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Geoff
09-15-2006, 11:08 AM
This isn't a rebirth of the failed Canadian NAIFL. This one's going be run by the NAFL.
www.naifl.org
The site, while well designed, was quickly filled with info and none of it was spell checked.
Let's see, the PIFL put out there really nice website and went nowhere, I wonder who's behind this league. Again a nice well developed website, but who's out there to play... did you see how many teams they are trying to attract. There aren't that many arenas unless they want to go head to head with the established teams and leagues.
Are there this many potential owners wqith money to throw away
DestroyersFan
09-15-2006, 11:51 AM
For crying out loud!!! This is the 4th new league proposed for 2007:
PIFL
WIFL
EIFL
NAIFL
Reichert
09-15-2006, 12:11 PM
For crying out loud!!! This is the 4th new league proposed for 2007:
PIFL
WIFL
EIFL
NAIFL
And out of those only one will actually play a single down on the field: The WIFL. That's because that league is by and large using existing franchises from other leagues to get started.
rams80
09-15-2006, 12:36 PM
These jokers have a goal of 64 teams?!
I'm willing to bet that there aren't 64 untapped, viable markets in the country.
ugottabkidding
09-15-2006, 12:43 PM
So I'm guessing that they are trying to capitalizeon the high standards f the UIF to snatch maybe a few of those teams that are bailiing out of the NIFL in the uppermidwest and northwest. Aren't any rules on their rules page so we don't know if it's 8 on 8 or what. Tell ya one thing, their website and the PIFL's website are far better developed than the WIFL website.
exit322
09-15-2006, 01:25 PM
Because it's ran by the NAFL, it will likely be run by the Greens Worldwide group that almost bought the AIFL.
ugottabkidding
09-15-2006, 02:00 PM
Then it is of no threat to anyone of any consequence
It's like Pee Wee or Mite football semi-pro at best
Geoff
09-15-2006, 02:19 PM
Then it is of no threat to anyone of any consequence
It's like Pee Wee or Mite football semi-pro at best
When you click the link that says "How much will I get paid?" you get a page with a messge that states "The question of the day. The pay scales has been established and will be approved at the first meeting of owners. It will be competetive to other leagues." If this is true, they'll be well paid amatuers.
ugottabkidding
09-15-2006, 02:30 PM
they are no longer worthy of conversation. Sorry I gave them thi smuch energy
tony-o
09-15-2006, 03:48 PM
I think that it can succeed just because they are doing pretty much what the NAFL and ABA are doing: add 100 teams and hope most of them stay afloat.
Reichert
09-15-2006, 03:56 PM
At present I believe Minnesota also has no indoor teams. Just in this state alone (I do live in MN, by the way) there are three affable markets with arenas ready to go: St. Cloud, Mankato, and Duluth. But an indoor team in Minnesota would need to be a winner AND be marketed well....this state doesn't welcome minor league teams automatically.
SignGuyDino
09-15-2006, 08:39 PM
Oh dear God.
Not this now. I'm celebrating the soon to be demise of the EIFL and this comes up.
Now this means they will try to get a team in Asheville because the NAFL Grizzlies are respectable (even though frankly we get killed twice a year from Nashville we are otherwise a solid team).
WE DON'T NEED A TEAM AND HAVE NO PLACE TO PLAY RIGHT NOW.
Got that off my chest.
This makes no sense at all right now. Seems to me they should try to make the NAFL more solid first. It's still considered semipro by OSC and just about everyone else.
SignGuyDino
09-15-2006, 08:56 PM
"team owners are required to have a net worth of $1 million"
Uh...how many millionaires lost their millions in indoor football?
Bad planning is what kills teams.
The NAFL itself has a terrible logo and this website is hideous.
If anything, a lot of the NAFL teams are probably non-profits, why can't THEY have the right to form an indoor team? And why target next year? It's already too late to even talk to most arenas. And those who may be interested are going to charge a lot more because they know you're desperate.
Try this instead: Put this on the table for 2008. Encourage these teams to see into the viability of a regional league only for each region. These non-profits could get grants and loans others couldn't because they've been in the community.
In the meantime, you really need to improve the NAFL product. Actually PAY the players. Put in some of the XFL type rule changes that made sense and put in some rule changes the game needs.
For reference, look at the changes I mentioned for the AAPFL. (I don't think that league will take off but that's just my opinion.) http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/showthread.php?t=3527
Millionaires come in from other cities, form teams, and folks go, "really, just who might you be?" While you SHOULD have proof of money, turf, venue, insurance, etc. to get a franchise, a nonprofit running an NAFL team SHOULD have as much chance to do that as a millionaire, and LIKELY be able to know what they are doing.
Give them some time to get a community owned team, like the Green Bay Packers. Get enough owners and just about ANY bank will give them a loan for what they need to get started.
You talk about having a full time staff, why can't these teams have year-round marketing opportunities as well?
I'd play 7 on 7, and basically talk with the GLIFL folks and replicate a LOT of what they are doing. They the only indoor league besides AFL/af2 that knows what it's doing.
Do this region by region. Don't travel between regions until it's really built up. Just have regional titles.
Or does this make too much sense?
I really should have taken Sports Management in college because I really don't think anybody in the NAFL is thinking this through.
P.S.: Oh, and ban Jim Terry from your league. TRUST me on this.
Dan K
09-17-2006, 12:54 PM
Are there 64 owners that will have a net worth of $1 million? Since the NAFL is considered semi-pro, I would think this effort would be too. The NAIFL will allow players to "develop skills while playing for the love of the game". This sounds more recreational than "for pay". If half of the leagues listed on semiprofootball.org came up with their own indoor league, OSC would be wasting its time chasing these "non-professional" semi-pro leagues.
preeths
09-17-2006, 10:15 PM
Believe me, we know it. Many of these teams can barely pay to rent high school fields. How would they ever afford to rent arenas and pay for turf?
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