2:00pm Breaking News- Force Coaches & Players Leave Team

[ggbest777]

Force players leave team along with two coaches after meeting held today.
Wells spends the "new investors" money and has a bus company after him that takes the players to and from away games. Another check to the bus company goes bouncing.

[never was]

hmmm, is that why two vans are the mode of transportation to Lafayette on Sunday? Wonder if they are stopping along the way for another motivational speech about being good citizens from one of TW's friends? I guess that means the players who do make the trip will have more room to stretch out for 14-16 hours each way?

just sayin...

[ronniern]

Can't say it's really a surprise , but it is still disapointing, would be nice to have an indoor league with 6-8 stable teams

[OneLove]

Well well TONY WELLS was back to working hard this week..Taking his players money..the 2 coach's that quit today are great men that could not sit around while TW did the players wrong..The Coach's that stayed must be taking or getting money just like TW.. Maybe Wells is going to take some of his boys to jail with him

[dagr8_1_4ever]

If and when the press finally breaks this story it will be headlines.
Tony Wells or whatever his real name is will get his at that point and all the justice he gets will be well deserved. Had the nerve to have his players excorted out of the building so he wouldn't get hurt.

Bubba is already grinning in anticipation.

[Hands10]

More than 2 coach's walked out I heard, the asst hc, off cord, and off line coach. Aren they making the trip this weekend?

[OneLove]

Tony Wells is ready for Monday nights game..The problem is he will not know his team!!! "Why you ask" He is going to pick most of the team up on the way to the game..After the players ask Wells about taking more of the teams money he called the COPS on them to make sure they did not hurt him.. Still the SIFL sit around and lets this BOY have a team when he has done all his players wrong..YOUR DAY WILL BE HERE SOON WELLS..MAYBE HE CAN GET A NEW TEAM WHEN HE IS IN JAIL!!!!

TAKE YOUR HAT OFF AND
SHOW YOUR FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ggbest777]

That is my understanding as well. The Force will be without their best "O" and "D" players. Wells is going to pick up some semi-pro team that his "new investor" has dealings with. Now, I have some questions.........
I thought the SIFL has rules.....Seems Wells is laughing in their face as well.

1. I know players sign a contract. Seems they would need to be in the SIFL office?
2. Rosters must be turned in to the league office too. So, did Wells turn in a roster?
3. How are these players covered under insurance without a contract in the league office? Oh yea, there is NO insurance!

TW the "MOTHER" IS A CRIMINAL!

[dagr8_1_4ever]

According to the SIFL website there were no transactions from the Force this weekend. That means they will be using the same roster of players as last week. Obviously those players are all going to be there to play. The league would never allow a player to play that isn't under contract, doesn't have insurance, or play under an assumed name. If so the players on the roster should demand payment from the league as well as the team for allowing players to play under an assumed name and possible ruin a players chance to get a chance at the next level. Just hope nobody gets seriously hurt while playing under an assumed name either, that would be a league nightmare.

[ggbest777]

I know for a fact that some of the players that were on the roster last week are not on the van. That means they left the team .......they left Saturday!

[OneLove]

well they need to call the SIFL too because all the players are still in there APT's in Greenville..Thats Right they did not go.Wells Boy HARDTIME got a team up and they are on there way to play..The new CEO of the Force Mr.Solomon has said he will not be back until WELLS is gone!!! If you ask me WELLS and is BOY Hardtime are both in this to get paid and not to pay..HARDTIME is the only postion coach that stay on after the meeting on Sat..WELLS and his boy HARDTIME will soon be doing hard time if they dont pay there players..

Hey Wells Take the hat off and
SHOW YOUR FACE..

[never was]

Look, all of you are not seriously expecting the SIFL to follow guidelines that they have turned a blind eye to thus far, are you? Be honest, Lafayette needs the revenue from a home game, if that means letting some "technicalities" slide for a few days...that is about the only consistent thing the league has done to this point. If the Force actually had insurance, most of the guys would still be playing - that is a fantasy.

The team that you are referring to is the Lauderhill Panthers (outdoor football, at an academy of sorts). Google Detia Solomon - you will see more about the team and his background (fits right in) as well.

just sayin...

[interested onlooker]

I am very disappointed in the SIFL and the President, Mr Hagar. I had been told that he was a straight forward Christian man. But, I am also disppointed in the leadership of the Bi-Lo Center. Both could have stopped this long time ago. Since TW thinks that everybody OWES him for some reason or another, is guess they are too afraid to touch him. The reality is that TW destrroyed a team, coaches and players, that would have most likely played for the championship. Don't put too much on Mr. Soloman. A little googling will show you there are problems there too. Mr. Hagar! the team playing Monday night - the so-called Greenville Force - is a FRAUD!

[dagr8_1_4ever]

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Well it was said that the league knew about the Greenville situation and obviously this is true because they are in bed together. If they allow this to happen just so they can have a game and not have to refund money to fans they are as bad, and maybe even worse than TW in my opinion.

[interested onlooker]

The SIFL does know - TW owes them a lot of money! It's all about the money!

[OneLove]

The players should get there money before anybody..That being said this whole think is a Joke..TONY WELLS is a Joke the SIFL is a JOKE and HARDTIME is a JOKE..What WElllS has hurt these young men by not giving them there money..some of the guys are hurt and cant ever go see a DR..

Show your face WELLS

[mace]

There is more to this than ANYONE knows. I am sure that there is a reason that the SIFL hasn't stepped in yet, but I have it on good authority that things are about to change around the Greenville franchise. I was just told that TW and five (thats right 5) players made the trip and that they have " acquired" enough guys to play this game. Does that mean that the roster was turned in? I can't answer this nor do I intend to ask my connections, but I do know that there has to be a "bigger plan" waiting to be executed. I do understand everyone's frustration, but we have to wait and see if everyone gets THEIRS!!

[robster2001]

From the Force website...


Tony Wells is in his second year as coach of the Greenville Force and his first as President. As such he is still in charge of the indoor football team, and has only brought on Detia Solomon as an investor and CEO of the organization.


That deserves a resounding "WHAT?"

Wells -- the coach/president -- brought in Solomon as CEO... but appears to be running things?

Is the org chart a pretzel?

Man, this would fail the logic test even if I hadn't already seen this thread.

If the SIFL wanted to appear credible, they'd be looking into this "I'll hire you to be my boss" mess.

Of course, I don't know if anyone can succeed financially at Bi-Lo - the arena is way too large for the leagues that would go there. But it appears Wells was never in a position to succeed. That's a shame. Hopefully nobody gets seriously hurt before this house of cards collapses.

[OneLove]

MACE are you in on this too..TW and The SIFL are wrong this has been going on from the start "get your head out of your A**...The SIFL is only thinking about the SIFL..They Have been called over and over about TW and not just by people outside the force but the PLAYRS but still they sit around and let it go on..what you are going to see MONDAY NIGHT is a JOKE...The SIFL is a JOKE and so is TONY WELLS and his boy HARDTIME...

Tony Take that hat off and
Show your face

[dagr8_1_4ever]

If the league allows those players to take the field on Monday night knowing there is no insurance on them then the league will be liable for any injuries that take place. I pray it doesn't happen to find out how the legal system would look at this from the team and league aspect now that it is a known fact that the insurance doesn't exist.

Already over a half dozen guys hurt that can not get medical help due to the lack of insurance, the league and definitiely the state of SC requires the team to have, before they compete.

[never was]

There is more to this than ANYONE knows. I am sure that there is a reason that the SIFL hasn't stepped in yet, but I have it on good authority that things are about to change around the Greenville franchise. I was just told that TW and five (thats right 5) players made the trip and that they have " acquired" enough guys to play this game. Does that mean that the roster was turned in? I can't answer this nor do I intend to ask my connections, but I do know that there has to be a "bigger plan" waiting to be executed. I do understand everyone's frustration, but we have to wait and see if everyone gets THEIRS!!

MACE, you seem like an intelligent guy - from what I see, and try to keep things on the level. But...what will change? OK, let's say that Tony is gone...what else will change? Insurance, back pay, recovering embezzled money, getting up to date on everything financially, treatment for injured players, putting the proper steps in place to be professional for the last small stretch of the season, etc., etc.????? All of this takes money - I don't see anyone putting up the needed cash (at this point, close to $100K I would estimate) to make things financially whole.

We can all wish for the best, but let's be realistic at the same time. There is enough blame to spread around, including a lot of folks that would surprise even you!

just sayin...

[dagr8_1_4ever]

The people that should really be upset are the Wildcatter fans who are coming to the game to see a good matchup and instead will be a blow out of an inferior team that has never even practiced together as an indoor team. But since these are not the Greenville Force players I hope they put a 100+ on these imposters and embarrass the man claiming to be an owner and a coach. Shame on you.

Now we will see what kind of coach you really are Tony.

[nksports]

If the league allows those players to take the field on Monday night knowing there is no insurance on them then the league will be liable for any injuries that take place.

Anyone here remember the EIFL? Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

[mace]

ALL of the players that are taking the field in Lafayette will have insurance. EVERY PLAYER, not just a select few.... Things are in the works but as with anything, it takes time.

And as far as someone thinks that I am in bed with SIFL and that I need to get my head out of my @$$, well you obviously know nothing about me. I am just as critical, but I try to keep an open mind. I too have concerns about this topic, but we have to wait for the legal issues to work themselves out.


BUCKLE Up!!

[interested onlooker]

MACE, nice of you trying to be optimistic. IF the players have insurance in time for the game tonight - it will be questionalble. It is my understanding that the way TW is trying to get around things is to put the players' insurance under their non-profit side of the house. Is that legal? He is, most likely, falsifying what the players are "supposed" to get paid in order to pay a much lower premium. Is any of this legal?

By the way, someone needs to tell the players they can get treatment and file a claim to the SC Worker's Comp to be covered under their uninsured employer fund. Once the injury is deemed a true worker's comp, they will cover the treatment - then I think SC goes after TW for reimbursement.

Unfortunately, I think that all parties involved have sealed the fate of arena football in Greenville for a while! MACE, what ever you know to be going on - may be too little too late!

[ggbest777]

"a bigger plan", give me a break! This whole thing is a bunch of horse crap. TW and the SIFL are in bed together. As far as the president of the league goes, he should get some balls. As the head of any orginization, you do not allow things like this to take place. It is a direct reflection on the leadership at the top. Like I said earlier, TW is laughing in the face of the SIFL. Picking up a team on the side of the road as you go to the game.....again beaking the rules.
Here is your "big plan".........TW is going to the "big house"!

[never was]

For clarification, in SC you must be an employee of the company that provides WC insurance. Up to this point, supposedly the WC insurance was covered by an assistant coaches insurance - which is illegal in this state. The Force (NPO or not) does not have insurance - WC or otherwise - which was told directly to the players two days ago. Until those players are employees of a legal company, they will not be covered, and since the team does have WC insurance...see where I am going. MACE, they may be covered under the General Liability Insurance of the host team in case of catastrophic injury, they are not covered for injuries occuring during a game playing for the Force. Just ask a few of the guys who are currently injured and have no insurance, preventing them from receiving treatment.

I am not saying you are in bed with the league. The facts are the facts, and those players will NOT be covered under WC insurance tonight when they play, NPO or not (do you think TW is that organized to get that done??)

just sayin...

[CoachSMB05]

Take this as a grain of salt because I know very little about the person or the subject, but when I was in the SIFL office last year, the insurance was covered by the league. All the teams were covered across the board and the teams paid the payments to the league so that it didnt matter where each team played, everyone was covered. Now im not sure if that is how they do it this year but that is how it was done in the past.

Maybe the states in the east werent able to do this because I remember it being a per state thing, it was nice that Texas and Louisiana had the same type laws.

[interested onlooker]

Coach, you are correct, it is a state thing. LA has an opt out option. SC does not. The insurance premiums are based on the occupation being covered and the level of liability involved. It is based on the salary of that occupation. For instance - I think for SC the coverage is around $65 per $100 in salary. I may be wrong - getting the figures third hand. Therefore, if the player was going to make $2400 for the season, that player's insurance would be $1,560 - a rough estimate and probably high. Thus the earlier post about the possibility of TW lying about the players' salaries. I like the way LA does it but - when you're in Rome - do as the Romans do!

[mace]

and I understand what you guys are saying, but I was told that the players that are taking the field tonight will have insurance. Now how far that covers them outside on tonights game I can't tell you, but the source that I got this information from is credible. I know that alot of you have a bad taste in your mouths in regards to this situation, but there are a lot of legal issues from a league standpoint that have to be covered before they can really do anything.

[never was]

MACE - I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The ONLY person that can provide WC insurance to those players tonight is TW, period. He (as the sole owner - Solomon is an investor, not an owner) is the one who is employing them (paying them is another story), and the only one who can cover them, and that ain't happening in one day when he is in louisana. Unless you have seen new WC insurance certificates from the state of SC (would have had to be done today), then it does not exist. The wheels of government don't move that fast - even for PROFESSIONAL business men!

just sayin...

[mace]

I never said anything about WC insurance, I don't know the details to that extent, but I know that there is going to some kind of insurance that will cover the guys while they are on the field, thats all I know.

[never was]

Gotcha MACE - hopefully Lafayette has GLI to cover both teams, gameday staff, etc. - something that is not present in G-Vegas! Let's all hope that whoever is in the uniforms (don't go by the name on the back) stays safe!

just sayin...

[mace]

Totally agree... at this point we just want the "Greenville" name to finish the season for the sake of the league, and then they can decide what the heck is going to happen then!

[mudbugsfan]

A full squad of "players" just arrived at the Cajundome. Alot didnt have to travel far, hint hint.

[King Of The Jungle]

Is there a way to watch it on line?

[dagr8_1_4ever]

A full squad of "players" just arrived at the Cajundome. Alot didnt have to travel far, hint hint.

That just proves the SIFL staff do not have the players interest at heart but their pocketbooks.

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[ggbest777]

The SIFL admin is wrong and the guys at the top are as GUILTY as TW!

[bigforcefan]

As I said before in my post on here, this is a bunch of bull Sh--. I have sais a along that the SIFL was just as much at falt as Wells. I Am just glad our players got the hell out. Hope Tony and the coachs that stayed around for this crap get the hell beat out of them. As for the guys on here telling us about how good the pres. of the leauge is, I not impressed. He needs to do something about this other wise his a crook too.

[OneLove]

It's too late for anything to be done..Even if TW does get a TEAM to play the rest of the year things will still not be right..You have young men who have not been paid over 700 and that is wrong..The SIFL is wrong and is a JOKE for letting this go on for so long..I hope the SIFL is HAPPY they will get there team to play and the young men will be the ones hurt in the end,,

take that hat off and show your FACE TW

[axel fuley]

They got there Asses whipped because TONY WELLS SUCK.
Lafayette 90
Greenville Force 19
Oh TW going to have another try out so he will have more money!!!!! Oh.. he don't have any body on he's team but hardtime -:)

[axel fuley]

That's all u worry about is the dam league and finish the season, the SIFL don't give you know what about the player they worry about there $ that's all! Tom and the rest of the SIFL is dirty and filthy just like Tony Wells... They know a bout everything but they didn't do anything about! So they going to do something after the season? Come on this P/S and u know it and Tom calling hem self is Christian he really need to repent and need JESUS in his mind and his heart its never to late just don't do it after the season and next year go back and do the same thing again and again.
just saying

[nksports]

I think for SC the coverage is around $65 per $100 in salary.

Based on what they were saying in Sioux Falls last year, that sounds in the ballpark. Of course when Sioux Falls tried to duck out of its insurance obligations, the IFL went downright English Premier League on them and forfeited a large number of their wins.

[ggbest777]

TW is a JOKE! Head coach......NOT.......Criminal.....YES

This is what happens when you do not know how to run an orginization. I have an idea, let's pick up a team on the way to the game. Let's do the math here you dumas!
1. The team we are picking up has never been coached by me.
2. They do not know the play book or the plays I try to call.
3. The team does not play in-door football.
4. Chemistry is out the door.
5. Practice time is out the door.

Now, take all that and the end result is a beat down!
You got it handed to you last night! They could have put a 100 on the board from what I understand.

TW will have it handed to him again real soon.

[never was]

90-19...enough said!

just sayin...

[bigforcefan]

This is one hell of a joke!!
Wells and the SIFL should all go to jail. Wells on behalf of check fruad and the SIFL on the behalf of letting it happen. 90 to 19 As your mommy would say "now that you had your ass whip you go get in the corner and think about what you have done, and I might let you out in time for dinner". This crap is getting better and better. I bet after the game he got some MEDS if you know what I mean. WELLS PAY YOUR PLAYERS!!!

[mudbugsfan]

http://twitter.com/GvilleFORCE1

read through the game

[never was]

Does this sound familiar? At least they admit that they are out of money, instead of misleading everyone.

http://www.marionstar.com/article/20100527/SPORTS/5270313/1006/Money-runs-out-for-Mayhem--season-is-over

just sayin...

[dagr8_1_4ever]

Does this sound familiar? At least they admit that they are out of money, instead of misleading everyone.

http://www.marionstar.com/article/20100527/SPORTS/5270313/1006/Money-runs-out-for-Mayhem--season-is-over

just sayin...

Honesty and Integrity go a long way.
You may still not make it but at least at the end of the day you know you did your best and didn't cheat anyone along the way.

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[never was]

me thinks that some additional "not surprising" news about TW will be revealed this evening. As they say in TV land..."stay tuned", and "you heard it here first".

just sayin...

[dagr8_1_4ever]

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If the Force could have gotten nightly TV coverage when the season started the place might have been packed.
Well at least the coverage is finally coming.

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