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afdave
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
So, is the prevailing thought that the NBDL would just like to get to 15 teams (2 NBA teams feeding each D-League team). They could go to 3 5-team divisions then, and basically have a similar playoff system to the NBA conference championships.

afdave
04-08-2006, 02:32 PM
Another thing I noticed... Broomfield, CO (of the Colorado 14ers), is basically a suburb of Denver. If they do ok, would other NBA owners be willing to allow small arena's in their metro area's to get NBDL teams? I'm thinking the new Sears Centre in far-west suburban Chicago probably would be interested.

Mike4FireAntz34
04-08-2006, 03:19 PM
I think 15 teams in the NBDL would be great.....the more teams the better the competition for a playoff spot!!

panchess
04-08-2006, 07:47 PM
..while I am disappointed at the current state of the CBA, I never understood how Broomfield would work in the league anyway.

The Dakota teams are well-run franchises, but don't seem like the markets the NBA wants. You could say the same of Boise.

Eventually, I think the NBDL will end up with more teams like Broomfield. Gary would be a natural fit in the NBDL too, being close to a couple NBA teams. Markets like Albany (though the Pats weren't asked to join, and are currently not interested), Sherveport, and Scranton come to mind. Close to NBA teams without a lot of major D1 basketball.

Mix in a few markets in suburban parts of LA and a couple other big cities, have a loop that emphasizes divisional play, and you have something.

Three five-team divisions: Eight games in division, two games against everybody else for a 52 game schedule without outrageous travel costs.

Pounder
04-10-2006, 12:27 PM
When I think of the way Europe operates... especially the reserve teams, I really do wonder if there will be more Broomfields in this outfit. Long Beach, Tacoma, St. Paul, maybe Provo, Fort Worth, Katy, et cetera. NBA teams could end up not only having primary "affiliations," they could end up having full youth programs and the whole nine yards, and run the lesser-revenue teams out of the smaller buildings.

I do tend to agree that this might be where the NBA should go. In the interim, however, they need the Dakotas to resemble a stable base. The concept has to take hold before it can take off.

suge night
04-10-2006, 01:55 PM
Funny,all season the flyers have over charged for ticket's going from $8.00 at the start to $10.00 by mid season for general admission now comes the kicker playoff ticket's going for $5.00 for general admission they are hard up for any one to come to the game, but came into town blowning smoke about a average of 4,000 per game attending their games.Like I've said don't get caught up in the bull the league is putting out they will have some teams folding just as it did before.....

#1 Guard Fan
04-10-2006, 05:00 PM
15 or 20 teams I don't see them being back in Fayetteville,NC next year. The league wants to seel the last two teams they own and I don't see anyone around here jumping to buy the team

SignGuyDino
04-11-2006, 10:13 AM
You should try to get Arena Racing USA in Fayettenam.

I hear they are doing a special one day event in May in Richmond. I think if they did a circuit tour in the summer it would be huge. With ANY level of serious marketing it would outdraw hockey and basketball.

As to the D-League, yes, I'm afraid the Roanoke and Fayetteville teams are likely out without at least 3 teams out east. I'd wish to hell they would get a team in Buffalo and/or Elmira.

Owners shouldn't look to buying a D-League team out east unless the NBA was willing to get more eastern teams. They should wait on lower level leagues (I said leagues, not circuses like the ABA).

suge night
04-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Sign Guy,the arena thing is bigger than a lot of people think it is you are on the point it already draws more than minor league basketball just for a one day event,the other point is with no east coast team's in the fold a owner would be crazy to put a team in the league and have to travel but you will alway's have a guy with a big ego out there until he loses his a$$ over a 2 year period.

SignGuyDino
04-11-2006, 08:07 PM
I did forget about the teams in Florida but they need a few more. D-League ego won't all them to play in smaller barns in smaller towns.

tony-o
04-11-2006, 08:51 PM
With Anaheim unveiled it is safe to say there will be 15 teams. There are now 14, and David Stern said he would like 15 teams with two NBA affiliates. If they are going to suburbs of big cities, Gwinnett could be a possibility if they want to stay in the east. But I've heard they are moving out of the east so that might not happen. I have also heard Council Bluffs is a possibility.

toad455
04-11-2006, 11:31 PM
With the PitBulls, I'd think this is how the affiliates would be:

FL PitBulls - Miami, New Jersey
FL Flame - Orlando, Boston
Colorado - Denver, Utah
Anaheim - LA Clippers, Milwaukee
Ft. Worth - Dallas, Atlanta
Austin - Houston, San Antonio
Albuquerque - Phoenix, Sacramento
Tulsa - New Orleans, Indiana
Arkansas - Memphis, Cleveland
Bakersfield - LA Lakers, Portland
Idaho - Seattle, Golden State
Sioux Falls - Toronto, Chicago
Dakota - Minnesota, Detroit
Fayetteville - Charlotte, New York
Roanoke - Washington, Philadelphia

nksports
04-12-2006, 01:59 PM
Bakersfield - LA Lakers, Portland
The way the Lakers are playing, wouldn't it be:
LA Lakers - Bakersfield, Portland

toad455
04-12-2006, 06:04 PM
The Lakers are expected to own a D-League team themselves. It would be the first NBA team own a minor league team. The team would play at the Staples center and some games would be part of a double header with the D-League team playing in the afternoon. With the addition of the Los Angeles team and possible the Florida PitBulls would bring the league to 16 teams.

toad455
04-12-2006, 06:14 PM
David Stern said he expects the D-League to reach 30 teams, one for each NBA team. Here's what I think it'll look like:

NORTHEAST
Rochester
Buffalo
Albany
Uncasville, Connecticut(Mohegan Sun Arena)
Burlington, Vermont

ATLANTIC
Trenton, NJ
Baltimore
Gwinnett, GA
Florida Flame
Ft. Lauderdale PitBulls

CENTRAL
Columbus
Pittsburgh
Grand Rapids
Louisville
Knoxville, TN

MIDWEST
Austin
Ft. Worth
Baton Rouge
Tulsa
Arkansas

MOUNTAIN
Dakota
Sioux Falls
Idaho
Colorado
Tacoma

SOUTHWEST
Anaheim
Bakersfiled
Los Angeles
Las Vegas
Albuquerque

Minor League Man
04-12-2006, 06:46 PM
I want Green Bay to get a D-League team someday.
Then the Bucks can have their own affiliate!

HKF
04-12-2006, 07:46 PM
It looks like the Lakers are about to get a team as well (which should be announced next Tuesday at the owners meetings).

Is this Ft. Lauderdale Pitbulls thing legit? Or am I hearing wrong? Also are there any other message boards for minor league hoops? I ask because I enjoy reading the thoughts here.

Minor League Man
04-12-2006, 07:53 PM
Here is a link:
abasite.proboards28.com

It only covers ABA, WBA, and IBL right now. However, it is considering adding CBA and D-League.

My screen name on the board is Burmeister for ABA CEO!

HKF
04-12-2006, 07:54 PM
Thanks Minor League man.

Minor League Man
04-12-2006, 08:04 PM
No problem.
Just post a thread when you register, OK?

johnnydr87
04-13-2006, 01:15 AM
David Stern said he expects the D-League to reach 30 teams, one for each NBA team. Here's what I think it'll look like:

NORTHEAST
Rochester
Buffalo
Albany
Uncasville, Connecticut(Mohegan Sun Arena)
Burlington, Vermont

ATLANTIC
Trenton, NJ
Baltimore
Gwinnett, GA
Florida Flame
Ft. Lauderdale PitBulls

CENTRAL
Columbus
Pittsburgh
Grand Rapids
Louisville
Knoxville, TN

MIDWEST
Austin
Ft. Worth
Baton Rouge
Tulsa
Arkansas

MOUNTAIN
Dakota
Sioux Falls
Idaho
Colorado
Tacoma

SOUTHWEST
Anaheim
Bakersfiled
Los Angeles
Las Vegas
Albuquerque

Some of those locations you listed are kind of farfetched. Like Burlingon, VT, population 38,889 . I'm sure there's many, many bigger markets for the NBDL than burlington.

BreakersFan
04-13-2006, 01:27 AM
You should try to get Arena Racing USA in Fayettenam.

I hear they are doing a special one day event in May in Richmond. I think if they did a circuit tour in the summer it would be huge. With ANY level of serious marketing it would outdraw hockey and basketball.

As to the D-League, yes, I'm afraid the Roanoke and Fayetteville teams are likely out without at least 3 teams out east. I'd wish to hell they would get a team in Buffalo and/or Elmira.

Owners shouldn't look to buying a D-League team out east unless the NBA was willing to get more eastern teams. They should wait on lower level leagues (I said leagues, not circuses like the ABA).

Supposedly someone is trying to put a USBL team in Elmira in 2007....

panchess
04-13-2006, 09:18 PM
..interesting, but it is hard to imagine.

Wikipedia shows the USBL has had 70 franchises in its 21-year history, including the current eight. That is a lot of failed dreams..

afdave
04-14-2006, 09:45 AM
Green Bay (or Madison) would be good for the Bucks NBDL team.
One of the Dakota teams would be for Minnesota.
For Chicago I'd say either Gary eventually jumping ship from the CBA as well, or the new Sears Centre getting an NBDL team.
The Pacers could look at bringing a team back to Fort Wayne.
Detroit could have their team in Grand Rapids.