How to end 2 football games within 24-48 hours of each other

[ChampionOfSteel]

The players should anonymously contact the department of labor about the NIFL's practice of scheduling back-to-back games.

This would force the NIFL management to check each team's funding prior to the start of the season since scheduling back-to-back games would be under the eyes of the department of labor and would be forbidden. You don't cut cost in this area.

This is a tragedy just waiting to happen -- I can think of exercise induced heart attacks, increased injuries due to lack of rest, etc. to name just a few.

There's a reason why football games are played once a week rather than everyday like baseball or 2-3 days like hockey and basketball. It simply isn't safe. Add travel stress and you got a gas pit just waiting for someone to drop a match in it.

[tony-o]

I agree. Back-to-back games is just insane.

[Jamie]

I agree that back-to-back games are not a good idea.

However, I would love for someone to find where any employment rules would prohibit such a schedule.

You crack me up, CoS.

[ChampionOfSteel]

I agree that back-to-back games are not a good idea.

However, I would love for someone to find where any employment rules would prohibit such a schedule.

You crack me up, CoS.

I doubt there is a law on the books for this.

As new businesses evolve (like indoor football) new rules evolve...but only if the affected party (the players) report their issue.

What is so funny Jamie about being taken advantage of whether or not a law exists?

[Jamie]

What is so funny Jamie about being taken advantage of whether or not a law exists?

The players should anonymously contact the department of labor about the NIFL's practice of scheduling back-to-back games.

What is so funny is your naiveté. That you think the DoL would care about this.

Remember, your wannabe buddy does not believe in all that government interference... Smacks of Socialism to me.

[ChampionOfSteel]

What is so funny is your naiveté. That you think the DoL would care about this.

Remember, your wannabe buddy does not believe in all that government interference... Smacks of Socialism to me.

The Department of Labor becomes concerned AFTER someone reports an issue and presents their side of the story. Since this is a low priority action item it would be up to someone playing in the NIFL to take the initiative to report this new evolving issue. If the players don't report the issue the Department of Labor won't respond, because they aren't aware of this new evolving problem.

Are you also a minority owner for the Dayton Warbirds with perhaps an investment in the 'birds? You also seem to have a secular perspective of what is morally and ethically right and wrong in your responses.

[Jamie]

Are you also a minority owner for the Dayton Warbirds with perhaps an investment in the 'birds? You also seem to have a secular perspective of what is morally and ethically right and wrong in your responses.

No, I do not own a piece of the Warbirds... LOL if I did I'd be a poor man today...

Did you not read where I agreed that back to back games are a bad thing? I hope that it never happens again. But the players do not have to do it. They can see the schedule and they choose to stay on the team.

The reason you make me laugh is that you spend a lot of time on this and other message boards with your self-righteous harranges about how team owners should run their business... with little or no knowledge of the realities of minor league sports, and admit that you have only ever seen one game.

And you still did not respond to my earlier barb: Why do you want to get the government involved in regulating business? Your hero Bill O'Wannabe would not approve. The invisible hand of the market will take care of things, will it not?

[plbell627]

This was not the first time Dayton Warbirds had to play games to closely together. The played on Sat. in Montgomery, Al. came back and played Ciccinnati Marshalls on Mon. Themain problem with this league is anybody can get a team, but what you do then is up to you.

The Dayton franchise is owned by Tony Pewonski and managed through Centurin Sports Management, Mr. Pewonski also owns Kissimmee, Daytona Beach and Lakeland. This is his first year and is still having problems paying players, coachs and other staff. The Comissioner Carolyn Shiver doesn't care about what happens after that. Look at the Cincinnati Marshalls the were owned by A Mr Patterson and US Bank had to sue him over bounced checks rent, etc. Also he is under inditment in Florida for a 1.6 million dollar scam, where he took money to imprt cars but has never imported any.

This should be awa up call to check the future owners out better before they get a franchise.

[Jamie]

Yep, you're right, none of those things should happen in a perfect world.

There, does that make me sound less secular?

Or just a heathen relativist... :lol:

[ChampionOfSteel]

Did you not read where I agreed that back to back games are a bad thing? I hope that it never happens again. But the players do not have to do it. They can see the schedule and they choose to stay on the team. Disagree. The market allows for businesses to compete against each other to produce a final product that is effectively and efficiently produce but those same market forces do not extend to getting ideal practices to keep the workers protected. When coal mines competed for business, personal safety was sacrificed. If government doesn't intervene unsafe business practices can extend and dominate in any industry. If left unchecked, no job would be safe for the worker. Clearly having a job market that dictates you must put up with unreasonable job risk would extend to all jobs and therefore remove any type of ideal choice if permitted to go unchecked in any industry. The reason you make me laugh is that you spend a lot of time on this and other message boards with your self-righteous harranges about how team owners should run their business... with little or no knowledge of the realities of minor league sports, and admit that you have only ever seen one game. And how is that relevant? I'm passionate about sports management and I care about the NIFL. I don't have to know how a clock operates in order to tell time. I use my sources for sports management from books, my personal experiences in running a sports league, and my personal research because sports management is a hobby of mine. The number of NIFL games I attended this year is irrelevant. If watching a NIFL is relevant please explain how it is relevant because I'm not following you. And you still did not respond to my earlier barb: Why do you want to get the government involved in regulating business? Your hero Bill O'Wannabe would not approve. The invisible hand of the market will take care of things, will it not? The invisible hand does not take care of all things. If Bill O'Reilly made that claim in the context that you present, I don't agree with him on that point. I agree with Bill on virtually everything. Perhaps this is one of those rare times I disagree with him.

[ChampionOfSteel]

Yep, you're right, none of those things should happen in a perfect world.

Life is full of choices. The ideal of perfection is an individual choice based on an individual desire to make a commitment to excellence. Ask Walt Disney on the decisions he refused to make out of expediency when he built his theme parks.

I live in the same neighborhood as some former friends and I came out pretty darn good. Some of my other "friends" chose a different route and have all kinds of personal and professional problems that will last them a lifetime. My world is more perfect than those guys. That involved commitment, hard work, and the courage to do the right thing even when it counted against me (integrity).

In the same way, this applies to starting a sports league or a team only when there's sufficient funding to make it thru the entire season.

There, does that make me sound less secular? Or just a heathen relativist... :lol:

No, it tells me you've already given in to the idea of doing what is expedient rather than doing what's right.

It also tells me there's a high probability that you lack the ability to postpone gratification -- starting a sports league only until there's sufficient funding. This probably applies to you personally as well. Just an educated guess, but nevertheless educated.