MISL expansion??

[minorleagueguy]

Any one have any news on the league sxpanding any time soon? I miss the old Buffalo Stallions :(

minorleagueguy

[mrcool92501]

only one (that i know of)for 2005-06 season

calif cougars based out of stockton,calif.

[nksports]

Expand? This league needs to ride off into the sunset. It's purpose has been served. The novelty wore out more than five years ago.

[minorleagueguy]

Expand? This league needs to ride off into the sunset. It's purpose has been served. The novelty wore out more than five years ago.

I don't know, I think indoor soccer can be done, but it needs to be done RIGHT. These guys are not the best paid players around, so payrolls are low, they need proper size buildings to play in.


minorleagueguy

[SuperSonicStuart]

They have one lined up for New Jersey for 2007-2008 and one for Detroit for 2006-2007. Personally I think the league can become successful, but it's going to take improvement first. Like the MISL teams need owners that are owners of other arena sports teams like NHL, NBA, AFL and or NLL or something like that. Plus the teams need those kind of owners so that way the teams can attract more fans if they move into a downtown arena in their city. Like St. Louis for an example, before the 2004-2005 season began, they got a new owner that was able to get the team to play in the Savvis Center.

[nksports]

The KC Comets are moving in the other direction. They have committed to the new Overland Park arena for the 2006-07 season instead of the new KCMO downtown arena. The Knights are making the same move (assuming they and the ABA will be around by then).

[SuperSonicStuart]

I can't believe why the Kansas City Comets wouldn't want to play in the downtown Sprint Center arena because they would attract more fans if they did. It happened with the St. Louis Steamers when they moved into the Savvis Center in Downtown St. Louis! I think maybe the ABA probably won't survive but I think the MISL has a better chance of survival than the ABA.

[SuperSonicStuart]

They recently approved and confirmed the expansion team for Detroit. They will enter the league in the 2006-2007 season according to the MISL website in an article and I wonder how the San Diego Sockers and Dallas Sidekicks are doing on trying to find a new owner?

[nksports]

I can't believe why the Kansas City Comets wouldn't want to play in the downtown Sprint Center arena because they would attract more fans if they did. It happened with the St. Louis Steamers when they moved into the Savvis Center in Downtown St. Louis! I think maybe the ABA probably won't survive but I think the MISL has a better chance of survival than the ABA.

It's probably a cheaper venue than the Spirit Center will be. It will also be a better-sized venue. Interest in the Comets have dropped in the years since the Wizards came to town. It's also closer to where their core fans are. (Indoor soccer has always been pack the minivan wth the kids and drive in from the suburbs. In this case they will be in the same burbs as most of their fanbase.)

[Pounder]

Wait a minute...

I know there was an arena proposal in Olathe... and as I understand it, the city council there decided to back out, and that's pretty much dead. Meanwhile, Olathe might be going after a stadium for the Wizards.

Meanwhile, there's supposed to be another arena proposal somewhere nearby. I haven't heard anything since the Outlaws fiasco, and with the Sprint Center going up, I'm not sure backers still see the suburban arena as viable. Can I get a witness on this?

I suspect the Sprint Center will go EITHER NBA+AHL or NHL. I suspect NHL kills any idea of the suburban arena, unless Comets ownership has enough influence out there to actually get something done (this would be HIGHLY preferable for the Comets, for I believe trying to exist in the Sprint Center will bleed them of needed funds). BTW, anyone asking "why not NBA AND NHL" risks a pretty long lecture.

[SuperSonicStuart]

Yeah but the St. Louis Steamers when they played in the suburbs they did fair in attendance but then they got a new owner to have them play in the Savvis Center. But I guess the Overland Park arena will be a start, I think if the league keeps having their teams play in small arenas it will help get fans in then who knows? The league might get popular enough to play in downtown arenas where NHL and NBA teams play. But I hope some day the league is popular but this whole thing takes time.

(from "Family Guy") We all miss the news Meg, but Huey Lewis needs time to create that's why we have to learn to be patient.

[nksports]

Wait a minute...

I know there was an arena proposal in Olathe... and as I understand it, the city council there decided to back out, and that's pretty much dead. Meanwhile, Olathe might be going after a stadium for the Wizards.

Meanwhile, there's supposed to be another arena proposal somewhere nearby. I haven't heard anything since the Outlaws fiasco, and with the Sprint Center going up, I'm not sure backers still see the suburban arena as viable. Can I get a witness on this?

I suspect the Sprint Center will go EITHER NBA+AHL or NHL. I suspect NHL kills any idea of the suburban arena, unless Comets ownership has enough influence out there to actually get something done (this would be HIGHLY preferable for the Comets, for I believe trying to exist in the Sprint Center will bleed them of needed funds). BTW, anyone asking "why not NBA AND NHL" risks a pretty long lecture.

Olathe killed its proposal just days after Overland Park passed theirs (there's a bunch of stuff in the KC Star archives about it, look it up quick before they start charging for it.) Olathe is still going to build a shopping center on its site.
The OP arena is only going to seat about 7,000. One of the driving forces behind it was the NAIA asked for a committment for one when they returned to the area (presumably to move their tournament to the building).
Olathe and OP were both in a race to get one going, but the prevailing thought was the area could only support one, so when OP beat Olathe to the punch, that did theirs in.
The new crib will also be looking for KSHSAA events (most of the Class 6A and 5A schools are now in the KC burbs but most of the state events are in the middle of the state.
A new Wizards stadium was part of a vote last year, which would have brought more money to Arrowhead and Kauffman, but that was voted down. Lamar Hunt, the Wizards owner, has threatened to move the team unless a new stadium is built. He wants something around the size of Crew Stadium in Columbus or the Home Depot Center outside of LA. I haven't heard much about it in recent weeks. That might be a good direction for Olathe.
That might also start a new fight for state soccer venues in KS. There has been a rash of new and remodled stadiums in the state (Topeka, McPherson, Andover, Goddard, Salina, two in Newton, Hutchinson, Coffeyville —*all in the 3,000-7,000 range) with artificial turf and they are all itching for state events.

[TinytimTony8]

I think the MISL should put a team in New Orleans or somewhere around there. What do yall think?

[SuperSonicStuart]

New Orleans would be another good place for possible MISL expansion. As a matter of fact I'm suggesting that city on my letter I'm writing to MISL Commissioner Steve Ryan regaurding the league's expansion and plus I'm suggesting possible cities for expansion teams plus possible owners for those teams.

[york]

I wonder how the San Diego Sockers and Dallas Sidekicks are doing on trying to find a new owner?

Probably as well as they're doing finding new owners for Harrisburg, Cleveland, Buffalo, Wichita, Toronto, and that team that never materialized in the Carolinas.

[poplin]

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[SuperSonicStuart]

Excuse me poplin but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

[Pounder]

MISL is down to 6 teams. Many people who thrived in the league last year abandoned it. The shockwaves resulting from the Cleveland issue basically tells me that the league is on its last legs.

What surprises me is no fewer than three smaller leagues starting up. Where's the demand for this, again?

[SuperSonicStuart]

The total attendance for the 2004-2005 MISL season dropped. Here is the attendance totals for the last 4 MISL seasons:

Season-----------Total----------- Average
2001-2002 ---- 668,577---------- 5,065
2002-2003 ---- 780,490---------- 5,420
2003-2004 ---- 905,141---------- 5,587
2004-2005 ---- 628,948---------- 4,338