Game 3 - championship!

[OKCAVS67]

Ok, lets try to keep this thread strictly for the championship game.


For those that want to watch the game, The Cavs website usually has the game streaming live with audio from the local radio station Magic 95.

The local TV station has streamed the last two home games live on its website - www.kswo.com Don't know if the live stream has audio since I have been at the game both times they have done it.


Game Prediction:

CAVS 101 - Rochester - 88
CAVS win their first PBL Championship

[misenern]

I'll go out and say that the Cavs win in a blowout. Rochester did their best to hang with them but the Cavs have better talent and will finally pull away. Oliver Miller was never much of a loss.

[LandoG]

105-92 Cavs, although I'm thinking it'll be close until the last couple minutes...

[CAVSFAN]

CAVS 107 - 99.

GO CAVS Crazy. Hope we can fill the seats tonight. Very noisy crowd Sunday with 1500. Lets get those other 1300 seats filled and blow the lid off the place!!!

[psbf]

I hate odd numbers(esp. 99), why not just make it an even 100?!:)

[CAVSFAN]

PSBF - Just for you!! 98. I cant give the Sharks 100.

[Juniper]

Rochesters sharpe shooter will be out in force tonight. Rochester 113-102.

[CAVSFAN]

Rochesters sharpe shooter will be out in force tonight. Rochester 113-102.

Gutsy call Juniper. If the Sharks would win I dont think it would be by that much.

I would think that it would be very close and maybe a last second shot.


THe CAVS have not given up that many points this year anywhere let alone at home.

Not going to happen in the House the CAVS built!

[The Sweeper]

I'd like to see a more defensive game. 89-84 Cavs.

[CAVSFAN]

I'd like to see a more defensive game. 89-84 Cavs.

that is a very realistic possibility

[OKCAVS67]

Cavs have to stop Friel and Dandrige from hitting the 3's. Those two can just about hit one from anywhere.

In Game 2, the Cavs came back from 10 down when Friel and Dandrige were on the bench getting a breather.

If the Cavs run up and down the floor like they did in Game 2, they should win with no problems.

Lets all pray that the Refs let the teams play. No Ticky-Tacky fouls.

[rocdc]

Hi all...I am stuck at work and can't get video - crez is a bust too - if anyone is watching and on the boards, would you mind posting the score once in a while? I am dying here!

I promise to behave and not get involved in any name-calling or arguments tonight. :)

Thanks!

[not so fast]

cavs up 56-45 at the half.

these cavs announcers are the worst homers I have ever heard since Jack Brickouse convered the Cubs in 1970.

Rochesters defense has been non existance. The cavs are okay, but in watching this game, it is clear to me on how the talent level has dropped off in the PBL.

Rochesters team last year would have beaten the cavs in two straight, and with ease.

[Frost Heaves Fan]

Cavs leading at half time.

Cavs 56
Roch 45

[rocdc]

Appreciate the info...if you wouldn't mind some in the 2nd half I would be most appreciative!

:)

[CrookshankJam20]

Hilariously brutal. Game 3, deciding game of the PBL championship, and no live boxscore. This league is an absolute f---ing joke.

[Frost Heaves Fan]

Cavs 66
Roch 47

1/2 way through the 3rd

[rocdc]

Both the Razorshark's and Cav's sites have links to video of the game...I am only asking for scores because I am at work and can't download/stream...that should help you out if you want to watch.

[rocdc]

Thx to Heaves Fan.

[Frost Heaves Fan]

75 to 54 Cavs

5 mins left in 3rd

[rocdc]

for the update.

[CrookshankJam20]

for the update.

Keep em coming. Seriously, the PBL is a disgrace for not having this up.

[CHris902]

115-93 for LFS.
3:03 left in the game.

The announcer is an even more embarassing homer than the Rochester clowns. This sort of thing makes me really appreciate the Halifax broadcast team.

[not so fast]

I hope we can find a way to get better players as whole in the league next year.

The cavs team won the game but they fouled nearly every possession while up by 20 in the final 3 minutes. I have never seen anything like that.

The PBL has made it through a very difficult year in the midst of a terrible economy and should be commended.

Next season, we need to find a way to get teams with money, so good players will play, and make sure that all rosters are competitive.

congrats however to the cavs.

[CrookshankJam20]

Final score?

[rocdc]

Final score anyone?

[Chuck the Writer]

Congratulations to Micheal Ray Richardson and the Lawton-Fort Sill Cavalry, winning their third consecutive professional minor league title.

Congratulations also to the Rochester Razorsharks, who were diligent and strong opponents.

Here's the box score from the CREZ for Game 3:

http://stats.crezbasketball.net/games/details.aspx?game=1724&cs=2&season=2010

What a season!

By the way... any OSC'ers in Halifax, anybody want to take me to Pizza Corner when I get there for the All-Star Game? Let me know!

[rocdc]

Biases and loyalties aside...thanks to all of you who posted updates.

See you next season.

[psbf]

Congrats to the Cavs! Was it sold out? What was the turnout?

[bdaly]

What? I thought this thing was rigged for Rochester. Darn, they didn't get the memo. :) Glad that ridiculous theory has been put to bed.

Congrats to the Cavs, they were unbeatable at home, as Rochester found out these last two games.

As for getting teams with more money, stability helps. Last year was better than the first, and this year was better than the last. So the pattern is positive.

Have a good summer all!

[Kev the Cav]

Congrats to the Cavs! Was it sold out? What was the turnout?

Not even close to a sell-out! For 3 years, I've been thinking it was possible to sell-out, but I am giving up hope. I know so many sports fans that I think would love the games and I just can't get them to attend. They ask about the games all the time, but when game day comes around there's always an excuse not to go- usually a pro or college game on TV.

Each year attendance does seem to grow, so maybe it'll gradually get there. Maybe winning the championship at home will turn some of the casual fans into die-hard fans.

Our owners do a great job of putting a quality team on the floor and try to put on an entertaining show during time-outs, so hopefully people will come out next year and see what they've been missing!

[CAVSFAN]

Congratulations to the Lawton/Fort Sill Calvary!!!

This game turned out to not even be close. I really expected this to be down to the wire, last shot type of game.

I estimate the crowd at about 1500. Maybe a little smaller than Sunday night but we sure made some noise!! Great job fans. Next year we need bigger crowds.

Rochester thank you for competing and having the success that you did this year. I think there is a rivalry brewing over this series. I sure expect Halifax and Vermont to be in the mix next year and am already waiting for the 2011 season to get here.

If there was any question of the CAVS coming back next year, Mike Brown settled that by saying the CAVS will be back. Hope we can keep MRR and the team together.

When do they name the League MVP?? All year I would have said DeAnthony Bowden but now leaning to Elvin Mims. Eddie Smith you are a stud. From nearly being cut half way through the season to coming on strong from the 2nd Halifax game to the end of season.

Great job CAVS. GO CAVS Crazy!!!

[Juniper]

This must have been hard for Doc to see his team get beat, and then present the trophy. Congrats to Lawton. Nice season.

[CAVSFAN]

Carrie presented the trophy to the CAVS!!!

[misenern]

Congrats to the Cavs. The best team in the PBL won.

PS. I called the blowout.

[CAVSFAN]

Congrats to the Cavs. The best team in the PBL won.

PS. I called the blowout.

Yes you did and we in Lawton and the Cavalry appreciate your support. Already looking forward to next season. Wishing I could make the trip to Halifax to watch the All Star game. Take it easy on MRR!! LOL

[LandoG]

Yes you did and we in Lawton and the Cavalry appreciate your support. Already looking forward to next season. Wishing I could make the trip to Halifax to watch the All Star game. Take it easy on MRR!! LOL

ya, congrats for sure. Depending on the schedule next year, there might be a few of us Rainmen fans making the trip to Lawton/Fort Sill for the game and some golf along the way...not mention hitting some BBQ joints...talks are already underway.

[Chuck the Writer]

When do they name the League MVP?? All year I would have said DeAnthony Bowden but now leaning to Elvin Mims. Eddie Smith you are a stud. From nearly being cut half way through the season to coming on strong from the 2nd Halifax game to the end of season.

Great job CAVS. GO CAVS Crazy!!!

Elvin Mims was named Playoff MVP.

[CAVSFAN]

ya, congrats for sure. Depending on the schedule next year, there might be a few of us Rainmen fans making the trip to Lawton/Fort Sill for the game and some golf along the way...not mention hitting some BBQ joints...talks are already underway.

if you do come down let me know and will show you around. also hit the golf course.

[CAVSFAN]

Elvin Mims was named Playoff MVP.

yes he was very deserving. I was wondering about League MVP. I think there are alot of guys in the league to be considered.

[CAVSFAN]

ya, congrats for sure. Depending on the schedule next year, there might be a few of us Rainmen fans making the trip to Lawton/Fort Sill for the game and some golf along the way...not mention hitting some BBQ joints...talks are already underway.

hey if we plan far enough in advance maybe can coordinate a little Halifax/CAVS scramble. that would be cool. Drink some beer, eat some longhorn and play golf!!

[LandoG]

sounds great you guys, we'll DEFINITELY take you all up on your very generous invitation! I've been to many of the states, but not Oklahoma and would love to go! Hfx vs. LFS in a golf scramble sounds good, beers and BBQ even better! As soon as the 2011 schedule is released, we'll start making plans on this end!...fair warning, gonna try and get some of the Heckler 's Row blue suits + Rainmen jerseys to take with us! :D...

[CAVSFAN]

that would be great. bring them. the best game in lawton this year was the PR game. about half of them were PR. Lots of noise.

[Kev the Cav]

...fair warning, gonna try and get some of the Heckler 's Row blue suits + Rainmen jerseys to take with us! :D...

Are those the blue suits that even cover their faces? I saw that while watching online and thought it was pretty funny! Do bring them, I want to see that in person!

I really enjoyed the Halifax web casts, good announcers and good production. If I remember correctly, they had several announcers talk and do interviews. I think they even interviewed Brandon Dean from the Cavs after the game.

[utahstarsticketholder]

So the sports reporter guy has renamed the Rochester team.....(drum roll) the Rochester Razorbacks.....(rim shot).... Hey Doc is this true?

[Juniper]

Did somebody point out that the League Commish was not there to present the trophy. If that is the case, this is another first for me. Must be to busy to make the trip out west. Does this happen in other minor leagues? Our baseball team won the Chamionship last year. The Leagues Big Fella was there to hand out the trophy. Congrats again Cav fans. Are all are getting use to this Championship thing?

[CAVSFAN]

Juniper - Carrie handed the CAVS the PBL Trophy.

[Juniper]

Who is Carrie? Acting Commish? I had a chance to see a PBL ball up close. There was name stamped on it. I think it was the commish. It was not Carrie. In most other leagues the Commish present the trophy. Any idea why this did not happen in this league? I would guess the brass was to busy.

[LightningMan]

Who is Carrie? Acting Commish? I had a chance to see a PBL ball up close. There was name stamped on it. I think it was the commish. It was not Carrie. In most other leagues the Commish present the trophy. Any idea why this did not happen in this league? I would guess the brass was to busy.
Is this really a problem, Juniper? Really?

[Chuck the Writer]

Who is Carrie? Acting Commish? I had a chance to see a PBL ball up close. There was name stamped on it. I think it was the commish. It was not Carrie. In most other leagues the Commish present the trophy. Any idea why this did not happen in this league? I would guess the brass was to busy.

Carrie May is the director of operations for the PBL. She is part of the PBL front office, and is equally qualified to handing the trophy to the playoff champion.

[Juniper]

From what I understand she did a great job. No Lightning, I don't see it as a problem. I am sure due to Carrie doing such an outstanding job, they gave her the opportunity to hand the trophy. I just don't see other leagues doing this. Do you? You are such an expert at minor league basketball, I enjoy your feed back.

[CAVSFAN]

Carrie was in Lawton for both playoff games with the Razorsharks. I did not see it as a big deal that she handed the trophy to the CAVS. During the games she was all over the place in the GPC. She spent time talking to coaches and the owners of the CAVS.

[LightningMan]

From what I understand she did a great job. No Lightning, I don't see it as a problem. I am sure due to Carrie doing such an outstanding job, they gave her the opportunity to hand the trophy. I just don't see other leagues doing this. Do you? You are such an expert at minor league basketball, I enjoy your feed back.
I am not an expert. I am a fan.

[confused]

I was wondering why Lightningman has something negative about Juniper's post. I think I have figured it out. They are both NC guys. Juniper must be a Carolina fan, and Lightningman must be a State fan. I like the Citadel from SC. Time to have fun. Have a fun off season.

[LightningMan]

I was wondering why Lightningman has something negative about Juniper's post. I think I have figured it out. They are both NC guys. Juniper must be a Carolina fan, and LightningMan must be a State fan. I like the Citadel from SC. Time to have fun. Have a fun off season.
Collegiately, I root for Ohio State and the University of Akron. I'm from Ohio. I just live in NC.

As to the tenor of my post, I didn't understand what Juniper's issue was with Carrie handing out the championship trophy. Still don't.

[Ken, Steelheads fan]

The commissioner hands the trophy to the winning team. That's protocol.

[Precious Roy]

The commissioner hands the trophy to the winning team. That's protocol.

Which is why the PBL needs an independent commissioner, and I have ideas on who I'd like to see as the person to take over the job.

[LightningMan]

We have had a lot of teapot tempests here but this has to be the dumbest. If my beloved Cavs (the Cleveland variety) are fortunate enough to win the Larry O'Brien trophy, I really won't care if they get handed it by David Stern Howard Stern Dwight Howard Reggie Dwight Reggie Jackson Michael Jackson Michael W. Smith or Kenny "the Jet" Smith. I just want the trophy.

Aren't there other real issues to worry about?

[Precious Roy]

We have had a lot of teapot tempests here but this has to be the dumbest. If my beloved Cavs (the Cleveland variety) are fortunate enough to win the Larry O'Brien trophy, I really won't care if they get handed it by David Stern Howard Stern Dwight Howard Reggie Dwight Reggie Jackson Michael Jackson Michael W. Smith or Kenny "the Jet" Smith. I just want the trophy.

Aren't there other real issues to worry about?

Of course, like a salary floor, an independent commissioner, overall league stability and whatnot.
Personally, I have no ties to the Cavs other than I cover them so I don't care who gives out the trophy, but there are things that the PBL needs to have done to be a stable and successful league.

[CAVSFAN]

The commissioner hands the trophy to the winning team. That's protocol.

Guess protocol does not always work. The commissioner did not hand the tropy to the CAVS, CARRIE Mays, Director of Operations did.

Personally I would not have cared if Mickey Mouse had handed the CAVS the trophy as long as it was presented.

[CAVman60]

Lord Cornwallis didn't hand over his sword at Yorktown as was protocol, but Washington's victory was just as sweet. It didn't matter that General O'hara did the honors! Same thing here. The lack of protocol was noted and will become a footnote. The Cavs victory is what mattered most.

[CAVSFAN]

Lord Cornwallis didn't hand over his sword at Yorktown as was protocol, but Washington's victory was just as sweet. It didn't matter that General O'hara did the honors! Same thing here. The lack of protocol was noted and will become a footnote. The Cavs victory is what mattered most.

AMEN to that CAVman!!! GO CAVS crazy

[Ken, Steelheads fan]

I've seen four championships settled at US Steel Yard in Gary and one CBA championship settled in Gary. All five times the league commissioner strolled out to the middle of the playing surface to present the championship trophy to the winning team. I've watched an AHL championship final on tv where the AHL commissioner presented the cup to the winning team. This Youtube video shows then IHL commissioner, Paul Pickard presenting the 2009 Turner Cup to the Fort Wayne Komets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFVPWby8p3U&feature=related. The league commissioner has presented the winning team its championship trophy every time I've watched a major league final game.

The commissioner presents the winning team the championship trophy. However, it may be true that the PBL commissioner was too busy that day. Also, it may be true that it doesn't matter who presents the trophy in the PBL. It's only protocol. It's not like it's written in stone.

[confused]

It is just pointing out the fact of doing things the right way. It sure is not a big deal. It is just when you put many little things that were not done right together, they become big. As also pointed out about the Coach MRR, if you use bad language, and get into verbal wars with fan once, its not a big deal. When it continues to happen, it is a big deal. I my eyes he will never make it to the NBA, because they don't need or want a Coach that acts that way. Coach Baker is much closer to that goal it looks to me. He is a very nice man.

[psbf]

I saw some of the L.A. at OKC playoff game earlier on ESPN and I could see why the Cavs were not close to selling out. The Thunder had crowds outside their facility watching the game(as the Pens do here. An estimated several thousand outside watched the Pens win tonight).

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

I saw some of the L.A. at OKC playoff game earlier on ESPN and I could see why the Cavs were not close to selling out. The Thunder had crowds outside their facility watching the game(as the Pens do here. An estimated several thousand outside watched the Pens win tonight).

It is a looooooooooooong stretch to compare the fan base enthusiasm of the Thunder and the Cavalry, especially considering they are nearly 100 miles apart.

[Precious Roy]

It is a looooooooooooong stretch to compare the fan base enthusiasm of the Thunder and the Cavalry, especially considering they are nearly 100 miles apart.

You would be surprised. Oklahoma City is only about 45 minutes from here and the people here have it ingrained in us from youth that the trip feels shorter because the fun stuff is in the City. Lawton has A LOT of Thunder fans, and it's only growing. The Cavs will have to learn how to work around the fanbase from this point forward cause OKC is only going to get better. If the Cavs do a better job of giving Thunder fans basketball on non-OKC night then they may be able to capitalize on that momentum.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

You would be surprised. Oklahoma City is only about 45 minutes from here and the people here have it ingrained in us from youth that the trip feels shorter because the fun stuff is in the City. Lawton has A LOT of Thunder fans, and it's only growing. The Cavs will have to learn how to work around the fanbase from this point forward cause OKC is only going to get better. If the Cavs do a better job of giving Thunder fans basketball on non-OKC night then they may be able to capitalize on that momentum.

I don't doubt anything you said; but making the comparison of the following for an NBA team - in the midst of its first playoff run and with one of the league's rising stars - and a lower level minor league team is a reach.

What was the attendance for LFS before the Thunder arrived, and how does the attendance at these finals compare to what they have drawn over the years, including when they were the 'only game in town?'

[psbf]

I don't know anything about Oklahoma cities, aside from what I hear on the news or see when their games are televised. I gather my info from what I read in posts(or don't read) and from what I summarized, the Cavs did well in turnouts when in the CBA, but they seem to have struggled since they switched to the PBL and OKC has done well since moving from Seattle.
I could be wrong, but the only chats I trust to give me an accurate answer are those who currently LIVE in Oklahoma.

[Precious Roy]

Turnout has never been very good. That's just a fact. The first season the Cavs played a schedule that spanned from fall (football season) to spring. That season fans started coming once Oklahoma was done in football. The second season was a complete joke and since fans didn't know if a team was even going to play night in and night out attendance was terrible. This season, the Cavs finally had a sellout and the crowds started to come as more and more people were able to see that this year had some stability in at least the schedule's concern. They could count on teams coming and playing when they said they would. The Cavs had their first sellout this season, and attendance rose for all I could see (I've been the beat writer since the beginning). The Thunder's playoff run may not have had a lot to do with bad attendance, but having a playoff game at home with the atmosphere that was generated up in OKC being the same night as a Cavs finals game is not a long stretch to think that a lot of people either made the trip up there or wanted to stay home and watch the Thunder push the Lakers to a possible Game 7. Hell, when I got done with my story it's all I wanted to watch too. With the PBL giving a hint of stability to the Cavs organization, I think attendance will continue to climb just as it has over the last three seasons.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

I don't know anything about Oklahoma cities, aside from what I hear on the news or see when their games are televised. I gather my info from what I read in posts(or don't read) and from what I summarized, the Cavs did well in turnouts when in the CBA, but they seem to have struggled since they switched to the PBL and OKC has done well since moving from Seattle.
I could be wrong, but the only chats I trust to give me an accurate answer are those who currently LIVE in Oklahoma.

No need to LIVE in a state to have an informed opinion - if you follow a sport and pay attention, you can make logical conclusions.

As Roy pointed out LFS has not been a big draw even before the Thunder appeared two years ago, and no doubt when the Hornets played in OKC as well (if they were around then; not sure when the Cavs began). And it is almost a wasted effort to compare the drawing power of an NBA team and ANY nearby low-level minor league franchise. Based upon the attendance (or lack thereof) in any multi-team market, there has been NO correlation between NBA interest and an increase in ABA/PBL attendance, etc. The few teams that do draw well are exclusively minor league markets, and even that is a short list.

OKC proved it was a major league market with the Hornets, and their fan base was rewarded with the relocation (at the expense of Seattle's fans, but that would be an entirely different thread). They have embraced the team, and having success so early in their honeymoon certainly helps cement them as a major league market - and having one of the most dynamic players in the NBA is a huge bonus as well.

[CAVSFAN]

I have been a season ticket holder for the 3 years that the CAVS have played here. Over the years the crowds have started to get a little larger. The crowds have been big for the PR, Rochester and Halifax. Well maybe big is a little far fetched. THe PR game was a sellout. A large pieve of the crowd was from the PR population in the community who have continued to support the CAVS.

Oklahoma has always been a Oklahoma Sooner State for football and a big supporter of High School athletics. Oklahoma City and the area around there have a full grasp of the Oklahoma Thunder (as they should). I go to 2 or 3 games a year there and it is always 19,000 loud fans (hence the name loud city).

Lawton/Ft Sill is a community of maybe 150,000 (if you count all the little towns nearby). If there is a high school basketball, football or band competition the fans are going to go there. Also, choice between NFL football and going to a basketball game people will choose the NFL. That is except the people that are totally behind the CAVS.

GPC seats about 2500- 2600. I would say the crowds for the Rochester and halifax games were about 1500- 1600. Fairly small but very large. Getting the word out to the fans has been a little slow and maybe with a little margeting help more fans will have fannies in the seats next year (or better yet, standing and rooting loudly)

[psbf]

I disagree, RWB. An informed opinion is just that, an OPINION! There is no substitute for being there! I don't care how much someone things they my know about a team/game/location, if you have never been there it means nothing(imo).
I mean, I watch games that are provided online but problems come up like buffering or there may be problems with the feed(technical difficulties) or even if it is picture perfect, that is still not being there.
I had critics when I was a season ticket holder and I got so tired of always having to prove myself!

[LightningMan]

I disagree, RWB. An informed opinion is just that, an OPINION! There is no substitute for being there! I don't care how much someone things they my know about a team/game/location, if you have never been there it means nothing(imo).
I mean, I watch games that are provided online but problems come up like buffering or there may be problems with the feed(technical difficulties) or even if it is picture perfect, that is still not being there.
I had critics when I was a season ticket holder and I got so tired of always having to prove myself!
Being there is not ipso facto better than observing from afar. I think more depends on what you see and your understanding of it. I would rather have an expert inform me from far away than getting information from an idiot who happens to be on the scene.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Being there is not ipso facto better than observing from afar. I think more depends on what you see and your understanding of it. I would rather have an expert inform me from far away than getting information from an idiot who happens to be on the scene.

I wouldn't have said it in quite the same way ( ;) ) but I agree with you.

I disagree, RWB. An informed opinion is just that, an OPINION! There is no substitute for being there! I don't care how much someone things they my know about a team/game/location, if you have never been there it means nothing(imo).
I mean, I watch games that are provided online but problems come up like buffering or there may be problems with the feed(technical difficulties) or even if it is picture perfect, that is still not being there.

An informed opinion from someone in Oklahoma or Yokahoma is legitimate by its very definition - where the word 'informed' suggests more than just a rash, first-glance utrerance, but actually has reason and logic behind it.

The fact that the opposing viewpoint comes from me is probably your biggest hang-up; this dance of you making unsubstantiated statements and me refuting them with facts (or 'informed opinions' based upon available research) annoys you, so you use your old, worn "you aren't (t)here; so how do you know?" line.

And, BTW - the posts inthis thread from OK fans seem to actually support my original point, made all the way from here in New Jersey. Bummer, huh?

[CAVSFAN]

Being there is not ipso facto better than observing from afar. I think more depends on what you see and your understanding of it. I would rather have an expert inform me from far away than getting information from an idiot who happens to be on the scene.

a better use of words might get a more appropriate response

[LightningMan]

A better use of words might get a more appropriate response.
A better use of words by whom might get a more appropriate response to what?

I'm sorry if my use of the word idiot bothered you, but there are no idioms for a stupid person that are received favorably, and I needed to make the point that the observer is more crucial than the point of observation. Moreover, the person with whom I am agreeing, ABARWB, got the point.

Just to be clear, I have no opinion on the Cavs situation vis a vis attendance. I merely disagree (vehemently) with PSBF with the notion that being in OK is in and of itself better to discern the point.

[glbrz]

I would rather have an expert Oklahoman inform me from the scene than get information from an idiot who happens not to be on the scene.

You sort of gave the impression Okies are idiots. We disagree!

[psbf]

I have a lot of respect for you, LM(you being a Wilmington fan). Anyone who has seen my posts knows that I never resort to name calling(which makes it personal).
When the Xplosion(CBA) were around, I felt a lot of disrespect from many of my fellow posters who felt the need to act like Pittsburghers and know about my team. I bring this up because I respect Cavs fans and I can relate to how they feel about their team.

[LightningMan]

You sort of gave the impression Okies are idiots.
That was not the implication and I am sorry if any Okie inferred that.

[LightningMan]

I have a lot of respect for you, LM(you being a Wilmington fan). Anyone who has seen my posts knows that I never resort to name calling(which makes it personal).
Exactly whom did I call a name? Read what I wrote.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

When the Xplosion(CBA) were around, I felt a lot of disrespect from many of my fellow posters who felt the need to act like Pittsburghers and know about my team. I bring this up because I respect Cavs fans and I can relate to how they feel about their team.

Which is all well and good, but has absolutely no connection to the topic being discussed; namely, the amount of fan interest/attendance at LFS games vs. the Thunder (and, as pointed out here, HS sports, Sooner sports, etc.).

When you are factually incorrect, or make statements that cannot be supported, your thin-skin reactions just make it worse. We don't have to "act like Pittsburghers" to have a sense of what is going on (although, having been born there and very proud of that, I would view acting like a Pittsburgher as a positive - why don't you?)

[psbf]

LM, I was referring to the term 'idiot' that I read.

RWB, get off your high horse, you seem to have a negative response for everything I post.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

LM, I was referring to the term 'idiot' that I read.

RWB, get off your high horse, you seem to have a negative response for everything I post.

Nah - just the things you post that I don't agree with or are factually incorrect - here on a "discussion board" - there's that thin skin again..

Giddy up!
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[LightningMan]

LM, I was referring to the term 'idiot' that I read.
Did I call anyone an idiot? Apparently you and at least one other person think that I did. But if you read what I wrote, I wasn't referring to anyone specifically, just that I'd rather listen to an expert than an idiot, regardless of their respective locations. No name calling.

[nksports]

That was not the implication and I am sorry if any Okie inferred that.

Y'all gave me a great idea for an expansion franchise — The Muskogee Okies. "A place where even squares can have a ball." (for all you Merle fans out there).