Who's in and who's out?

[preeths]

The league needs to provide some clarification of which teams are actually in the league and which teams are not. What's the name of the Port City team that is included on the schedule? It's obviously not the Savannah Wildcats, at league according to their own release, but there is no mention anywhere that I can find of a new team being added to the league. What about Miami and Palm Beach? Are they taking the year off, not actually in the league or have they just not submitted a schedule?

[Buffal00 Sports Fan]

CBL is just becoming a giant train wreck. The legit teams should just join the WBA. While the WBA may have some flaws, its nothing like the CBL which is becoming a giant eye sore.

Cant say im shocked, the CBL had one of the worst 1st seasons of any minor league ever. Based on that, teams lined up for season #2? Time to run for the exits.

[preeths]

The weaknesses of one league don't make any other league better. The CBL has some things that need to be taken care of, things that really should have been settled more than a month ago, but that doesn't mean the WBA is a better option. They've repeatedly made the same errors season after season.

[Buffal00 Sports Fan]

WBA seems a lot more together to me. Not saying its a good option, just a better option. They atleast seem together enough to put out a league schedule PRIOR to the season.

[AlextheGreat]

Savannah Storm (ABA), who was said to be filling in for the Wildcats, has a football team called the Port City Sharks. I am guessing he is using the PC name to not confuse Storm fans.

[preeths]

WBA seems a lot more together to me. Not saying its a good option, just a better option. They atleast seem together enough to put out a league schedule PRIOR to the season.
Anyone can put together a schedule, though not everyone does it on time. The tough part is playing the schedule, and that's actually the most important part of the schedule.

[Buffal00 Sports Fan]

Exactly, you made my point for me. CBL has never been able to do either of those. Put out a schedule on time, and play games on the schedule.

They only had 4 or 5 teams last season, yet still managed to miss like 15-20 games. This season looks to be heading down the exact same road. This is why the WBA is much, much better then the CBL. Not saying the WBA is great, they just beat the CBL by default.

[LightningMan]

Exactly, you made my point for me. CBL has never been able to do either of those. Put out a schedule on time, and play games on the schedule.
They had a schedule to start the year last year.

[preeths]

How do any of the CBL's failings make the WBA "much, much better," unless you ignore the WBA's own shortcomings? The point that I'm making is that they don't. Lest you forget, the WBA has cut its season short at least once and frequently misses games, despite having several more years to get it right. Last year the WBA dropped Tupelo right before the season started, then inexplicably tried to grab the CBL's Birmingham franchise to replace it. The move backfired when they didn't put a team on the court. I think Jacksonville may have also failed to make it to the finish line. I counted 14 cancelled games for the CBL with six unreported. I counted 15 cancelled games for the WBA with eight unreported. By what metric is one league "much, much better" than the other?

[tops804]

(in) Birmingham Sabers - Birmingham, Alabama
(out) Carolina Cougarz - Fayetteville, North Carolina
(in) Cary Invasion - Cary, North Carolina
(in) Fayetteville Crossover - Fayetteville, North Carolina
(in) Florida Flight - Orlando, Florida
(in) Gainesville Galaxy - Gainesville, Florida
(in) Heartland Prowl - Lakeland, Florida
(in) Port City Sharks - Savannah, Georgia
(in) Wilmington Sea Dawgs - Wilmington, North Carolina
(travel) Miami Stars * - Miami, Florida
(travel) Palm Beach Titans * - Palm Beach, Florida
(inactive) Savannah Wildcats - Savannah, Georgia

Barring further "adjustments", and based on the schedule, boards, and radio show.

[turbocamyes]

How do any of the CBL's failings make the WBA "much, much better," unless you ignore the WBA's own shortcomings? The point that I'm making is that they don't. Lest you forget, the WBA has cut its season short at least once and frequently misses games, despite having several more years to get it right. Last year the WBA dropped Tupelo right before the season started, then inexplicably tried to grab the CBL's Birmingham franchise to replace it. The move backfired when they didn't put a team on the court. I think Jacksonville may have also failed to make it to the finish line. I counted 14 cancelled games for the CBL with six unreported. I counted 15 cancelled games for the WBA with eight unreported. By what metric is one league "much, much better" than the other?

This is what I have from last season:

League Scheduled Added Played Forfeited Cancelled
CBL 40 1 29 1 11
WBA 56 4 29 8 23

The google doc is here:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhhMjJiZ5HAAdDYxdUc4SW9ZMEN2YmZSUmprOGI1d 0E&hl=en&authkey=CODq5ecI

The status notes & game id's are mine. Games in black are from the original schedule and games that were added or changed are in red.

[preeths]

Thanks, turbo, somehow I knew you'd have some good input. Certainly doesn't look as if the WBA is better at all, having played just over half its scheduled games, while the CBL played nearly three-fourths of theirs. No one get me wrong: both numbers are way too low for professional leagues. Let's just not let today's failings overshadow everything that's happened before.

[The Magician]

CBL is just becoming a giant train wreck. The legit teams should just join the WBA

What might be a better idea ... Is for the WBA to concentrate on strengthening their league through making Georgia a focal point of their expansion.

It's interesting that the ABA has reportedly 6 teams in the state of Georgia?

ATLANTA ALIENS ADDED AS 6TH GEORGIA TEAM
http://abalive.com/aba-featured-news/atlanta-aliens-added-as-6th-georgia-team/

Indianapolis, IN. The American Basketball Association (ABA) www.abalive.com today announced that it has added a sixth team in Georgia with the Atlanta Aliens set to play in the Atlanta metro area next season.

If this true ... Why are these teams playing in the ABA vs. the WBA???

It might be worth to allow the CBL league/teams to figure out solutions to their current issues. And if it doesn't work out for the league, then the CBL team owners can make some decisions on the future of their organizations in light of the minor league basketball landscape.

[formerlyknownasfells]

This is what I have from last season:

League Scheduled Added Played Forfeited Cancelled
CBL 40 1 29 1 11
WBA 56 4 29 8 23

The google doc is here:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhhMjJiZ5HAAdDYxdUc4SW9ZMEN2YmZSUmprOGI1d 0E&hl=en&authkey=CODq5ecI

The status notes & game id's are mine. Games in black are from the original schedule and games that were added or changed are in red.

As always, great job Turbo.

[" The Shadow"]

This is what I have from last season:

League Scheduled Added Played Forfeited Cancelled
CBL 40 1 29 1 11
WBA 56 4 29 8 23

The google doc is here:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhhMjJiZ5HAAdDYxdUc4SW9ZMEN2YmZSUmprOGI1d 0E&hl=en&authkey=CODq5ecI

The status notes & game id's are mine. Games in black are from the original schedule and games that were added or changed are in red.

Check the spreadsheet, i believe the cancelled games were the Gwizzlies games. The league put them out after week 2!! Then check cancelled games and see how many were actually cancelled.

[tops804]

Check the spreadsheet, i believe the cancelled games were the Gwizzlies games. The league put them out after week 2!! Then check cancelled games and see how many were actually cancelled.

No free pass because it's the Gwizz. The CBL knew the team had issues in the past when they took them in.

cblhoopsonline.com - Through a more controlled geographic footprint than concentrates on "clusters" of local teams, stringent league protocols that ensure the financial viability of each CBL team, an economy of scales achieved through pooling of league and team resources, and the implementation of various technology solutions, the CBL plans to bring a renewed success to the business of minor league basketball.

[preeths]

The Gwizzlies were on the schedule when the season began so OSC also considers those games cancelled.