Who will win on the road

[King Of The Jungle]

Since every home team has won every game this season, who will break the streak and when? You will be shocked to know that I am counting on the Columbus Lions to be the first by beating Greenville on the road this Friday.

[mace]

I think that Greenville may surprise you.... but if you do end up being the first to win on the road, it will be only because your game is on Friday night, and our's is on Saturday night! Because EVERYONE knows that the Bucs are going to beat the WILDKITTENS on Saturday!


BUCKLE UP!!

[Rooster]

Forget about playing Columbus, let's just hope the Lions don't hang one hundred points on them. Am I the only one hearing that Greenville is in serious trouble? As in, no owners and the league is already bailing them out? Lafayette may not be too far behind.

Hearing that the Wildcatters have no trade deals in place for players - the team is literally paying for meals for the team (players talk) and will soon eclipse the $800k annual operating cost mark without even having played a home game yet! Sucks too because the Cajun Dome could be an awesome venue but they have no sales staff according to their website. Will be interesting to see if the locals turn out for an inferior product, especially since i believe the Swashbucklers will run up the score on their in state rival.

[dagr8_1_4ever]

Albany didn't hang a hundred with the team not at full speed on the road.
Don't think I'll worry about Columbus doing that with the Force at home.
Just glad you are comfortable in overlooking a team after one bad game.


Wonder what the league has done to help bail out the Force?
What are the rumors saying?

[sportznut]

good question...... what has the league done?

[King Of The Jungle]

I think that Greenville may surprise you.... but if you do end up being the first to win on the road, it will be only because your game is on Friday night, and our's is on Saturday night! Because EVERYONE knows that the Bucs are going to beat the WILDKITTENS on Saturday!


BUCKLE UP!!
Don't be so sure, the Swish-butters may win but, The Mild-catters are not push overs and running the score up won't be as easy as you seem to think. I expect it to be a good game. Unless you put a ton of pressure on Bartik he is good and he has some big receivers to throw to.

[mace]

Don't be so sure, the Swish-butters may win but, The Mild-catters are not push overs and running the score up won't be as easy as you seem to think. I expect it to be a good game. Unless you put a ton of pressure on Bartik he is good and he has some big receivers to throw to.

You may want to pay attention to the game saturday night!! You will see that pressure is what we are all about. Our front three may be the best 3 in the league as a whole. But I am not asking you to take my word for it... come see it when we spank that Columbus but in May!

BUCKLE UP!!

[King Of The Jungle]

You may want to pay attention to the game saturday night!! You will see that pressure is what we are all about. Our front three may be the best 3 in the league as a whole. But I am not asking you to take my word for it... come see it when we spank that Columbus but in May!

BUCKLE UP!!
I agree your front 3 may be the best front 3 we see in a league game but, the best front 3 we see, we see in practice! So, you will just have to settle for second best...in fact, you probably need to get used to that spot.

Now that we took the first road game of the year feel free to collect the second if you can Mace. But, you better be ready. The Mild-kittnes aren't as mild as you might expect.

[King Of The Jungle]

27-27 in the 3rd...that mist be a great game.

[King Of The Jungle]

59-52 Lafayette. That must have been one hell of a game. The good news...The Lions are the first and ONLY road warriors to win away from home!

[ronniern]

wildcatters win their first, in overtime:eek:

[mudbugsfan]

I think that Greenville may surprise you.... but if you do end up being the first to win on the road, it will be only because your game is on Friday night, and our's is on Saturday night! Because EVERYONE knows that the Bucs are going to beat the WILDKITTENS on Saturday!


BUCKLE UP!!

You were saying???

Nice prediction.

[ronniern]

Can we say Buckle Up?, the swashbucklers could be 2-5 when columbus comes to town

[King Of The Jungle]

That's the bad thing about "chat" it doesn't get erased so things can come back to haunt you

[wats3945]

What excuse will the Swashbabbies use now for losing this time? They lost their kicker in week 1, their center did not make the trip, or better yet maybe they just are not as good as they think they are. Wait until the Lions come and lay it on them AGAIN. The Championship goes through Georgia this year.

[mace]

Couldn't agree more with everything that you guys are saying. We got beat by instate rivalry that on this night was better than we were. But I don't think that its going to matter much anyway.

The Buc's have been sold and the new owner or owners will become obvious within the next 2 weeks, Greenville doesn't have an owner and have basically "pawned" their turf to pay for the Arena they are playing in, and did I mention that the league is footing the bill for the Greenville players and coaching staff? it would appear that Columbus and Albany are miraculously the most stable teams in the this league.

The president of the Wildcatters might just be one of the asinine people in the indoor game, for his talk to the Bucs coaching staff and players. But that is not a reflection on the wildcatters team. I have heard of other teams in this league complaining about the officiating during games and from a home field I haven't seen this until last night. There were HORRIBLE calls and lack there of on both sides.

Maybe Caballo Diablo was right in thinking that this league was sinking and taking any teams that joined along with it? I can't answer that, but I do have to question the motives of the League President and front office staff of the SIFL, when they don't hold the RULES to a consistent level. Like, no team can have their cheerleaders on the playing field at any time during play, but they allowed Greenville to do it. Or, how EVERY team got penalized for throwing balls into the stands after a touchdown, but when the Wildcatters do it, its ok. And what I found out about that was that, Lafayette had secured an individual ball sponsor for EVERY game and they ordered 1200 balls, which is 200 balls per game. Why is it that the rules aren't enforced evenly across the board?

On closing I will leave you with this, it sure seems like a DUBYAH presidency going on here. Make the rules as you go and change them whenever you like. Losing is part of the game and a necessity, but when rules are changed and "bent" on a per game basis, something is wrong.

BUCKLE UP!!

[mace]

What excuse will the Swashbabbies use now for losing this time? They lost their kicker in week 1, their center did not make the trip, or better yet maybe they just are not as good as they think they are. Wait until the Lions come and lay it on them AGAIN. The Championship goes through Georgia this year.

And your opinion is welcomed and accepted, but you are the worst kind of fan... 2 posts, REALLY? Welcome to the game now that you have a reason to post.

BUCKLE UP!!

[wats3945]

Mace I just wanted to see what excuse you were going to use for the lose this time, you seem to be the man with all the answers......

[King Of The Jungle]

Come on Mace! Wats is just a man of few words. So, you went to the game? I know what you mean about different rules in different places but, they usually apply to peripheral things like cheerleaders on the field (but, those things drive me insane). I Greenville, they don't have a solid wall in one of the end zones. Instead they have a 15 foot gap in the middle of the end zone wall so if you pass the ball there, there is nothing to bounce off of. I tactfully pointed it out in a calm, professional, caring, concerned way and I got a shrug. Just be thankful you don't have to go to Disgusta to play.

You will be surprised to know that over the years no one has been more critical of the officiating than me. But, this year they seemed to have improved quite a bit. No real complaints other than some lapses in judgment which is going to happen. Of course that opinion is subject to change at a moments notice but, so far so good. I guess when we come west for our sweep of Louisiana I may feel different but, I doubt it.

It looked to me like while the crown in G'ville for the Farce's game was small they were enthusiastic and from a team point of view they were a very good host with towels water etc. In fact, I would say the "host" part of the night was the best I have seen in the 3 years we have been going there so maybe the "pawned turf" is an exaggeration. Hopefully, their fans will start going because they do put on a good show.

I really like this league better than any of the 3 we have been in the talent, coaching and facilities are all good, and next year it should grow significantly, so keep some happy thoughts!

And don't forget to BUCKLE UP

[dagr8_1_4ever]

Couldn't agree more with everything that you guys are saying. We got beat by instate rivalry that on this night was better than we were. But I don't think that its going to matter much anyway.

The Buc's have been sold and the new owner or owners will become obvious within the next 2 weeks, Greenville doesn't have an owner and have basically "pawned" their turf to pay for the Arena they are playing in, and did I mention that the league is footing the bill for the Greenville players and coaching staff? it would appear that Columbus and Albany are miraculously the most stable teams in the this league.

The president of the Wildcatters might just be one of the asinine people in the indoor game, for his talk to the Bucs coaching staff and players. But that is not a reflection on the wildcatters team. I have heard of other teams in this league complaining about the officiating during games and from a home field I haven't seen this until last night. There were HORRIBLE calls and lack there of on both sides.

Maybe Caballo Diablo was right in thinking that this league was sinking and taking any teams that joined along with it? I can't answer that, but I do have to question the motives of the League President and front office staff of the SIFL, when they don't hold the RULES to a consistent level. Like, no team can have their cheerleaders on the playing field at any time during play, but they allowed Greenville to do it. Or, how EVERY team got penalized for throwing balls into the stands after a touchdown, but when the Wildcatters do it, its ok. And what I found out about that was that, Lafayette had secured an individual ball sponsor for EVERY game and they ordered 1200 balls, which is 200 balls per game. Why is it that the rules aren't enforced evenly across the board?

On closing I will leave you with this, it sure seems like a DUBYAH presidency going on here. Make the rules as you go and change them whenever you like. Losing is part of the game and a necessity, but when rules are changed and "bent" on a per game basis, something is wrong.

BUCKLE UP!!

Sounds like upper management might be the problem instead of the solution.

[mace]

Come on Mace! Wats is just a man of few words. So, you went to the game? I know what you mean about different rules in different places but, they usually apply to peripheral things like cheerleaders on the field (but, those things drive me insane). I Greenville, they don't have a solid wall in one of the end zones. Instead they have a 15 foot gap in the middle of the end zone wall so if you pass the ball there, there is nothing to bounce off of. I tactfully pointed it out in a calm, professional, caring, concerned way and I got a shrug. Just be thankful you don't have to go to Disgusta to play.

You will be surprised to know that over the years no one has been more critical of the officiating than me. But, this year they seemed to have improved quite a bit. No real complaints other than some lapses in judgment which is going to happen. Of course that opinion is subject to change at a moments notice but, so far so good. I guess when we come west for our sweep of Louisiana I may feel different but, I doubt it.

It looked to me like while the crown in G'ville for the Farce's game was small they were enthusiastic and from a team point of view they were a very good host with towels water etc. In fact, I would say the "host" part of the night was the best I have seen in the 3 years we have been going there so maybe the "pawned turf" is an exaggeration. Hopefully, their fans will start going because they do put on a good show.

I really like this league better than any of the 3 we have been in the talent, coaching and facilities are all good, and next year it should grow significantly, so keep some happy thoughts!

And don't forget to BUCKLE UP


Let me say this... the Force DO NOT HAVE AN OWNER!! They have used their turf as collateral on the arena so that they have a place to play. The league is footing the bill for the players salaries as we speak. The issue with Houston, well it shouldn't have been a surprise either. I will shoot you a private message, call me and I will go into more details..

[mace]

Sounds like upper management might be the problem instead of the solution.

I think that you are right! When you bend or fracture the rules accordingly to what you think is best for the league, then the interpretation of crooked politics and money comes into play. Is he doing this for the better of the league, is he doing this for money, because he owns the league isn't it the same thing to him? As far as the officiating, it was the WORST I have ever seen in one game.... BY FAR!! The wildcatters played with the same shoddy officiating that we did and won. I am not saying that at all, they played the same game we did and they won, I congratulate them, contrary to what WATS says. No excuses on the loss, I am more disappointed by the leagues standpoint on upholding certain rules at certain arenas. And don't even get me started on the Salary Cap. Did you know that before the game the Wildcatters owner was on the radio there in Lafayette and told the people that they would win at "any cost". Didn't think much about all of that until after the game, when a friend of mine who plays for the Wildcattters told me that each player got 1000.00 dollars for beating the Swashbucklers. I have only known this man for 5 years and have no reason to doubt anything he says.

So now we ask... how much does the SIFL front office know? Did you know that the Houston issue, shouldn't have been a surprise. The owner of the Houston team this year that bailed out before the first game, well... he was the same owner that bailed on us last year. Thats right, Mr. Hager in his infinite wisdom, allowed this man to come back to league this year in the hopes that he would have came true to his word and build a team. Then when he didn't, Mr. Hager acted like it was a surprise. No one has to believe me, do some research and see if what I just said is true.

I have been trying to keep a straight face about the league and all of the "mishaps" that it has had the first year. But this year, the league shouldn't be making the same decisions but it sure seems to be heading down that same road. Now I have to wonder how many in the league front office are "in the know", if any?

[mudbugsfan]

Wildcatters owner was on the radio there in Lafayette and told the people that they would win at "any cost". Didn't think much about all of that until after the game, when a friend of mine who plays for the Wildcattters told me that each player got 1000.00 dollars for beating the Swashbucklers. I have only known this man for 5 years and have no reason to doubt anything he says.



You are a LIAR, you need to stop spreading LIES and negativity. You team lost and you are making stuff up. Get a life.

[mace]

You are a LIAR, you need to stop spreading LIES and negativity. You team lost and you are making stuff up. Get a life.

So what you are saying is that I wasn't told this? How would you know what I was or wasn't told by a wildcatters player? I don't have a single reason to lie, I don't care if you believe me or not... but you need to know one of the players told ME this... not someone else... he told me that! So, you need to wake up. There is alot in this league that is going on and you haven't a clue!

ANd I already said that my team lost... not arguing that point, both teams had to play with crappy officiating and the better team won last night. But the league is changing rules as they go on a per game basis. Your team should have been penalized 60 yards for unsportsman like conduct for throwing balls into the stands, but they didn't because the league office changed the rule because your team bought 1200 balls. But yet EVERY other team in this league has already been penalized for that very thing. I guess I am lying and making that up too??


I will give you that one... but the next time you call me a liar, we will deal with that on another level. I am alot of things, but a liar I am not. I know more about this league and this Louisiana Swashbucklers team that ANY OTHER fan. So you may want to retract your statement, because you look like a fool.

[preeths]

So what you are saying is that I wasn't told this? How would you know what I was or wasn't told by a wildcatters player? I don't have a single reason to lie, I don't care if you believe me or not... but you need to know one of the players told ME this... not someone else... he told me that! So, you need to wake up. There is alot in this league that is going on and you haven't a clue!

Maybe because YOU wrote this:
Wildcatters owner was on the radio there in Lafayette and told the people that they would win at "any cost".

[mudbugsfan]

I know more about this league and this Louisiana Swashbucklers team that ANY OTHER fan.

HAHA. Who really cares.

Please enlighten me, what player told you this?

As far as taking it to another level, be for real MACE.

BUCKLE UP

[Gusher]

Congrat to the Wilcatters on thier big win. As a fan of the sport having a come from behind win in OT is great. AND a loss is hard to take.

[mace]

Maybe because YOU wrote this:

That was on the radio.. all over that 107.9 or whatever station that is... Win at any cost. I don't have to make that up, everyone that listens to that station heard that. But whatever....

I will just say that it doesn't matter what I think or what anyone else thinks for that matter. We lost, I couldn't agree more. The better team won last night, but the league changed the rules on the fly to accommodate this team and this venue. Am I the only one that see's something wrong with that? Consistent enforcement of the rules across the board!! How bad do you think it would be if the NFL did something along those lines? The SIFL front office takes it's orders from one person. Now did he tell them to do this, or did they do this on their own? Please tell me that your not that stupid that you don't see something wrong with this?

[Caballo Diablo]

HAHA. Who really cares.

Please enlighten me, what player told you this?

As far as taking it to another level, be for real MACE.

BUCKLE UP
You should care. Inconsistantcies from team to team, venue to venue, and officiating crew to officiating crew NEEDS to corrected. All Diehard fans should care. All leagues have problems, how those problems are addressed create fan and public perceptions on the entire sport whether true or not.

One team or one league can spoil things for the entire sport. Mace wasn't smacking your team over the loss, he was concerned about these inconsitantcies that both teams have had to face.

Just because he won't name the player doesn't mean it didn't happen. Many across the various forums have inside info and connections. Why, because they don't tattle or release certain info. Once you start throwing people under the bus you quickly become an outsider shunned by your connections, team, and league.

Mudbugsfan, if you think most teams aren't circumventing the salary cap or other rules you're naive. This is a problem in all leagues that keep certain teams in the top echelon while others languish in mediocrity. The guys willing to spend the most always have a recruiting advantage. Many times leagues look the other way as not to expose their problems or hurt one of their better teams.

The af2 busted a team for serious salary cap violations, what did they do? The first time they slapped their wrist and let them hoist the cup. The second time they tried to sweep it under the rug while letting them hoist the cup for a second time.

Things like this turn off the few fans we've got and tell the masses they were correct to think this sport is a joke and they made the right decision to avoid it. All leagues are struggling with attendance and need all the fans they can find.

Most leagues (maybe all) have at one point or another supported a team on life support, luckily the league has found new owners for some of them but expect some teams to fold mid-season and this upcoming off-season. I could list some team names for you but why? It's not about a few teams, it's about how the league themselves handle this problem.

Some league offices over the past couple of years have struggled to pay their own employees, there's no way they can continue to pay for their franchises to continue to operate.

We can debate the causes, the economy, letting in owners not qualified or financially stable. It's a catch-22, if you only accept owners/franchises that are 100% stable the leagues will be very small. If you let in questionable owners/franchises too often it just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the fans and the masses. It's a very difficult juggling act to make it all work.

Like Mace said, much of the SIFL problems were shrugged at last season because it was year one. Most business have a 3-5 year plan to work out the kinks. It's still too early to expect a smooth running league, but to see the same problems come up time and time again is a bad sign. Once again, many times it's more important how they handle the problem instead of the problem itself. Will they adjust and correct or ignore and worsen?

[King Of The Jungle]

Man, miss a couple of hours and you miss a lot! Mace is being humble about a defeat, players are talking out of school, people are called liars, threats....damn, this sounds like Conress.

This is going to be a long post and I will take 'em one at a time:
1) It is my understanding that once the season starts Hagar removes himself from any role other than team owner until the season ends. I hope that is the case and as it pertains to the Lions I have no reason to doubt that this is the case.

2) If anyone is allowed to throw balls in the stands without a penalty, then I agree that is wrong. In previous years we have had problems with that and with players keeping balls for their trophy case for every little thing they did and by the end of the year it was a question whether teams would have enough to fiish with. But, I can assure you this, if there is no penalty, then the Lions fans will be coming home with plenty of balls thrown into the stands. I actually LOVE the idea of throwing balls to the fans. If a kid goes home with a ball you can bet that family will be back. But, you also should enforce the rules evenly and that is more important than special rules for marketing purposes in my opinion.
3) I of course didn't hear the "win at any cost" comment but, I also don't know that it wasn't said. But, if it was said it could have been an owner trying to generate interest, fire up his team and get people to the game. If it was said it looks like it worked. And, "win at any cost" doesn't neccesarily mean money. It sounds more omnious than that to me, like a threat against the visiting team, but it is hard for me to believe that a "threat" was the intent. It sounds like someone was just being interviewed and got carried away and I don't read too much into it.
4) I have no doubt that someone told Mace he got a $1000 bonus. Why would he make that up? I also doubt that they got $1000 bonuses because that would be $25,000 for one win and trust me, you won't be recovering that money so unless a lottery winner onws that team, someone was just trying to get Mace's goat and it looks to me like it worked. Players talk crap all the time just to stir things up especially when they win. So, while I believe Mace, I do doubt his source.
5) I really want to know more about the group who Mace says bought Lake Charles and about the pawing of the turf.

Now to paraphrase Rodney King Can't we all just get along and kick each other's ass on the field? This peace maker thing is not my style!

[mace]

Well it has come to my attention that on Friday night, they announced an owner or owners for the Force. So things there may change, I hope so... they were great competition.

As for my source on the thousand dollar bonus, I wouldn't bank that he was telling a lie. In fact, on his facebook page today...he was GLOATING about it. So, I don't think that my bud, a friend of 5 years lied to me about it, or about the game last year when he got a 200.00 dollar bonus that was confirmed to me by one of the upper admin in the MudBugs organization.

Now on to the ball throwing. I couldn't agree more about if balls are thrown into the stands that families come back again and again. I also see the side of the league that we have to have balls to finish the season. But to allow it in Lafayette last night without penalties, because Lafayette has an unique and individual ball sponsor for EVERY GAME, now that's just plain silly.

At one point last night there was an interesting call that when I questioned a league official about it I was told that "its a judgment call my the officials on the field". Wildcatter player makes a questionable reception in back of the endzone. When the Bucs coach challenges it, which I think that a completion is a challengeable call. He is told that it is not challengeable and you lose your challenge. WoW!! I was told that we play by the NCAA rules for the most part, well I know that completions are challengeable calls, and even if you challenge a non-challengeable call... THEY DON'T TAKE YOUR CHALLENGE!!

The officiating on BOTH sides last night was HORRIBLE, the rule changes per team and per venue are HORRIBLE. I would like to know why this is allowed and what are they going to do to make this right to the fans who pay good money to watch this.

[daytonadan]

Best 537 words of Cabby's career....

You should care. Inconsistantcies from team to team, venue to venue, and officiating crew to officiating crew NEEDS to corrected. All Diehard fans should care. All leagues have problems, how those problems are addressed create fan and public perceptions on the entire sport whether true or not.

One team or one league can spoil things for the entire sport. Mace wasn't smacking your team over the loss, he was concerned about these inconsitantcies that both teams have had to face.

Just because he won't name the player doesn't mean it didn't happen. Many across the various forums have inside info and connections. Why, because they don't tattle or release certain info. Once you start throwing people under the bus you quickly become an outsider shunned by your connections, team, and league.

Mudbugsfan, if you think most teams aren't circumventing the salary cap or other rules you're naive. This is a problem in all leagues that keep certain teams in the top echelon while others languish in mediocrity. The guys willing to spend the most always have a recruiting advantage. Many times leagues look the other way as not to expose their problems or hurt one of their better teams.

The af2 busted a team for serious salary cap violations, what did they do? The first time they slapped their wrist and let them hoist the cup. The second time they tried to sweep it under the rug while letting them hoist the cup for a second time.

Things like this turn off the few fans we've got and tell the masses they were correct to think this sport is a joke and they made the right decision to avoid it. All leagues are struggling with attendance and need all the fans they can find.

Most leagues (maybe all) have at one point or another supported a team on life support, luckily the league has found new owners for some of them but expect some teams to fold mid-season and this upcoming off-season. I could list some team names for you but why? It's not about a few teams, it's about how the league themselves handle this problem.

Some league offices over the past couple of years have struggled to pay their own employees, there's no way they can continue to pay for their franchises to continue to operate.

We can debate the causes, the economy, letting in owners not qualified or financially stable. It's a catch-22, if you only accept owners/franchises that are 100% stable the leagues will be very small. If you let in questionable owners/franchises too often it just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the fans and the masses. It's a very difficult juggling act to make it all work.

Like Mace said, much of the SIFL problems were shrugged at last season because it was year one. Most business have a 3-5 year plan to work out the kinks. It's still too early to expect a smooth running league, but to see the same problems come up time and time again is a bad sign. Once again, many times it's more important how they handle the problem instead of the problem itself. Will they adjust and correct or ignore and worsen?

[mace]

Congrat to the Wilcatters on thier big win. As a fan of the sport having a come from behind win in OT is great. AND a loss is hard to take.


Your exactly right Gusher, but see I played football in high school and I know that losing is part of playing the game, so I am not upset about the loss. I am more upset and the leagues officiating and the inconsistency in the rules that are applied from team to team and from Venue to Venue. Can I ask you a question? I know that you are a part of the SIFL organization and that you have to maintain a professional view. But do you think that the public would be ok with the NFL making changes from VENUE to VENUE or from team to team as to what rules were going to be enforced?

Lets see if I can get a response from someone at the SIFL on that?

[jeepman262]

Usually in the sport of indoor football, the visiting team is penalized for throwing balls into the stands and the home team is not. This is due to the fact that the home team is the one that has purchased the balls and their players can do as they choose with them.

[mace]

Usually in the sport of indoor football, the visiting team is penalized for throwing balls into the stands and the home team is not. This is due to the fact that the home team is the one that has purchased the balls and their players can do as they choose with them.

You are correct, but after last year with all of the kicking balls out of bounds and players throwing balls into the stands. The SIFL took the initiative to change the rules that if you throw a ball into the stands, it is unsportsman like conduct and the penalty is 10 yards after the ensuing kickoff. But that rule was thrown out last night, which by the way would have cost the Wildcatters 50 yards and the Bucs 10. But who was counting?

[mudbugsfan]

I was in Greenville for the first game, they threw balls in the stand without penalty. Throwing balls in the stands does not affect the score, its for entertainment. 200 balls a game because they give them to VIPs as well, they dont go thru 200.

As for the $1000 bonus, I talked to a few players today, they said they wished it was true.

[mace]

I was in Greenville for the first game, they threw balls in the stand without penalty. Throwing balls in the stands does not affect the score, its for entertainment. 200 balls a game because they give them to VIPs as well, they dont go thru 200.

As for the $1000 bonus, I talked to a few players today, they said they wished it was true.

You're right, everyone else is wrong... but whats new about that Lafayette mentality? Believe me, you don't really think that they are going to admit that them or the team has broken league rules, do you?

In the words of my boy Keshawn Johnson.... "Come on MAN!!"

[LLG]

Greenville should keep all there balls..the players have not been paid all year!!!!

[buqlldobgs]

1) I also have player sources in the Wildcatter camp that told me they would receive "significant" bonuses if they beat Lake Charles. One of them is a very good friend of mine, and, as Mace, I have no reason to believe him to be a liar.

2) As for the balls in the stands issue, I know at the last Lake Charles home game, the Swashbucklers were indeed flagged for throwing balls in the stands. I do also know, from VERY reliable sources, that the Wildcatters had a deal with Dan Blum to be able to throw balls in the stands, since the have a different ball sponsor for each home game. Those words are quoted from all of my sources.

Call it what you will, but those types of things are inexcusable.

[buqlldobgs]

Let me not say I know, because I was not there to hear the conversation directly. Let me rephrase that to I have VERY reliable sources that have told me that there was a deal with Dan Blum concerning the balls in the stands issue.

[mudbugsfan]

1) I also have player sources in the Wildcatter camp that told me they would receive "significant" bonuses if they beat Lake Charles. .


I know they will be getting bonuses, correct me if Im wrong, dosent every team get bonuses when they win a game. They arent $1000 however.

[buqlldobgs]

You are correct, they do. It is $50 for the win. You are missing what my statement was. It said "significant" bonus, as in a good chunk more than the allotted amount.

Believe what you want mudbugsfan, but teams do cheat, and do bend the rules. If you believe that any orginization is playing by the rules 100%, especially one that is shelling our the money that the Lafayette team is, then you are more naive than I give you credit for.

[King Of The Jungle]

Mace, I stand corrected. I did some investigating and it turns out I was the only one who was surprised by the $1K bonus. I also checked into the ball throwing and I agree with you but that was I have been told a 1 time deal because of the sponsor. Maybe that was how they gave the $1K win bonus, who knows.

[King Of The Jungle]

On the balls issue. My understanding is there was a deal and truthfully, if it makes the owners some extra cash, I have very little problem with it. The rule was put in place to save money (in my opinion) so if they treat it like ground rule in baseball maybe that would be the way to handle it. Most places have something unique. In Disgusta the field was less than 50 yards, in Harrisburg the turf was placed over dirt, in Osceola the cieling was to low. All of this was taken into account when the game was played so why not make balls in the stands a ground rule too. The caveat would be that it be equal for BOTH teams and that it made clear BEFORE the game.

[JackyD]

I saw the post about the league footing the bill for the force.......

I'm not sure what bill they are footing, especially when it comes to the players. They players have been given 40....YES 40.... of their 950 bucks that they have earned. There are numerous bills that have not been paid by the former owner that has put them in a bind. I'm not a player, but I do know that is a fact.

There is no doubt that the product on the field for the Columbus game was not as good as the first two home games. The team played well in the first half, but fell off dramatically in the second half. WHY? Cause they haven't been practicing. Webb was on fire in the first half and the WR were making plays. The second half was a different story when the two OL went out. Greenville couldn't stop their pass rush in the 2nd half and absolutely killed the rythm of Webb and his WR's. But still, what can you expect from a team, a professional team, that hasn't practiced hardly at all in 3 weeks. Also, what player on that team would respond to a "win one for the gipper" speech at half time. They aren't getting paid, promises aren't being kept and I even heard that the players have no furniture in their apartments. Thats right, no bed, no couch, no chair, no nothing. Go play a football game and sleep on the floor. That will get you motivated.

I have been to many, not all, of the Force's home games the past two years. I would like to think I know a little about football and I really think that with Webb and the recieving core that he has and the potential that the defense has if they can get some stability in the secondary, the Force has a chance to compete for a championship. But, if the owner does not get things right quickly, I don't see how these players will or can continue to stay in Greenville and play.

While I'm on my soap box, I might as well add my disappoinment in the advertising. THERE IS NONE. Every game I have been to has ran smooth, the games they play during timeouts go good, the crowd (not really a crowd), but the fans in attendance, are having a blast. But, there is not going to be any more than 1,000 fans, if their lucky, come because they don't know anything about it. Nothing on TV, nothing on the radio, they didn't even get a good article in the news this past week.

Come on Greenville. Someone get it right. The Force could be such a big draw on weekends in Greenville with a little bit of work.

[dagr8_1_4ever]

NO advertising is the problem.

Key word--NO

[Gusher]

OK now that the lions have shown it can be done who will be the next VISITING team to get a win?

[dagr8_1_4ever]

Lafayette has the best chance this weekend.

[Gusher]

With the previous game being so close and the Wildcatters getting their first win this should be a very good game.

[King Of The Jungle]

OK now that the lions have shown it can be done who will be the next VISITING team to get a win?
I would say the Lions AGAIN!

[ronniern]

Da Bears...I mean Da Lions