View Full Version : Is Lake Charles Bitter?
Minor League Mania
03-28-2010, 09:52 AM
I saw the league press release (http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3980598) that came before the 88-32 by the mighty Columbus Lions over the Louisiana Swashbucklers. The release refered the two teams as mirror images of each other. Looks like the Swashbucklers should take another look in the mirror. Columbus is by far the best team in the league on and off the field. I think this speaks to the competition that Columbus has faced in the last couple of years starting out with the WIFL then the AIFA. They were some good teams like the Mudcats, Speed, Colts/Spartans, Phantoms and Titans amoung more. Although the AIFA has really dropped off the map lately, they had some really good teams. I hope in future years maybe some of those teams can pop back up somewhere. I think this years battle will be for 2nd place.
I am not real sure where you got bitter from a "League" press release, but that might be the furthest thing from the truth. Nothing in the press release was bitter, it was actually giving props to the Columbus team while still highlighting the Bucs. See the coolest part of the whole deal that you didn't seem to read is that, Matthew Hester wrote the article, and last time that I checked and I could be wrong, he isn't affiliated with the BUCS just the SIFL. So it sounds like you and your version of this article is "sadly mistaken". I will say that the Lions gave us all we wanted and that is something that I have never seen happen to the Bucs, so with that being said congrats. But please don't try to start up controversy over an article... There is a reason why we haven't lost a game in our house in over 4 years. So, buckle up and get ready for a season... I promise you that what you saw Saturday night was a fluke... you aren't that good!!
BUCKLE UP!!
GregB
03-28-2010, 10:54 AM
I am not real sure where you got bitter from a "League" press release, but that might be the furthest thing from the truth. Nothing in the press release was bitter, it was actually giving props to the Columbus team while still highlighting the Bucs. See the coolest part of the whole deal that you didn't seem to read is that, Matthew Hester wrote the article, and last time that I checked and I could be wrong, he isn't affiliated with the BUCS just the SIFL. So it sounds like you and your version of this article is "sadly mistaken". I will say that the Lions gave us all we wanted and that is something that I have never seen happen to the Bucs, so with that being said congrats. But please don't try to start up controversy over an article... There is a reason why we haven't lost a game in our house in over 4 years. So, buckle up and get ready for a season... I promise you that what you saw Saturday night was a fluke... you aren't that good!!
BUCKLE UP!!
While the Lions did struggle a little on offense, the Bucs looked awful in all 3 phases. #17 Knight was the only player out there playing solid football (he was a cool guy, too, he was having fun with the Lions fans). Almost every snap was over the head of the QB (2 of those resulted in safeties). The bucs did not have a kicker (no XP attempted, the kick offs were all squib kicks that when about 25 yards). Maybe they just had an off-night, but it looks like they have a lot of work to do.
gonzo13
03-28-2010, 10:56 AM
Sorry Mace, a last second fieldgoal, or a hail mary pass may be considered a fluke. A 55 point thrashing, no matter where the game is played, is NOT a fluke.
dagr8_1_4ever
03-28-2010, 11:54 AM
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I thought it was a well written article. It compared two teams that have both been successful with Lake Charles having a few more banners in their rafters. It did a good job of compare and contrast two teams that hadn't met in the past and on paper it appeared it would be a great match-up. Although when the teams finally hit the field the Lions showed that the tougher schedules in past years have made them a better team because of it.
Did not having their kicker hurt last night, SURE!
But is a kicker worth 55 points a game, I DON'T THINK SO.
Hopefully, when Albany starts this week we will see a league that will be fairly equal in competition. I personally don't think Columbus will go undefeated but they have definitely set themselves up as the head of the class for now.
Minor League Mania
03-28-2010, 01:50 PM
I am aware that Mathew wrote the article and I am not saying anything bad about the article. I thought it was a well written article as all of his stuff is. It did hype the game as the clash of the 2 best teams in the league. What I am saying is that Columbus proved that they are indeed the better team by far and in my opinion it has to do with previous competition and also some good off-season moves. Lake Charles is known as bieng a team that talks a good game. I heard some stories about how they were over confident that they would own the league in 2010. Even started predicting final scores for there opponents.They might have got put back in there place a little. I do think they will finish 2nd however. Good teams, good fans, and good arena. Just not better than the Lions.
Caballo Diablo
03-28-2010, 02:02 PM
See the coolest part of the whole deal that you didn't seem to read is that, Matthew Hester wrote the article, and last time that I checked and I could be wrong, he isn't affiliated with the BUCS just the SIFL.
?? There's a difference ??
Caballo--- I am in NO WAY AFFILIATED with the Louisiana Swashbucklers and a im quite offended that you of all people would make that statement!
Rob, is the above post what you're refering to?
I didn't see your name there? I've always supported you and spoke highly of you.
Yes, you work for the SIFL, as does Hester. It's been said Hester also works for the Lions.
My post was about the `Bucs and the SIFL, a tongue and cheek chuckle, not sure why you felt it was about you.
Does the `Bucs owner have anything to do with the SIFL? Isn't he the one that put it all together? From day one hasn't most wondered about a conflict of interest? Heck, I even defended that. Didin't he list the team for sale on CRAIGS LIST?
If we can't chuckle over the most powerful man in the SIFL owning the only pre-existing team in the league last season than some of you need a vacation to chilax.
gonzo13
03-28-2010, 03:38 PM
For the record, Matt Hester is the league MR guy, and serves in the same capacity for the COLUMBUS LIONS.
No... I agree the BUCS got lashed... in the last statement of my message I said, they got taken to the woodshed. But, the starting center didn't even make the trip due to previous obligations. Our kicker got rolled up on in the game against the crush... so I have NO FREAKING CLUE what we are going to do without him. But you will find that this is a top notch organization, irregardless of what DiaBLOW tells everyone. Dude... your team is in another league getting beat up on there... stay in your own forum if you are going to be condescending. That is not what has won us 3 back to back to back Championships, nor will that win us another. I applaud the Columbus Lions for beating them like that... maybe it will awaken the beast... ask the TurfKittens about what happens, or maybe we have passed our glory days... BUT I DONT THINK SO!!!
BUCKLE UP!!
sportznut
03-28-2010, 07:38 PM
Caballo--- I am in NO WAY AFFILIATED with the Louisiana Swashbucklers and a im quite offended that you of all people would make that statement!
THats what kind of an ass he is... that was by fay the most ignorant statement, but we know he's not ignorant, so he was just being asinine. But thats nothing new coming from someone thats so NEGATIVE anyway.
daytonadan
03-28-2010, 07:54 PM
The storyline, in my professional opinion...
How could one of the most storied teams in the sport's recent history be so woefully unprepared and equipped to play in its league's marquee games?
Also, the Industrial Revolution was neither industrial nor revolutionary. Discus!
You know Dan, I was wondering that same thing. I hope that letting Coach DLee walk wasn't the downfall. I'm sure that Coach Mac will find his leggs, but how long will it take?
GregB
03-28-2010, 08:16 PM
Yes, I would be very concerned about a team that has only one player that knows how to snap a ball (although that guy might be a good long snapper :-) ) Kicker is a little different, but usually you have a guy on call that you can bring in. I was at an AFL game once where they pulled a guy out of the stands to kick (he was a friend of one of the players or coaches).
IndoorExpert
03-29-2010, 12:07 AM
I have to say that I am a little disappointed by the league recognizing the Crunch game as a victory. They took the game about a week before kick-off, and unless everyone plays the Crunch, this victory should not be in the standings. The post game press release was that the BUCKS broke 8 league records. Now they get completely out played by Columbus.
We cannot keep giving these (professional) teams excuses for what they do. If the Center did not play, they had to know that well before game night. Many teams over the years have gone without kickers and prevailed. Lets not make any excuses for the loss.
Having a 1-1 record seems almost comical at this point.
Oh I definitely agree about not making excuses for this, I was just stating the facts about the two players that were out. And as far as the 1-1 at this point, I will give you Keeshawn Johnson's famous Sunday night say... Come On Man! Too early to start saying words like comical. The thing that was comical was the tail whopping that the BUCS took Saturday night, or the fact that DiaBLOW came in here running his mouth.
Lets not start running the rumor mills about whats a fluke or how much better team A is over team B, when there hasn't been enough games played for a good team evaluation. By week 6 we will know who's playing and who's getting played. Lets just hope that our teams are on the playing side.
BUCKLE UP!!
Caballo Diablo
03-29-2010, 05:46 PM
But you will find that this is a top notch organization, irregardless of what DiaBLOW tells everyone. Dude... your team is in another league getting beat up on there... stay in your own forum if you are going to be condescending. That is not what has won us 3 back to back to back Championships, nor will that win us another.
You show your true colors, way to ruin any points you try to make with your childish pranks and name calling. That's typical of people without a clue. - lol
Where have I been telling people that the `Bucs were a poor organization?
Your attack is baseless.
Now a good portion of the fan base is classless. I was at the championship game on the T-Cat bench. The Jack Sparrow wannabes were throwing batteries and empty gun casings at the players anf staff all game. The players had to endure being shot in the eyes all night with gun powder, the sulfer burns the eyes. It was so thick you could brush it off the top of the walls and it was like your hair was full of sand.
10-12 year old kids lined the front row at the players bench and screamed obscenitites at the players and staff all game. They couldn't say a sentence without 3 or 4 F-bombs. Other fans in the stands were dumping beer and other drinks on the T-Cat fans and forced a few out of their seats.
The organization does have a little responsiblility with crowd control. The 2 police officers in the bench area were asked about and they just laughed. When showed the things the fanes were throwing the police just laughed and said it wasn't ilegal. HUH?
You can say I just made it all up, but it's on record. I spoke with the police, the `Bucs GM and safety officer that night. A letter was written to every single Director for the SIFL the following day.
Look around your own arena before calling me out. I've got lots of reason to call the `Bucs and SIFL out but have avoided bad mouthing them.
I didn't realize there were forum rules stating we could only post in threads about one league? I'm sure I've seen you talk about other leagues. My team is getting beat up in another league? Another childish lie. they're 1-1 so we don't know how they'll fare. How many would call 1-1 getting beat on? - PFFFT! But my team did beat the `Buc's last season.
3 peat, once again- PFFFT! Last season the `Bucs were the only existing team playing all first year expansion teams. Before the season everyone projected then to walk all over everyone, how'd that work out for ya?
You finally played a real team and got whooped, quit puffing your chest out and get real.
Caballo Diablo
03-29-2010, 06:00 PM
THats what kind of an ass he is... that was by fay the most ignorant statement, but we know he's not ignorant, so he was just being asinine. But thats nothing new coming from someone thats so NEGATIVE anyway.
really mace, more name calling because you're wrong.
Dan has spoke more to the SIFL problems than me, why don't you call him out instead of make up lie about me? I thought you were better than this, but maybe you do belong with the other fools.
If people don't like the discussions about the obvious negatives that are happening maybe you're the one that needs to stay out of it. Honest people discuss both the positives and negatives, brown nosers just kiss butt.
Caballo Diablo
03-29-2010, 06:01 PM
The storyline, in my professional opinion...
How could one of the most storied teams in the sport's recent history be so woefully unprepared and equipped to play in its league's marquee games?
Also, the Industrial Revolution was neither industrial nor revolutionary. Discus!
Stop being so negative Dan or you'll be called names by the classless next.
Caballo Diablo
03-29-2010, 06:02 PM
Yes, I would be very concerned about a team that has only one player that knows how to snap a ball (although that guy might be a good long snapper :-) ) Kicker is a little different, but usually you have a guy on call that you can bring in. I was at an AFL game once where they pulled a guy out of the stands to kick (he was a friend of one of the players or coaches).
It's called an excuse.
?? There's a difference ??
Rob, is the above post what you're refering to?
I didn't see your name there? I've always supported you and spoke highly of you.
Yes, you work for the SIFL, as does Hester. It's been said Hester also works for the Lions.
My post was about the `Bucs and the SIFL, a tongue and cheek chuckle, not sure why you felt it was about you.
Does the `Bucs owner have anything to do with the SIFL? Isn't he the one that put it all together? From day one hasn't most wondered about a conflict of interest? Heck, I even defended that. Didin't he list the team for sale on CRAIGS LIST?
If we can't chuckle over the most powerful man in the SIFL owning the only pre-existing team in the league last season than some of you need a vacation to chilax.
This is what I was talking about... but I am truely sorry that I stooped down into this conversation. Have a great life!
daytonadan
03-30-2010, 08:27 AM
Caballo telling people to chilax. How... interesting.
Caballo Diablo
03-30-2010, 09:02 AM
Caballo telling people to chilax. How... interesting.
Dan, you and I are more alike in our posting than you might realize. For the most part it's all entertainment. We poke certain people with sticks for fun and it's mostly done from a humorous angle. Problem is everyone has a different perception and have difficulty separating a chuckle from sarcasm to a low blow.
The problem doesn't seem to be as much with differing opinion as it is with escalating misinterpretation. Bottom line we're all fans of the sport and want it to succeed universally for the most part. One section of the industry failing hurts us all no matter which league is being blasted from day to day.
daytonadan
03-30-2010, 09:32 AM
And Steve pulls the kumbaya and the discussion ends ... for now.
Or.....does it?
Like you said, I can't be bothered to show up sometimes....
Dan, you and I are more alike in our posting than you might realize. For the most part it's all entertainment. We poke certain people with sticks for fun and it's mostly done from a humorous angle. Problem is everyone has a different perception and have difficulty separating a chuckle from sarcasm to a low blow.
The problem doesn't seem to be as much with differing opinion as it is with escalating misinterpretation. Bottom line we're all fans of the sport and want it to succeed universally for the most part. One section of the industry failing hurts us all no matter which league is being blasted from day to day.
I can agree with you on this Diablo... in the end, we want them all to succeed, but I think that constantly harping on the negatives is just that, NEGATIVE. Not saying that its just you, just saying that it seems to happen alot.
Buckle up!
King Of The Jungle
03-30-2010, 09:33 PM
The facts are that the center and kicker were both out for the Bucs. The thing is decent kickers are easy to find (Good kickers not so easy) and they had a week to find one. It was by choice that they had to go for 2 when they scored and they had no chance of a field goal or uno. Like I said that was by coach’s choice and in hindsight it doesn't appear to be a good choice. So, the kicker excuse carries no merit because they could have had one if they had wanted one. As for the center, they knew he was and the other O lineman was going to be out because of college coaching duties BEFORE the season started but, they chose to go with the lineup they put on the field instead of getting replacements. The coach's job is to put his best team on the field. I am sure he did it to the best of his ability. So, if that is the case then the "facts" as they have been stated previously are born of choices by the Bucs and therefore, take none of the luster off of what was a fine victory by an expansion team.
I am a little surprised that no one is mentioning the fact that Columbus's center hurt his hand Thursday and almost didn't play. He had trouble gripping the ball and using the hand to block. But, he manned up and played against a tough D-line under difficult circumstances. Also 2008 D-line starter Elbert Shumake was out and hasn't practiced in 2 weeks. So, Columbus wasn't at full strength either. The point is, I have never seen an indoor or outdoor game where everyone was full strength. It just doesn't happen. What I saw was a game that went Columbus's way and both teams handled themselves with class in what turned out to be a lopsided situation. I expect the same conduct next time.
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