Penalty Question

[newiflfan]

While listening to the LaCrosse/West Michigan game last night there was a call late in the fourth quarter that left me scratching my head. Because I was only listening to the audio feed by the hometown radio announcers I might not have the 'whole story' on what happened, but here's what it seemed like....



-West Michigan kicked off to LaCrosse after a score (field goal?). During the return some sort of penalty was called against LaCrosse. I wasn't able to tell who it was on, but from what the radio guys were saying it almost sounds like it was called against the coach...?

-There was a long delay after the play ended, I believe the refs were discussing what was called. Following the delay the refs called for a redo of the kickoff.

-Kickoff was redone. Following the LaCrosse return the penalty was assessed.



Ok, here's my question(s). Why in the world would the refs call for a redo on the kickoff? And after the redo, why did they still assess the penalty? It seems to me that in calling for a redo, they were "undoing" the penalty that was called.

[50 Yard Fan]

From what I heard, the Spartan player went down on one knee to field the squib kick. When he picked up the ball the refs immediately called the play dead, because the player was down on one knee.
I believe the coach started yelling at the refs for calling the player down, so he received a penalty.
After a discussion the refs realized the blowing the play dead was the incorrect call, so they did a redo :rolleyes: on the kick.
After the kick they still penalized the coach for unsportsmanlike conduct. :eek:

I am not sure if the redo or keeping the penalty were the right calls.

[newiflfan]

Thanks for helping to make the situation a little more clear. The radio guys were too busy making groaning sounds to actually explain what was going on.

At the very least you'd think it would have been one or the other, the redo or the penalty, but not both. :rolleyes:

[Micah008]

I was at the game, and '50 Yard Fan' is correct.

The refs shouldn't have blown the play dead, no one was never near the return man, which is why there was a re-kick. (Which actually ended up worse for the Spartans by the way... since they didn't even get it out of the endzone after a bad bounce... and the other would have been closer to the 10)

The coach that was penalized was Gilbert, for complaining about the bad call, which was well after that play ended.

The reason it was both re-do and penalty was because they were for different reasons (bad call by the refs, and unsportsmanlike on the coach)

[Micah008]

Here is a good decription of what happened.

http://goifl.com/news/index.html?article_id=2435

[dagr8_1_4ever]

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Sounds like an inadvertent whistle which normal makes the play dead at that point. Typically not a do-over. Never seen that one in a rule book. However, with each league having there own vague rules and interpretations nothing surprises me anymore.

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[myway]

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Sounds like an inadvertent whistle which normal makes the play dead at that point. Typically not a do-over. Never seen that one in a rule book. However, with each league having there own vague rules and interpretations nothing surprises me anymore.

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Actually for an inadvertent whistle there are 2 options available. The option is to accept the result of the play or to redo the play.