Final tally: 47 ABA teams to start the season

[Sam Hill]

RED CONFERENCE

Spencer Haywood Division
LA Aftershock
Aoshen Olympian of Maywood
Tijuana Dragons
Orange County Buzz
SoCal Legends
Las Vegas Rattlers
Inglewood Cobras

Ron Boone Division
Bellevue Blackhawks
Tacoma Navigators
Bellingham Slam
San Francisco Pilots
San Jose SkyRockets
Fresno Heatwave
Hawaii MegaForce

WHITE CONFERENCE

Freddie Lewis Division
Pittsburgh Xplosion
Indiana Alley Cats
Kentucky Colonels
Toledo Ice
Lake Erie Rockers
Ohio Aviators
Detroit Wheels

George Gervin Division
St. Louis Flight
Texas Tycoons
Kansas City Knights
Lincoln Thunder
New Mexico Style
Gallup Talons

BLUE CONFERENCE

Roger Brown Division
Boston Frenzy
Montreal Matrix
Strong Island Sound
Newark Express
Harlem Strong Dogs

Connie Hawkins Division
Rochester Razorsharks
Buffalo Rapids
NE Penn Breakers
Maryland Nighthawks
Niagara DareDevils

Marvin Barnes Division
Mississippi Stingers
Birmingham Magicians
Atlanta Vision
Reigning Knights of Georgia
Florida Pit Bulls

Moses Malone Division
Baltimore Pearls
Richmond Generals
Chattanooga Steamers
Charlotte Krunk
Nashville Rhythm

I'm going to guess they lose 6 teams before the New Year and about 22 complete the season. Whatever "complete the season" means.

[nksports]

My guess is about 10 to 12 don't even start the season.

[Chuck the Writer]

My guess is about 10 to 12 don't even start the season.

Honestly, what I think should be done is to have one member take all 47 teams and load their schedules into a calendar. Then each day, anybody who either lives near an ABA city or has access to newspapers in ABA towns, load the boxscore in. A printed boxscore in a newspaper is proof that the game has been played and somebody cared enough to watch the game to put a score in the paper.

Then, if teams disappear - move - rename - fade away, we have a complete record of what happened to the ABA2005-06 season. Right now they've got 47 teams (apparently Louie Dampier wasn't a strong enough ABA player, he doesn't have a division any more). Let's see how many actually do finish the season, if at all.

Besides, I'm curious as to what the "official" ABA2000 stats will be, as opposed to those printed in the paper. I say this because that old "ABA continues to crumble" thread that was part of this board is for the 2004-05 season, but at times it was hard to figure out who was playing and who was not, and who moved and who renamed and whatever.

Okay? Fair enough?

[BruceB]

FORTY-SEVEN teams? This is nuts! What's next, a Skip Thoren Division? Sorry, but I can't even begin to take this league seriously. P.T. Barnum was right.

[Pounder]

...because I'm silly enough to look at this...

The ABA lists Beijing Aoshen Olympian and Maywood Laguneros (which is supposed to be the Hispanized remnants of Long Beach) as separate teams, but the schedule shows Beijing and not Maywood. Meanwhile, there is an ABA release mentioning Aoshen Olympian in Maywood. Are they Chinese or Latino? Cuuuute...

...and what exactly was the deadline for admitting teams into the league? I thought Joe set something in stone back during summer.

Someone forgot to remove Juarez and Orlando from the 2005-06 directory.

"Cleveland" on the directory is Lake Erie in the schedule. "Strong Island" on the directory is Long Island in the schedule.

Silly me to suggest that a professional organization remembers the names of their teams and where their teams are. Ain't I a sick puppy?

[JAKMAN]

Why can't anything be done to legally stop Newman and the ABA from wasting their time, money, effort, etc year after year? Each and every year features folding teams, shifting venues, tiny crowds, a shortened season, and more excuses from Newman and the others about why they failed and why this year is going to be different.

I'm getting sick of this bulls**t. Somebody needs to call the police, an attorney, or somebody that can legally stop Joe from doing this all over again. Doesn't Joe have family that can go to a court and have him declared legally incompetent to handle his own affairs? Seriously, something drastic needs to happen to stop this.

You don't start a season w/ 47 teams. They couldn't handle things with 8 teams, so why in the world does he think 47 teams will be any easier?

Heaven Almighty, the stupidity these people exhibit just boggles my mind.

[Chuck the Writer]

Just for giggles, I went to all the websites of ABA2000 teams listed as links to the ABA website. Here's what I was able to find - and I'm not posting the teams' entire schedule, just what is available to the average websearcher:

Atlanta Vision - 18 home games, no opponents listed
Baltimore Pearls - no website
Beijing Aoshen Olympian - no website
Bellevue Blackhawks - 2004-05 schedule still on site
Bellingham Slam - only one game listed, home opener with Bellevue
Birmingham Magicians - no schedule on site
Boston Frenzy - 2004-05 schedule still on site
Buffalo Rapids - FULL 36-GAME 2005-06 SCHEDULE
Charlotte Krunk - FULL 36-GAME 2005-06 SCHEDULE
Chattanooga Steamers - no schedule on site
Cleveland Lake Erie Rockers - FULL 36-GAME 2005-06 SCHEDULE ON SITE
Detroit Wheels - no website
Florida Pit Bulls - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE ON SITE
Fresno Heatwave - 2004-05 Schedule on site
Gallup Talons - no website
Harlem Strong Dogs - FULL 2005-06 SCHEDULE ON SITE
Hawaii Mega Force - no website
Indiana Alley Cats - website doesn't work
Inglewood Cobras - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE
Juarez Gallos - no website
Kansas City Knights - no website
Kentucky Colonels - schedule TBA
Las Vegas Rattlers - website not loading
Lincoln Thunder - no schedule on site
Los Angeles Aftershock - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE ON LINE
Maryland Nighthawks - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE ON SITE
Maywood Laquneros - no website
Mississippi Stingers - no schedule on site
Montreal Matrix - under construction
Nashville Rhythm - no website
New Mexico Style - no schedule on website
Newark Express - FULL 36-GAME SCHED ON SITE
Niagara Daredevils - HOME SCHEDULE ONLY
NE Penn Breakers - FULL 35 (?) GAME SCHED
Ohio Aviators - no schedule on site
Orange County Buzz - schedule coming soon
Orlando - no website
Pittsburgh Xplosion - 36-GAME SCHEDULE
Reigning Knights of Georgia - FULL 36-GAME SCHED
Richmond - no website
Rochester Razorsharks - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE
San Francisco Pilots - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE ONLINE
San Jose Skyrockets - can't find a schedule on their site
SoCal Legends - links don't work on site
St. Louis Flight - 2004-05 Schedule
Strong Island Sound - under construction
Tacoma Navigators - can't find schedule on site
Texas Tycoons - home schedule only on site
Tijuana Dragons - 2004-05 Schedule
Toledo Ice - FULL 36-GAME SCHEDULE AVAILABLE

So of the 47 teams scheduled to start the season in late October, 14 of them have their full 35 or 36 game schedule online and available for season ticket holders to plan for and arrange. None of these schedules are currently at abalive.com; I had to click through all the websites listed as clickable links from the site. Now maybe I can piece together a rudimentary schedule based on whether team X who only has their home games listed against team Y who has only their road games listed... but this is the ABA2000 2005-2006 schedule, not a frickin' game of Sudoku. Why should I do Unca Joe's work for him?

And in the end... there you go.

[nksports]

Just a hunch, but I'll bet the teams with no web sites are the ones who don't start the season or fold quickly.

Also, about this supposed team from Bejing. Don't mess with the Chineese or they will shoot you and sell your kidneys to westerners.

[barkley34]

I agree with JACKMAN, what is this imbecile thinking. Is he serious??? Hawaii? Teams can barely afford to take a Greyhound across town and stay at Rick's Motor Inn, 4 to a rom for a night. How in all that is holy can they afford to fly to Hawaii (or vice versa) and play??????????????????Idiocy is not all that bad, I am a full fledged idiot and I turned out all right SAM HILL, OSC blowhard

[Pounder]

First off, directly from the current ABA website, under "Today's Games"...

The 2004-2005 season has ended. Information about the 2005-2006 season will be posted frequently throughout the coming months.

Now, I found the schedule by accident yesterday. The schedule page out front leads to a sort of gibberish. However, clicking on one of their team "sub-sites" like, say...

http://www.abalive.com/teams/teampage.cgi?teamid=CN

(Yeah, Beijing. ROAD TRIP!)

In the "schedule" box, right above where they're supposed to show the next three games and don't, there's a link to the "full schedule."

Problem: YESTERDAY, it was there. Now it's the same gibberish that you get on the front schedule link. What the fork? OK, 10 days before the start of the season, and they had to squash a state secret or something? Did they decide to follow Homeland Security guidelines because they fear an attack or something?

[mrcool92501]

2005-06 aba master sked is posted at league website

TOTAL # REGULAR SEASON GAMES---844!!!


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[Pounder]

2005-06 aba master sked is posted at league website

TOTAL # REGULAR SEASON GAMES---844!!!


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At this link? http://www.abalive.com/schedule/

'Scuse me?

If not there, where?

[mikeyratt]

RED CONFERENCE
Moses Malone Division
Baltimore Pearls
Richmond Generals
Chattanooga Steamers
Charlotte Krunk
Nashville Rhythm

I'm going to guess they lose 6 teams before the New Year and about 22 complete the season. Whatever "complete the season" means.

I livein Richmond and I can honestly say I haven't heard the first peep about this team. Not one word ANYWHERE. And I have been looking.

[Sam Hill]

Still waiting to hear exactly what I'm wrong about. But it's easier to just bash me, I guess, without backing it up.