Surprise, Surprise...

[oldfatguy]

It appears the Golden League has figured out it's too dang hot to play baseball outdoors in Phoenix in the summertime.

[Pounder]

I'd be saying the same about Yuma... but I haven't seen attendance figures for this league.

Does someone know where to get that information?

[Liebo]

Team - Average Attendace / Total Attenance (Openings)

Yuma - 1,930/ 90,730 (47)
Chico - 1,855 / 87,208 (47)
San Diego - 1,461 / 74,522 (51)
Fullerton - 1,141 / 52,464 (46)
Long Beach - 1,064 / 47,881 (45)
Surprise - 981 / 49,057 (50)
Mesa- 915 / 46,643 (51)

Total - 1,331 / 448,505 (337)

[nksports]

They may want to change to some sort of split season — spring and fall. It's too dang hot in any of those cities in the summer (except a couple of those on the coast) or maybe go to a 10 p.m. start time in those desert towns.

[mrcool92501]

its a dry heat!!!!!!

:D :D :D

[nksports]

its a dry heat!!!!!!

:D :D :D

Yeah, just tell those poor souls who die in the desert trying to cross it.

[Pounder]

Sounds like it's too hot to watch baseball in markets that are too big to afford the advertising.

San Diego? Fullerton? Long Beach?

Well, I could ask about Salinas, Rohnert Park, and Vacaville, but I think I get the point.

San Luis Obispo? Merced? Medford OR?

[skippy]

What doesn't work is putting jackass "business" majors in charge who have no experience other than writing papers.

What doesn't work is overpaying everyone from staff to players, to signing some of the most ridiculous stadium leases I've ever heard of.

What should be funny is watching them cut back on things to try and make it work, all the way down to bare bones, and even then it still won't work.

[oldfatguy]

"Baseball people" know how to run a baseball team and make a profit at it. While it doesn't take a PhD to do it, it does take a certain, pretty wide-ranging skill set that a lot of people don't have. I didn't see any sort of experience in that skill set while reading Dave Kaval's bio. It says:

"David Kaval, Chief Executive Officer and Founder
Dave has worked at such companies as Key Bank, Accenture, and Sparks.com. Dave has most recently worked at the Office of the President of the United States on the budget for National Security. He holds an MBA and a BA from Stanford University. Dave is the author of the book, "The Summer that Saved Baseball"."

If you're going to list, in your baseball bio, the companies you've worked for, shouldn't at least one be quasi-sports related? I have worked at such companies as (among others) Burger King, Children's Palace (toy store) and Osco Drug - doesn't make me qualified to start a baseball league. I read the book "Veeck as in Wreck" - doesn't qualify me to start a baseball league.

People who put together a league based on a "Hey, wouldn't it be fun" college research project... well, we see the result.

Even the 'new wave' of major league General Managers have some baseball experience to go with their Harvard degrees.

The business of sports is a whole different animal than just about anything out there. Some of the new hires listed on their site show that the guys at GBL haven't figured this out yet.

To see the GBL happening as it is - it's kind of frustrating for those of us who do (or have done) this - actually make a profit running a sports team.

Thank you for listening. :-)