Playoff Standings as of March 22

[Frost Heaves Fan]

AS OF MARCH 22, 2010

QUALIFIED FOR PLAYOFFS (top four teams enter playoffs)
Team W L .PCT
Lawton-Fort Sill 15 2 .882
Puerto Rico 14 3 .823

TEAMS IN PLAYOFF HUNT
Team W L .PCT
Rochester 12 4 .750
Halifax 10 5 .667
Vermont 9 7 .562

TEAMS OUT OF PLAYOFFS
Team W L .PCT
Manchester 6 13 .316
Maryland 3 14 .177
Buffalo 3 14 .177
Quebec 2 12 .142

[bluenoser]

If VER (9-7 with MD, ROC, QUE and HAL all at home left to play) and HAL (10-5 with @MD, LFS, @VER, @BUF and QUE left) are tied, who wins the tiebreaker?

PBL TIEBREAKERS
In the event that two or more teams are tied in terms of playoff seeding, the following tiebreakers will take place, in order of importance:
• (1) winning percentage;
• (2) if still a tie, head-to-head record shall determine the winner;
• (3) if still a tie, head-to-head record against each team in their division will determine the winner;
• (4) if still a tie, points scored in head to head competition will determine the winner;
• (5) if still a tie, average margin of victory in head to head competition will determine the winner;
• (6) if still a tie, the team correctly calling the flip of a coin will be seeded higher.


If they're tied at the end, probably that means VER beats HAL in the game AT VER, and (1), (2), (3) (divisions?) are equal and (4) would be the tiebreaker - right?

[Frost Heaves Fan]

If VER (9-7 with MD, ROC, QUE and HAL all at home left to play) and HAL (10-5 with @MD, LFS, @VER, @BUF and QUE left) are tied, who wins the tiebreaker?

PBL TIEBREAKERS
In the event that two or more teams are tied in terms of playoff seeding, the following tiebreakers will take place, in order of importance:
• (1) winning percentage;
• (2) if still a tie, head-to-head record shall determine the winner;
• (3) if still a tie, head-to-head record against each team in their division will determine the winner;
• (4) if still a tie, points scored in head to head competition will determine the winner;
• (5) if still a tie, average margin of victory in head to head competition will determine the winner;
• (6) if still a tie, the team correctly calling the flip of a coin will be seeded higher.


If they're tied at the end, probably that means VER beats HAL in the game AT VER, and (1), (2), (3) (divisions?) are equal and (4) would be the tiebreaker - right?

May not need a tie breaker!!!! I read in another basketball site that PR may not be in the PBL playoffs because of the BSN season and schedule. If this is correct then Halifax and VT would both make the top 4. Then everyone is happy. If this happens then OK would probably be the champs!!

[CHris902]

Do you have a link to this? It'd really make things interesting if this were the case.

[OKCAVS67]

Interesting to say the least. PR plays a great game and bring a great crowd with them.

We, here in Oklahoma, are looking forward to seeing PR here for the finals.
Would be an awesome matchup for the champoinship too.

So if that is the case then we would be looking at :

1. Oklahoma
2. Rochester
3. Vermont (Halifax)
4. Halifax (Vermont)

For the playoffs.

Still would be interesting matchups.

[Frost Heaves Fan]

Do you have a link to this? It'd really make things interesting if this were the case.

I think I saw this 2-3 weeks ago and can't remember the exact site. It may have been BSN site or US Basket. But as I said they may not be able to be in the playoffs. Nothing definite at this point, this was the impression I got.

[bluenoser]

I think I saw this 2-3 weeks ago and can't remember the exact site. It may have been BSN site or US Basket. But as I said they may not be able to be in the playoffs. Nothing definite at this point, this was the impression I got.

It looks to me that PR may not have time to play the PBL playoffs ...

ABRIL VISITANTE LOCAL
Domingo 4 ARECIBO BAYAMON
Lunes 5 HUMACAO ARECIBO
Jueves 8 GUAYNABO ARECIBO
Sábado 10 ARECIBO HUMACAO
Lunes 12 ARECIBO GUAYNABO
Jueves 15 SAN GERMAN ARECIBO
Viernes 16 QUEBRADILLAS ARECIBO
Jueves 22 ARECIBO ISABELA
Viernes 23 ARECIBO SAN GERMAN
Martes 27 SANTURCE ARECIBO
Viernes 30 ARECIBO SAN GERMAN

[The Sweeper]

If Puerto Rico cannot compete in the PBL post season, I see two scenarios.

1. The league still has the 4 team play offs. With LFS at #1 and Rochester at #2 taking on Halifax and VT in whatever order they finish in. This would be logical.

2. The league states that since Puerto Rico cannot compete in the playoffs, that it forfeits the playoff series and that the team it would face, gets an automatic bye into the championship series. And guess who Puerto Rico would face?

I’m not saying that either scenario will happen. I just feel that the ball has been kicked onto the fairway before for Rochester and it could happen again.

Of course, if Puerto Rico does compete in the playoffs, all the above is moot

[TheStandard]

Puerto Rico-Arecibo is going to get no help in arranging dates over. Since the Ponce Lions were screwed monetarily at this point from moving a game from April 20th to March 16th. Automatically 50% of the tickets go to each team but Arecibo offered 20% extra and that money still has not appeared. Oh and lets not start with the 2000 dollar hotel bill they owe Quebec. A millionaire team with a bourgeois attitude. That their crap doesn't stink. They better pay the bill because if the BSN finds out they will strike at them like they've never struck on a team before. That can lead to forfeits or a BSN first and expulsion. Deadline is now. Pay your bills and stop worrying of the BSN season because if you don't handle the PBL right the BSN will do right. EVEN MILLIONAIRE OWNERS ACT LIKE JOE NEWMAN!!!!!

[Juniper]

Not paying bills really hurts minor league basketball. PR should take care of these outstanding bills, just as the PBL should pay there outstanding bills. I feel this is the way life works. If your leadership does not follow the practice of paying bills, why should the teams? This behavior has killed certain markets. Someone also hit the nail right on the head. PR will take part in the play offs, however if they can't make it, they lose. In my opinion this will be the last year of the PBL, Doc and Rochester can't go out on a bad note. They will not have to play a first round play off game. But here we go again. It is play off time, and nobody really knows what is going on. If PR was not going to play in the play offs, every team should have be notified at the start of the season. If teams can't take part in the leagues play off system due to other obligations or can't afford to go to the play offs like in other leagues, they should not be in the league. What do you all think?

Has D. Bowden improved that much? He is Lawton's best player and they are in first place. He was Elgins best player in the IBL, and in Elgins last year they came if 4th. Pehaps the talent in the IBL is as good as what people say. I would love the see the PBL Champ take on the IBL Champ. I think the LA team that won the IBL would beat any PBL team. It is still to bad that last years Championship did not go off as planned. In a sense, that is what we would have had. With Battle Creek coming from the IBL, it would have been the IBL VS the PBL. Now that I think about it this way, I see why they wanted that game in Rochester. If they played in Battle Creek, an IBL team would have won the Championship. With that being said an IBL team has the best regular season record in the PBL for wins. No way could the PBL allow this to happen? I see this as another reason the PBL kicked BC out. Stay tuned, lets see what happens next on this soap. One last note. Elkart and Gary in opinion with there IBL teams, were much better then PBL teams. They would have beat Rochester by double digets. Good Luck Lawton, things are not looking good for your team and the play offs. Do you have your production crew ready to telivise the games down your way. If not, you better or that will be another reason the Championship will not be played at your place.

[CAVSFAN]

Has D. Bowden improved that much? He is Lawton's best player and they are in first place. He was Elgins best player in the IBL, and in Elgins last year they came if 4th.


Good Luck Lawton, things are not looking good for your team and the play offs. Do you have your production crew ready to telivise the games down your way. If not, you better or that will be another reason the Championship will not be played at your place.


I dont know how much DeAnthony has improved since coming from his former team but will say that for the 3 years he has been here in Lawton. He, Shawn Daniels, Brandon Dean and Elvin Mims have been the leaders of this team. DeAnthony with his scoring, Brandon with his leadership and ball handling and of course Shawn Daniels with being the big body in the middle. I am sure that you have looked at the stats and will see that DeAnthony leads the team in scoring at a little over 17 a game but most of the team scores in double figures with the exception of a couple.


Thank you for putting Lawton in the finals but I am sure that there are 3 or 4 other teams that have something to say about that - PR (if they play), Halifax, Rochester and Vermont. I am sure that if the CAVS play in the finals then the ownership will do what they need to do .

[Buffalo Super Fan]

Juniper I am with you but were talking about the PBL here. My Buffalo Stampede has a team maybe we fill in? I know I being funny to lighten the mood but see that is the logic of the PBL in my opinion. As silly as that sounds I would think it is a possiblity were close to Rochester Razorsharks to fill in.

In all seriousness to me if the PBL comes back next year they need to find some stronger owners for some of there PBL franchises to go forward with another season that meets there PBL obligations in my opinion. How can a team compete and then not particate in the PBL Playoffs that is silly? I would recommand that Rochester pays the D-League fee if the Rochester owner wants to continue playing next year but that is only my opinion.

Enough with alot of this silly stuff that has gone on in the PBL in my opinion. I want to also say as the season is fast coming to a close that I enjoyed talking about PBL and minor league basketball with all of you on the PBL boards and I wish all of you well in the PBL playoffs and beyond for the PBL and a good summer.

Just in case there is no PBL or Buffalo Stampede I saying this now and for Buffalo Stampede fans and PBL fans I hope the they have another year. I enjoyed all of you with your opinions and information on here. I will be around other oursportscentral forums with other leagues. Good luck all PBL playoff teams. Let's Go Buffalo

[Ken, Steelheads fan]

Not paying bills really hurts minor league basketball. PR should take care of these outstanding bills, just as the PBL should pay there outstanding bills. I feel this is the way life works. If your leadership does not follow the practice of paying bills, why should the teams?
Just add Puerto Rico-Arecibo to the growing list of PBL deadbeats and call it a day. There's little incentive to pay under these circumstances. The hotel in Quebec may require cash in advance from minor league (non-hockey) teams in the future though.
If PR was not going to play in the play offs, every team should have be notified at the start of the season. If teams can't take part in the leagues play off system due to other obligations or can't afford to go to the play offs like in other leagues, they should not be in the league. What do you all think?

This is what I think. I think I never fully understood Puerto Rico-Arecibo's entry into the PBL in the first place. History has proven teams playing in two leagues during the same year lose more money than if they stayed with their one original league. Teams don't pay their bills for a reason.

Did league leadership take into consideration Puerto Rico-Arecibo might not be available for the PBL playoffs (before the season)? Probably not. To not allow that consideration would be consistent with league management style.