Jacksonville is out

[preeths]

The Jacksonville Stallions will not be a part of the NIFL in 2007, according to former GM Sam Terry.

[Minor League Man]

Would you believe the adage:

"Better to have played and folded than never to have played at all"?

[preeths]

Nope. At least the Stallions didn't burn the market with a half-hearted, under-financed effort such as we saw in so many cities this season.

[Minor League Man]

OK, Mr. Reeths, I agree now.

Do you think he's looking for the Arena Football League?

[preeths]

No, I believe they are done period. If there is to be indoor or Arena football in Jacksonville, another group is going to have to do it.

[bear071]

No, I believe they are done period. If there is to be indoor or Arena football in Jacksonville, another group is going to have to do it.
Alittle hint for the group to think about AF2

[fred1965]

The Stallions will not play!?! How can this be? Our lives are that less complete becuase this storied franchise never came to fruition.

As Yoda would say. So bummed am I.

[dogman]

There is a Jacksonville franchise in an entirely new league next year !

[Billy5]

The Jacksonville Stallions will not be a part of the NIFL in 2007, according to former GM Sam Terry.

Another sign of the apocalypse?

[PIONEERSFAN101]

Wow after several threads where he came on here telling us the Stallions would definitely be an NIFL team next year and now they are no more?! I'm in complete and utter shock right now. I mean, a lie in indoor football?! Unheard of!

[Minor League Man]

Wow after several threads where he came on here telling us the Stallions would definitely be an NIFL team next year and now they are no more?! I'm in complete and utter shock right now. I mean, a lie in indoor football?! Unheard of!

I could have dealt with them waiting a year, as long as they played at all...

I hear Jax could be getting an Arena team for the upcoming season.

Rumored teams:
Boston
South Florida (Miami/Ft. Lauderdale)
Jacksonville
Milwaukee

[LoudMouth]

My company has been burned by the Jacksonville Stallions/NIFL for many dollars in unpaid bills, as I am sure many small business have, by folding and not paying their due bills. But as the new season approaches, many other small businesses, in other cities, will fall prey to the 'glamour' of being a part of NIFL Football. Too bad there is a company like the NIFL that allows and probably encourages this type of business. I hope Carolyn Shriver is enjoying making money this way.

Why do I say they allow it? Well, the NIFL Football League allows a team to come into a city (say Jacksonville, Florida for example) for a small fee (less than $5,000 plus insurance cost), without any venue contract to play at, and proclaim they are building and bringing an NIFL Indoor Football Team to their city. Then they hold a live press conference, sell advertising to small businesses, burn local vendors for uniforms & t-shirts, web sites, ect, and the worst of all, charge wanna-be players hard earned money ($50-75) for try-outs that are meaningless. And the NIFL football league & Carolyn Shriver know the whole time, the team has no money and no contract for a venue to play at. But does nothing.

I am amazed that legally you can conduct business this way....

[PIONEERSFAN101]

There's glamour in the NIFL? Someone wanna point this out to me? LM, I'm sorry your company fell for this scam, but as usual, the NIFL was able to take advantage of un/misindormed individuals. A warning to ANYONE considering investing/sponsoring or otherwise getting monetarily involved with an NIFL or any indoor football frnachise....DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LoudMouth]

But how about the guys that hear there are tryouts for an indoor football team, and give up their Saturday and Sunday, plus the $50-75 tryout fee, and are totally scammed, while the owner/GM pocket the cash? How are they protected or informed.

The local media, by the way, were there in full force for the first weekend of tryouts......so the players seeing local TV cameras & sports anchors, must have felt good about the tryouts. Plus the local fish wrap ran these pictures the next week.....

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=102165

Quite scam I would say.....

[UNLogger]

But how about the guys that hear there are tryouts for an indoor football team, and give up their Saturday and Sunday, plus the $50-75 tryout fee, and are totally scammed, while the owner/GM pocket the cash? How are they protected or informed.

The local media, by the way, were there in full force for the first weekend of tryouts......so the players seeing local TV cameras & sports anchors, must have felt good about the tryouts. Plus the local fish wrap ran these pictures the next week.....

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=102165

Quite scam I would say.....

You don't sound as much like a burned small business owner as you do a burned prospective player. I know it really doesn't matter as either way you got burned. It sucks for everyone who has gotten burned by Shiver's farce of a league.

UNLogger

[TheHulk]

But how about the guys that hear there are tryouts for an indoor football team, and give up their Saturday and Sunday, plus the $50-75 tryout fee, and are totally scammed, while the owner/GM pocket the cash? How are they protected or informed.

The local media, by the way, were there in full force for the first weekend of tryouts......so the players seeing local TV cameras & sports anchors, must have felt good about the tryouts. Plus the local fish wrap ran these pictures the next week.....

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=102165

Quite scam I would say.....

This same guy has pocketed the money and is trying to start a team in Youngstown, OH. Mahoening Valley Hitmen or something like that.

[preeths]

No, different guy, same last name.

[MarshalsFAN80]

This same guy has pocketed the money and is trying to start a team in Youngstown, OH. Mahoening Valley Hitmen or something like that.

that is JIM TERRY...

The Stallions was SAM TERRY

[NoBallinPDX]

Hopefully Sam and Jim Terry are not related.
Jacksonville had trouble supporting the af2 Tomcats. Hard to imagine they would support another af2 team there. Certainly not NIFL. I can see why the Stallions never made the field. Fans ain't total dummies!
Milwaukie Mustangs of the AFL were popular locally, so yes, I could see a re-launch of that franchise or something altogether new. 80% or better chances there.
Boston...hasn't been much in that area sinse, I think it was Hartford? of the AFL. Only team close by is Manchester Wolves, then Albany of af2. I think I'd go odds of 60 - 40 in favor of a Boston franchise.
South Florida is the most iffy, since the Firecats are doing very well. Tampa and Orlando of the AFL dominate central Florida, but South Fla. could still be a possibility...50 - 50.
Gone franchises in the Fla. region are Tallahassee, Pensacola, J-ville...and after all, the Miami Morays/Frenzy are doing such a fine job...*gags while chugging from a Hooter's beer glass*
Toss in more recent teams like Daytona Beach, Palm Beach, Osceola,Lakeland,...that's a lot of teams in one state. You risk over saturation. Fan base attention spans lag during spring break maybe.

[TheHulk]

Here in NW Florida we had the Pensacola Barracudas and I was a season ticket holder when they were around. They were owned by the old ownership group of the Pensacola Ice Pilots (ECHL). You could tell the Barracudas were not run too well when the product on the field was mediocre at best. I wasted good money on an average team. Now don't get me wrong the presentation was worth the price of admission. Just hope Pensacola gets into the indoor game again. The Ice Pilots have a new ownership group and a more stable lease at the Pensacola Civic Center. If the NIFL considers P'cola; we all need to form a human chain and block the Civic Center! LOL Pensacola is still a good market.

[Billy5]

Here in NW Florida we had the Pensacola Barracudas and I was a season ticket holder when they were around. They were owned by the old ownership group of the Pensacola Ice Pilots (ECHL). You could tell the Barracudas were not run too well when the product on the field was mediocre at best. I wasted good money on an average team. Now don't get me wrong the presentation was worth the price of admission. Just hope Pensacola gets into the indoor game again. The Ice Pilots have a new ownership group and a more stable lease at the Pensacola Civic Center. If the NIFL considers P'cola; we all need to form a human chain and block the Civic Center! LOL Pensacola is still a good market.

Hulk,
I still have the remainder of my 7 front row season tickets for the Mobile Seagulls. Want to swap?

[LoudMouth]

If your in an NIFL City, or a new NIFL city to come next year, it's not just Sam Terry's name you want to avoid, but Charles E. Rowan, Jr. He was the real name hidden behind the scam that was called the Jacksonville Stallions.

I'm sure Charles E. Rowan Jr. and Sam Terry are in another city, making false promises, collecting money from advertisers and vendors, and not delivering on the promises and agreements.

This league is a scam, it just moves from one city to another.