA, especially during the season. The strength of the ABA is what is being debated here. Deflecting the arguments will not make the ABA any stronger, and is a transparent attempt to take attention away from the fact you don't seem able to counter any of the arguments made here.

[ABA06er]

No arguments ???

Pitt Explosion from the CBA , has had its attendence issues in the local newspapers in Pitt , I dont need to make an argument for the CBA getting weak , news papers are doing a fine job on there own...

unless drawing 300 people to CBA games is what they stand for...


so an 8 team league with one team cleraly on the way out and 4 other teams speculated to be out as well.........

This is why the CBA is DUNZO , I dont need to argue the CBA is doing a fine job of arguing for me


good day......

[skippy]

Don't you guys think all the leagues are bad this year?

I do.

Can't even follow the NBDL, the good players will all be gone for Europe in a few months anyway, and the attitudes of the "NBA" guys {management} don't play in the sticks. No grass roots marketing here/just corporate greed.
I think we'll see several teams relocate after this year, as I've already heard grumbling about venues, lack of market support, etc.

The CBA talent level looks similiar to the ABA right now. I hope that Apex Sportstainment {god, I hate that Sportstainment garbage} and the TESG group are stable or else we could lose the league.

The ABA continues to amaze and wonder with their suckiness. This league needs to set up regional directors to oversee each area. This will never happen, as it would involve the sharing of governance and monies.

I don't even know what to make of what the USBL will be.


Good job basketball executives, you've lost me.

[Sam Hill]

ABA getting stronger. That's the best laugh I've had today, thanks.

[Pounder]

No arguments ???

Pitt Explosion from the CBA , has had its attendence issues in the local newspapers in Pitt , I dont need to make an argument for the CBA getting weak , news papers are doing a fine job on there own...

unless drawing 300 people to CBA games is what they stand for...


so an 8 team league with one team cleraly on the way out and 4 other teams speculated to be out as well.........

This is why the CBA is DUNZO , I dont need to argue the CBA is doing a fine job of arguing for me


good day......

HI CORNING!

Or is it Joe?

Enough deflections.

[skippy]

This is like arguing over who has the worst leukemia.

Love,
Logic

[TEN]

Out of all the drivel in that article the one thing that jumped out at me was this little tidbit.....

6'9 guard Lazarus Sims?

He's about 6'3....He used to play for me...

That shot the credibility of the story for me!

[TEN]

Anytime you have a leaque with 50 plus teams you are going to have the majority be unstable but as long as your core of strong teams is really strong which the ABA has , then the leaque is fine ........


Wow...that reasoning is totally off the hook!

[nksports]

I don't even know what to make of what the USBL will be.

The East will be shaky. The West will be in slightly better shape with most of the teams just getting by. Which is kind of a shame because the level of play the past few years that I've been following it has been pretty strong, especially in the west.
It sounded like Nebraska wasn't coming back, but that may have changed. Dodge City is stable. Oklahoma is in better shape than it has been. Salina got an infusion of cash, but it looks like will have some new people in charge. Get those four stabilized, then add between two to six more teams in the KS, Neb., Okla., Mo., Colo., region and you have a league. My personal candidates would be Wichita (play at Newman), Hutchinson (play at Salt Hawk Activity Center with big games at Sports Arena), Pittsburg-Joplin (Iba Fieldhouse), Springfield-Branson (College of the Ozarks or one of several schools in Springfield), Bartlesville (Okla. Wesleyan, but may be a little small), Johnson Co. (Mid-Am. Nazarene).