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ca
08-23-2010, 10:26 PM
bpd has the aa/nl/fl looking into a merger ?
i cant see nl teams going to the fl although the other way around might happen (aka r/ford) as for an aa merger with the nl in the north i could see this happening . sounds like pk costs and travel are starting to take their toll especially the later imo

heavesrock
08-23-2010, 11:20 PM
If costs of travel are starting to take their toll, than merging won't exactly solve that problem. Traveling from Pensacola to Winnipeg to Pittsburgh to St. Louis isn't exactly a low costs league. Factor B is that the Northern League and Frontier League operate on different scales. The FL has (in general) lower salaries, lower attendance, and smaller budgets. Combined these with the NL and AA style won't be easy. Also, what does the FL have to gain from a merger? From all I can see(correct me if I'm wrong), the Frontier League is doing just fine.

Minor League Man
08-24-2010, 12:43 AM
I think a reasonable solution will work out someday...

Personally, I favor the proposal of a Chicagoland League (for starters) where Windy City (Crestwood), Schaumburg, Joliet, Lake County, Rockford, Gary, and McHenry County. (That would have the potential to have some of the highest average attendance in any league)...I was at that Fielders-Flyers game, and the atmosphere was EXCELLENT-this could be big!

ca
08-24-2010, 06:58 AM
is doing just fine as i can see some clubs due to some shaky nines in the east jumping ship as for this chicagoland loop i like it myself . the bigger problem might be the aa north n nl west if you will now there's where i can see a merger

Ken, Steelheads fan
08-24-2010, 04:08 PM
I just read the Ballpark Digest article Indy Realignment in Discussion Phase (http://www.ballparkdigest.com/features/index.html?article_id=2619). I don't doubt there may be some sort of merger someday, but heck, the NL and AA have had talks like this for some time now. They play pre-season games against each other already.

I've questioned the contents of these so-called news features from Ballpark Digest for years now. That sort of writing (without citing sources) belongs in blogs, opinion columns or discussion boards (IMO). Anyone and their little sister can write for Ballpark Digest and apparently anyone and baby sis does write for them. There's no by-line. There's no journalistic integrity.

However, as far as we can tell, there are no three-way talks and no talk of combining all three leagues into a super-league. We do hear that talks are on the advanced side in terms of an American Association/Northern League combination, with merger being discussed...

As far as WE can tell?!? Who is we? There's no by-line. Also, why is the FL even mentioned in this article if there were no simultaneous talks with the FL. The NL talks with the GBL too. They had an all*star game together this year. Maybe the AA talks with the GBL too. The bits about the FL seem like another article for another time.

nksports
08-24-2010, 07:48 PM
The only thing I've heard so far is one of the ULB teams is looking at joining the AA (I think it was Abilene, correction Laredo, my bad) and that was being looked at as a way to get a new ballpark built. I know the Pensacola ownership is looking at buying an affiliated ball team, but that sounded like a year or two away.

preeths
08-24-2010, 09:07 PM
I believe the group that won the ballpark bid in Laredo plans on placing an AA team there, leaving ULB's Broncos out in the cold.

skippy
08-25-2010, 12:39 AM
This is what I've been able to piece together thus far.

ULB folds.

Amarillo and San Angelo to AA. Laredo goes dark, back next year with AA.
Edinburg, Coastal Bend, and Rio Grande Valley all fold.

AA becomes Amarillo, El Paso, San Angelo, Wichita, Grand Prairie, Fort Worth, Shreveport, Pensacola (in for one more year, actively recruiting affiliated ball) Laredo.

The teams St. Paul, Sioux Falls, Sioux City, Lincoln, Kansas City, Fargo, Topeka, and one more reform the northern league.

The Chicagoland area teams would have their own circuit.

skippy
08-25-2010, 12:42 AM
Also, the new Atlantic League Western Division will poach all the best markets from the AA.

nksports
08-25-2010, 02:08 AM
Topeka

http://cjonline.com/news/2010-07-03/city_monitoring_baseball_lawsuit

http://www.venturasports.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=81

The former makes me wonder if a new stadium in Topeka would get off the ground. The latter makes me think they are looking at Topeka for the AA.
If I were the AA, I'd wonder about having so many teams owned by the same entity.

skippy
08-25-2010, 02:27 AM
That entity is really the entire league already.

Look at the inter-team trading that goes on between the Goldkang group, Ventura Sports, Miles Wolff, etc.

The other teams are just schedule fillers.

J.J. Smith
08-25-2010, 09:03 AM
I think a reasonable solution will work out someday...

Personally, I favor the proposal of a Chicagoland League (for starters) where Windy City (Crestwood), Schaumburg, Joliet, Lake County, Rockford, Gary, and McHenry County. (That would have the potential to have some of the highest average attendance in any league)...I was at that Fielders-Flyers game, and the atmosphere was EXCELLENT-this could be big!

McHenry is a project that, at this point, is dead in the water. They have ZERO funding to build a stadium. I suppose they could take a page out of the Lake County playbook and put up a temporary facility, but I don't think they even have the money for that. Remember, everything done up in Zion was with a state grant earmarked for infrastructure improvements at Trumpet Industrial Park down the road. No private investor in their right mind would actually fund a temporary park. First rule of stadium building: Use someone else's money, because they are huge money losers from beginning to end. The REAL money is made on the front end of these deals, not in running the club.

There may well be a Chicagoland League of some sort. It makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels. But rather than being big, I think it would just allow the teams in it to stay in business. And road teams would be really cheap and easy to assemble and maintain if a team falls by the wayside or they were needed for scheduling purposes.

Salvi is the key owner in all of this. I think he would be the de facto commissioner of any new league.