Mudbugs going for Player of the Week

[Mudbugs_LI]

The Acadiana Mudbugs have fought their way to becoming 3-0, but now it is
time for the fans to help out the Mudbug players get their due recognition.

The Southern Indoor Football League lets its fans vote for its Player of the Week Award. Two weeks ago, the Austin Turfcats pulled out every trick in the book to get defensive line Kevin Earvine the nod over Louisiana's Freddie Harrison, a quarterback who threw six touchdown passes.

This week, two Mudbugs Kimmee Lewis and Johnny Williams are pitted against Austin's JR Turner and Darrick Wallace for the award. Each SIFL game names four MVPs with two of those selected to being the running for the league-wide nomination.

``Austin's GM [Ron Oswalt] did everything short of stuffing the ballot box, and, frankly, I dont't like losing to him," said Mudbugs Communication Coordinator Lexie Iskander. ``Really, this about our players being recognized for their accomplishment and all of Acadiana can come together on this.

``This is our first chance and best chance to show who has the best fans," Iskander said. ``Just log onto southernifl.com and vote. Winning games isn't everything, sometimes."

[Caballo Diablo]

``Austin's GM [Ron Oswalt] did everything short of stuffing the ballot box, and, frankly, I dont't like losing to him," said Mudbugs Communication Coordinator Lexie Iskander. ``Really, this about our players being recognized for their accomplishment and all of Acadiana can come together on this.

``This is our first chance and best chance to show who has the best fans," Iskander said. ``Just log onto southernifl.com and vote. Winning games isn't everything, sometimes."
Oh cry me a river Lexie, this is very unprofessional of you to cry in public and make accusations towards others. looks like you're on the road to stuff the ballot box this time. Enjoy while you can, cry babies don't stay happy long- lol

Yeah, freddie threw 6 TD's against a team that couldn't beat a High School JV team.
You've got to look at more than stats girlfriend.

[Caballo Diablo]

You forgot the link Lexie

http://www.southernifl.com/

So everyone go vote for the player you feel deserves it, not just because she or I say who had the best performance.

[Caballo Diablo]

WOW !

Her post is on the front Homepage of the SIFL site.

Begging for votes by a front office, and throwing out accusations against another front office - ON THE FREAKING FRONT PAGE OF THE LEAGUE SITE !!

WTF ?

Talk about unethical, unprofessional, you had better win this one.
And you accuse others of cheating, stuffing the ballot box - hahaha
The true colors of Acadiana is there in bold, the hand writing is on the wall now.

[mavlax20]

Ok, I like to look at stats...so let's see....

We have Johnnie Williams of the Mudbugs, his stats are reported as 5 catches, 55 yds.

We have JR Turner of the Turfcats, weird...there are no stats listed on the SIFL site for him during the game.

We have Kemmie Lewis of the Mudbugs, his stats are reported as 1 interception.

We have Darrick Wallace of the Turfcats, his stats are reported as 3 kickoff returns, 73 yds, with a long of 42 yards, I believe that was a TD, 5 receptions for 54 yards, with 1 TD, long of 24 yards. Total yards are 127, with 2 TDs.

So judging by stats, it comes down to 2 players out of the 4 that could claim player of the week in my opinion, but don't take my word for it, let the stats from this past week do the talking.

[daytonadan]

Oh, how I loves me some fussin' and a fightin' ...

[Caballo Diablo]

Dan, this isn't how you build a rivalry.

This makes the league look unprofessional and petty.
If you want to stir the pot how about doing it without whinning and accusations like kids on the playground?

It's not cute, it's immature and in poor taste.

You could of at least picked a better match-up.

The Mudbug had 1 pick against an 0-3 team they struggled to beat.
The T-cat player has some impressive stats against a team on a 20 game win streak that EVERYONE thought would cake-walk through the league to their
3rd consecutive Championship.

You dropped the ball on this one and made the SIFL look bad.

You'll have to admit I've been one of the leagues biggest fans, I'm disappointed and ashamed of this type of poparazzi stuff.

I've lost some respect for both Acadiana and you.
Do you feel this goes to Honoring the league motto, ........"in all that we do"......

Or is that just a ruse also?

[daytonadan]

Dropped ball? A bobble at best. A burp in the cosmic scheme. Dan Quayle's vice presidency ... More important things to stress over .

[Caballo Diablo]

More important things to stress over .
Yeah, you're right. With all of the sellouts the past few weeks there's no need to worry about public perception.

I guess if not many read the site it doesn't matter if they pull a childish stunt because they couldn't find a real article to write. Yeah, the vote count will go up a little once the two "communication" workers push their friends.

maybe the extra log in's will get some more hits for the advertisers but the actual fans won't pick up.

I thought Mr hager had told me the league was being built around a higher standard and we "seek to honor..............."

You thinking it's cute only degrades the future hopes for good PR.

[fred1965]

You're getting on Lexie's and Dan's case ... but right under that release is a release from Austin about the GM shaving his head. Your guy seems to do as much self-promoting as he does for the team. What's the differerance?

Caballo, you need to chill out. Dan Ryan is one the best PR people in the business and he know what he's doing. He handled the worst day in the sport's history when the Daytona Beach player died and has done a lot for the sport. If you're going to call him out, do it over something that really matters.

[mavlax20]

Did Ron Oswalt or anyone with the Turfcats organization come out and accuse a member of another organization of flat out cheating (although it is just a poll, not a game)...yeah, I didn't think so. The mudbugs staff member came out and went straight towards accusing Oswalt of cheating and pulling all the tricks in the book just to win a player of the week poll.

I can tell you one thing, I assume that the GM of a football team has much better things to do with his time than worry about a player of the week poll, although it is nice whenever a player from your team does win.

[Caballo Diablo]

You're getting on Lexie's and Dan's case ... but right under that release is a release from Austin about the GM shaving his head. Your guy seems to do as much self-promoting as he does for the team. What's the differerance?

Caballo, you need to chill out. Dan Ryan is one the best PR people in the business and he know what he's doing. He handled the worst day in the sport's history when the Daytona Beach player died and has done a lot for the sport. If you're going to call him out, do it over something that really matters.
Well, I probably was too hard on Lexie. When I met her in austin she seemed very nice. It seems her statements were taken out of context by your Guru and he's the one that concocted this cheap PR stunt.

If you don't understand the difference i'm not sure i can help, but you know me, I'll try. PR stunt- make a bet, if you lose you shave YOUR, it affects no one but yourself.

You and Dan have both said it doesn't matter, yet it mattered to write about?
She was upset the person she wanted to win lost. She cried about and Dan took it public. She accused another front office of somrthing she felt was wrong, probably in a private conversation. Dan is the one that made it an issue and thought it was cute, Dan was the one that used it as a cheap PR story.

Although it's sad when a player dies, I doubt it was the worst day in sports history. It's not the first time an Indoor Football player has died - on the field, #76 Al Lucas comes to mind. If you just go by public opinion Dale Earnhart dying on TV was a much worse day in sports history. I'm not belittling the event you speak of, I just think you're using it wrongfully in an attempt to prove your point.

Everyone makes mistakes. I don't understand people always saying "Chill out", or "it's meaningless." First off, I'm not hot. This is a message board where people discuss things and give their opinions. I disagree with his opinion and feel it sheds a childish light on the league and teams.

I wouldn't say this came from the mind of "one of the Best in PR."
Too many that follow this sport are clueless to the big picture. there are not enough die hard fans to support the 50 yard game. If you want to sell more tickets or charge more for sponsorship/advertising you need more butts in seats to see it. This means you need to attract the casual fans looking for a good value on their entertainment dollar. Being a slow economy also hurts as discretionary income is down.

So yes, it is about the perception of the masses and the casual fans.
Building childish rivalries and pulling childish stunts as he sits back and chuckles isn't getting the job done. You get to choose how you feel and I get to choose how i feel. I'm not trying to send him to prison over it.
I'm a believer that you stand up for what you believe, big or small, and I believe he was wrong. You don't, great. Maybe you'd like to use my ticket this week because I' won't be attending. This kind of PR turns me off and there are more important things besides a nights worth of entertainment.
So much for bringing in new fans, an old one will be sitting this one out.

[phydeaux72]

You people need to cut CB some slack here. Since the Sioux Falls situation has died off and just about everyone has moved on from that, he and Exit322 are in need of some new material to whine and b!tch about.

In two weeks it'll be something different.

[MUDBUG1]

lets get back to football .

[MUDBUG1]

The poster who has said lets get back to football has been sacked
The football gods apoligize.

[MUDBUG1]

it has been brought to our attention that the poster responding about the sacking of the original post has been sacked.

In two weeks it'll be something completely different.

please carry on


the three llamas
Knights of Ne

[Caballo Diablo]

You people need to cut CB some slack here. Since the Sioux Falls situation has died off and just about everyone has moved on from that, he and Exit322 are in need of some new material to whine and b!tch about.

In two weeks it'll be something different.
You're wrong, you were upset because I spoke out against your league. You thought I was biased, but in truth It doesn't matter the league or subject. Maybe I'm just too honest for you. I feel a league shouldn't smack their teams and front offices. if it's dirty laundry it should be kept in house. This was worse, it was just a PR stunt by a lazy PR guy.

You don't like Exit and I just happened to agree with him on this subject. Plus you can't stand anyone that was associated with or enjoys Arenaball. I keep forgetting this isn't a fan forum.
It's a forum for insecure front office people and owners that enjoy dissing the fans, you know, the customers.
notice my threads get the most views, I seem to keep the pop-ups and advertising hits going. preeths must be calling me CHA-CHING!

Silly me, I feel they deserve each others respect, not WWE PR.
Here's what I posted on the Swashbucklers forum before this thread was ever started, I guess you guys feel respect is over rated.

Do something worthy and I just might even praise you to.
..............................

Swashbucklers have Class

I know this weekends loss to the Austin Turfcats was a difficult one. The `Bucs are accustomed to winning and being the franchise to for others to aspire to.

I'm fortunate to be able to go behind the scenes and meet everyone, I get to be a fly on the wall as things go on that the people in the stands are unaware of.

From the players, the coaches, and the front office staff that traveled to Austin I say thank you. All of you were very professional and respectful of our house and family.
There's a reason your franchise is the cream of the crop, and it goes much deeper than the wins on the field.

I was dogging John Paul Jones all night and teasing him about the nickname Fluffy - lol - my megaphone helped me stay in his ear. I've know for a long time that's he's a dominating player, but I just learened what type of a team leader is he. I followed him out the door to the locker room after the game and got to see his leadership skills in action. He was very dissappointed to say the least and let his team mates know what was up. He wants the mistakes fixed and will definitely push his team mates to improve.

I had several conversations with Brandon Thomas as well, ask him if the dent in his forehead still hurts from that little guy (Darrick Wallace) drilling him coming out of the high motion - lol. The players had fun with the crowd and did it with class.

No doubt this type of behavior comes from the tutoring of Coach Lee and GM Richard Dow, I spoke with both of them also after the game. It can be difficult offering congratulations after a hard fought game but these guys had nothing but praise for us.

I let them know that here in Austin we've got nothing but respect for the entire Swashbucklers franchise and they are who we look up to in our inaugural season, both on and off the field. I met Mr Hager at our opening game, and was hoping to see him this week also. All props go back to him.

Mr Hager, thank you for the reputation you've helped build for the sport itself and for having the forsight to start the SIFL.

This was a great day in our young history, and none of it would have been possible without the years of hard work by Mr hager and his franchise. Props to all of you!

........................

[sportznut]

You are still the best!!

We would have been sitting right with you a few years back for sure!

[fred1965]

I read that quote and it says ``everything short'' of stuff the ballot box. So she didn't really accuse Ron of cheating.

But here's my final two cents:

1) The SIFL is trying differate ways to generate some web traffic. Looks like it worked with other 400 votes. Everyone has different opinions

2) I go on the SIFL web site and there's a new article every day. Same with Austin. That's more than what I can say for practically all the other leagues.

3) This whole thing is a minor incident at best. If it happens again, then the whole issue needs to be addressed ... even allowing a fan vote to determine the Player Of The Week.

I think Dan, Lexie, Ron Oswalt and Caballo Diablo should commended for their support and contributions to the sport. Can we agree on that?

[mwhite212]

Well, honestly, can't you see the frustration of the Mudbugs? Here they are sitting on top of the league and they are still playing second fiddle to the 'Bucs and the Cats. They beat the Cats already, and I believe next week will be a VERY competitive contest. The head coach, John Fourcade, has quite a resume and he has some pretty good talent on his team. I think perhaps they feel they are being dismissed because the Cats and the 'Bucs have more resources chasing after them. Hell, the Mudbugs even drew a bigger crowd than the Cats...but Lafayette is a smaller town than Austin with a bit less to do I suppose. :)

And one bad thing about print....we have no idea the tone or inflection the statement "short of stuffing the ballot box" was made with. Was he smirking when he said it? Was it said toungue-in-cheek? I take it as he was trying to galvanize the Mudbugs fans into action by creating a bit of rivalry. It's just showman antics. And don't delude yourself into thinkng this league will have any more or less drama than any other...including the NFL. For God's sake, one of the NFL players just killed another human being whil under the influence a few months bak. . . that's hardly an ideal to live up to, no?

And as far as being petty....sports is in itself petty. It's a game and pastime that folks sometimes take entirely too seriously.

[Caballo Diablo]

Dan,
I apologize for calling you out and dragging your name through the dirt.
Dueling thoughts and sometimes even contoversy can be a good thing.

It was unprofessional of me, I'm sorry.

Steve

[daytonadan]

No need to apologize.

Let me know what I need to bring to the tailgate.

[CoachSMB05]

See, we can come together in harmony.

[Mudbugs_LI]

This was merely a tongue and cheek statement, not a bash against Oswalt. It was not meant to be taken seriously. It was just to stir up a little talk, and it succeeded.

[daytonadan]

See, we can come together in harmony.

I don't care how hot Harmony is ............................

I'm happily married.

[exit322]

Wow. Wow. Wow.

[mwhite212]

Well, the polls have closed and what was a dead heat suddenly became a landslide...there are just too many ways to cheat this method of determination. Not that I'm suggesting there was cheating from the management, but perhaps from fans...like voting multiple times from multiple browser sessions. They really need a more objective way of determining this. And hey, the Turfcats player may deserve it, but I think this voting is at the very least suspect. Over 1600 fans showed up to the Mudbugs game and 12oo to the Turfcats...I don't know, on the surface something doesn't jive.

[Caballo Diablo]

While I agree, I don't like the voting system in place I sense some sour grapes. The attendance doesn't matter at all, most of those butts in seats are casual fans just enjoying a night of entertainment. They don't go to the foorball websites or forums, they have no idea there's even a player of the week vote or who the contestants are.

I frequent many sites and forums, and you're correct about the cheating. I had been PMed by a supposed Acadiana fan on one of the sites trying to get in my face. He/she said there were a group of fans that planned on hitting the school's library where there's a bank of computers, they were going to as many places as possible that offered their customers computer access to "Stuff the Ballot Box", I wonder where they got THAT idea from? Being only allowed to vote once from each computer is a good thing, but it only keeps the honest guy honest. It's really not that difficult to get around it, kind of like a lock on a window.

It's no different than All-Star voting for the Big 4, a small group of fans screwing up reality. So you need to point a finger in both directions. Check the vote totals from the previous weeks and you'll see both sides had a suspicious rise in votes. You've read the "PR" on the subject, tell me, do you think the Acadiana front office and fans called their friends and family and requested some votes? I kept a close eye on the tally and at one point Kemmie, the Mudbug player received over 100 votes in a 10 minute span, tell me you believe those were "Honest" votes.

This situation was describes on many forums, most of them have educated DieHard fans of the 50 yard game. Many of them love stats, and also read articles and follow what really happened. I voted ONCE, how about you?

Let's look at this like an unbiased fan of the 50 yard;
The Mudbugs beat a team that's winless and has turned in some pretty awful performaces. Their selected players stats were 8 tackles and 1 interception.
Pretty good, if they had played a good team. When a DB is your leading tackler I'm not really sure that's a good thing. Were the DL and LB's getting dominated? Was Kemmie doing a poor job in coverage and giving up too many receptions making the tackle stat rise because of his own errors? Was he tackling someone else's receiver? Decent stats, but when considering all of the facts they don't stand out so much.

The Turfcats played the Goliath of the league, the Swashbucklers. EVERYONE thought this league was a joke and the `Bucs would cake walk through it like they have the Intense league the past few seasons. Louisiana is the only existing franchise in the league, and they returned 14 players from last season. Sammy Knight is a great player, and he's not even listed as their #1 receiver. John Paul Jones has dominated the Intense League as the most consitantly great DL to play in the league.

Most were saying they would be happy if the T-Cats could just prevent being blown out. The `Bucs were riding a 20 game win streak and Back to Back Championships. It was huge for Austin to step up and secure the victory.

Now let's look at the stats of their selected player.
We have Darrick Wallace of the Turfcats, his stats are reported as 3 kickoff returns, 73 yds, with a long of 42 yards, I believe that was a TD, 5 receptions for 54 yards, with 1 TD, long of 24 yards. Total yards are 127, with 2 TDs.

Those look good in any game, being against the `Bucs makes them great.
Darrick is a small guy and took on a much larger guy in #10 Brandon Thomas.
I saw them standing side by side, the listed height and weights for the two don't give reality justice. Stats don't show blocking, Wallace was dominating Thomas and putting dents on his forehead all night while opening up running lanes for the RB and other WR's. My personal opinion is that all around Wallace had a much better game against a much better opponent. But yes, I do have a little bias on the matter.

So you are correct, the number of votes was BS, but the right guy won anyways. The league got what they wanted in a much higher traffic count on their site. Although it was probably a linited number of people voting over and over, the hits still count to the advertisers.

The Mudbug's definitely stuffed the Ballot box this week, the vote count proves it. Maybe they shouldn't have woke the sleeping dog, err, T-Cat.

[Mudbugs_LI]

We did stuff the ballot box, each fan that voted stuffed it with one vote.
I don't understand how we can be accused of stuffing the ballot box when I checked the polls last night and we were behind by about 50. When I got up this morning, Austin was ahead by like 200. Hmmm???

Kemmie Lewis is an exceptional player. He definitely deserves player of the week. Regardless of votes on the website, he, in our hearts, is the player of the week. He has done well all three weeks, and has lead the team defensively.

The Austin player who won did have great stats from the Lake Charles game, but this is the first I've heard of him.

Yea, we didn't play our best this week against Houma, but that doesn't mean anything. All that counts is that we learned from our mistakes, and we will play better against Lake Charles. It will be a tough match, and I wish both teams good luck.

[Caballo Diablo]

We did stuff the ballot box, each fan that voted stuffed it with one vote.
I don't understand how we can be accused of stuffing the ballot box when I checked the polls last night and we were behind by about 50. When I got up this morning, Austin was ahead by like 200. Hmmm???
That's either naieve, or a bold face.............., umm, le't just leave it at naieve.

Like my previous post says, how do you account for over 100 votes in a 10 minute span for Kemmie? I've watched the poll continuosly throughout the entire thing because of the your comments. I updated the count on another site in approx 10 minute intervals until it closed. You're right, my wife says I don't have a life outside of the 50 yard game. How do you explain almost 1,000 votes, isn't that more than all previous polls combined?

Kemmie Lewis is an exceptional player. He definitely deserves player of the week. Regardless of votes on the website, he, in our hearts, is the player of the week. He has done well all three weeks, and has lead the team defensively.
Yes, Kemmie is a very good player, and the Mudbugs deserve big props for their 3-0 start. But this wasn't about who is good or not or who has the best record at the moment, it was about who had the best performance last game between the 4 players selected. I think it's pretty obvious who had the better game against a better opponent.

This has nothing to do with disrespecting Kemmiie or the Mudbugs, it has to do with last weeks performance, not who's a team MVP so far.


The Austin player who won did have great stats from the Lake Charles game, but this is the first I've heard of him.
Wow, I wouldn't admit that if I was working for a teams front office. Darrick Wallace is well known around the Intense league, he was (one of) the best return man for the past couple of years. But who you know is supposed to be unimportant, it was supposed to be judged on last weeks performance alone. You can read stats and check on what happened last week within your league can't you? Maybe you should check some facts and gather a little info on the leagues players and game performances before you start accusing others, tongue & cheek or not. Welcome to reality.

Yea, we didn't play our best this week against Houma, but that doesn't mean anything. All that counts is that we learned from our mistakes, and we will play better against Lake Charles. It will be a tough match, and I wish both teams good luck.
In the big picture all that matters as a team is you got the win last week, congrats, but it only gets tougher from here. IMHO I highly doubt you'll play better against the 'Bucs this week, we'll just have to look at the stas after the game to know for sure though. The Swashbucklers are not accostumed to losing, I was at their locker room after last weeks defeat, they were PI$$ED ! Believe me they'll be focused on one thing this week, proving last week was only a bump in the road. They will play with a vengence and I pitty who ever was in thier sights for this weeks game. You might want to shield your eyes because it could get ugly. IF Acadiana can beat the `Bucs this week it deserves a spot in history because the Swashbucklers are super pumped to prove a point.

Oh yeah, thanks for the congrat's you gave Wallace on the win.
Oh wait, you never did acknowledge his GREAT GAME against a much tougher opponent. we see how you are.

[mwhite212]

First off, Caballo,the only reason I'm responding to this is because I really didn't much like the way you were speaking to my fellow Mudbugs fan. I thinks some of the implied insults were unnecessary. I'll try not to be as long winded. I'm not going to have sour grapes for something that has absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever. I was simply stating that the vote count is extremely suspect....but of course your teams fans are certainly more honest than the Mudbugs fans. For God's sake, I'm not saying you did, but for all we know, Caballo, you're the one who cast all the votes for the Turfcats I'm just illustrating how flawed the system is.

And your comment that the number of fans in the seats doesn't matter doesn't hold much logical water. It's the only realy barometer we have to measure fan interest at the moment, so all things being equal, it should work out to about the same ratio of casual vs. hardcore fans, no? Or are Austin fans just THAT "HARD CORE" - all 1,200 of them. LOL. But for every two "butts in the seat" at the Austin game, one vote was cast. For every 4 butts in the seat at the Mudbugs, one vote was cast. You telling me that makes sense? Or some disgruntled Houma fans went and cast votes? LOL.

Oh, well.

[Caballo Diablo]

First off, Caballo,the only reason I'm responding to this is because I really didn't much like the way you were speaking to my fellow Mudbugs fan. I thinks some of the implied insults were unnecessary. I'll try not to be as long winded. I'm not going to have sour grapes for something that has absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever.

I'm responding because, well, that' what I do. and I am long winded. - lol

You don't like the way I spoke to your fellow Mudbug fans, haha, now that is funny. I would appreciate an explaination of your opinion here.

I didn't even realize I had been talking to a Mudbug fan besides you in the last post, and you did make a feeble attempt at smacking the `Bucs and T-Cats a few posts back. It was light hearted and all in fun, no harm no foul.

Bottom line you are correct, this voting for the player of the week is meaningless to our lives. Sure, people like to win at anything, but it really doesn't matter who won. The voting was more about the situation and the perceived whinning of your sports writer than it was about the players. And that is totally wrong.

Let's look at the posters that have already posted in the thread:
Mudbugs_LI - she's not a fan, but a front office employee of the Mudbugs holding the title of communications coordinator, according to the little article that got all of this started. But the Mudbugs website lists her as the Sports writer. She's one of the culprits that started the accusations and got the smackdown started. Employees of the league are held to a higher standard, especially on a public forum than regular fans are. If she can't can't take the heat then she shouldn't stoop to low PR tactics and take it to a forum for debate.

Caballo Diablo - I'm prety confident he's not a Mudbug fan - lol

Mavlax20 - He's not a Mudbug fan

daytonadan - He's not a Mudbug fan, he's an employee of the SIFL, the Director of communications.
I've already apologized to him for my rude behavior.

Fred1956 - I have no clue as to who he is. He did stick up for both Lexie and Dan, and somehow tried to misconstrue the two PR sunts as the same thing, which I disagreed with and explained. Later he even commented that I was one of the people that should be commended.

Phydeaux72 - He's not a Mudbug fan, he and his family owns 3 IFL teams.

CoachSMBO5 - I don't think he's a Mudbug fan, but not certain. His only comment was posting a "Funny", to which I did not reply.

Exit322 - he is not a Mudbugs fan and I wasn't rude to him either.

sportznut - He's not a Mudbug fan, another SIFL employee, the Director of League Operations.

Mudbug1 - Here we go, I finally found one of your fellow Mudbug fans.
But all be posted about was "Let's get back to some football", I didn't reply to him.

So all that leaves is you - mwhite212 - why couldn't you just say it was you that for some reason was offended? Please quote the parts you have inferred disrespect and I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you. If you've read the entire thread you will see I've got no problem Manning up for my indescretions.

Please reference the insults and give me the chance to address them one by one. I promise to explain.

I was simply stating that the vote count is extremely suspect....but of course your teams fans are certainly more honest than the Mudbugs fans. For God's sake, I'm not saying you did, but for all we know, Caballo, you're the one who cast all the votes for the Turfcats I'm just illustrating how flawed the system is.
Did they teach reading comprehension at your school?
Go back and re-read my post, I AGREED with you that the numbers were suspect ON BOTH SIDES.

And that my friend was a question, not an insult. You can not tell the attitude or frame of mind through my typed words, so I explained.

I have stated in a previous post that I had only voted once, I don't know how to prove it to you but it is the truth. I also asked Lexi in the same post how many times she had voted and the silence was deafening.

This has nothing to do with the honesty of Acadiana or Austin fans, it was a cheap PR stunt that your communications director, err, sports writer was a part of. She made accusations and threw down the gauntlet. if you don't believe both sides were fanagling for votes you're naieve.

I've also stated in posts on various forums and in PM's that I don't like the system and it's totally flawed. My complaints were not about the voting process until after tha fact, my complaints were about one front office person attacking another in a public forum. Calling it toungue & cheek is a copout. It was a premeditated PR stunt, and no she didn't do it alone. She might have just been a pawn.


And your comment that the number of fans in the seats doesn't matter doesn't hold much logical water. It's the only realy barometer we have to measure fan interest at the moment, so all things being equal, it should work out to about the same ratio of casual vs. hardcore fans, no? Or are Austin fans just THAT "HARD CORE" - all 1,200 of them. LOL. But for every two "butts in the seat" at the Austin game, one vote was cast. For every 4 butts in the seat at the Mudbugs, one vote was cast. You telling me that makes sense? Or some disgruntled Houma fans went and cast votes? LOL.
I disagree. The Butts in seats for these two games had nothing to do with the voting. Most don't go to the website, they didn't know about the poll even though Lexie tried to spread the word. Most fans at games could care less about these types of things. Most of the votes are both sides were drummed up, it wasn't fans voting, DieHard or casual. So trying to figure out an equation for Butts in seatrs to votes is just silly. Fan interest in the game or team is far different than fans interested in going to the site and voting.

This was all about the PR stunt, I'll bet more forum members across the 50 yard leagues voted than actual Mudbug or T-cat fans.

Why should any of the Mudbug fans gone home disgruntled? You won.
your entire paragraph didn't make sense to me.

Please do respond and spell out my insults, my wife says I can be slow at times - lol

[gonzo13]

Let's all just be honest with ourselves. This entire sport is an ongoing publicity stunt. A perpetual struggle to be crowned the tallest midget. No since in arguing it. If your team/league isn't doing all they can to separate themselves from the crowd,they are destined for the indoor football graveyard.

[Radio Jack]

Just an FYI and this is all I will say on the subject.

The polls are advanced enough that only one vote can come in per computer. No matter what. So a family of 5 with one computer in the house can only cast one vote (unless they go to the neighbor's house).

This is all due to IP addresses and a bunch of other computer mumbo jumbo I don't understand too well.

OK, I'm done.

[phydeaux72]

Phydeaux72 - He's not a Mudbug fan, he and his family owns 3 IFL teams.

Well, 3.51 if you count San Angelo.

[Caballo Diablo]

Well, 3.51 if you count San Angelo.

haha - sorry, I stand corrected.

See how easy that was mwhite212

[mwhite212]

So much for brevity. LOL. I thought I could rant...wow. Here were some not so nice things said to answer your query, Caballo. And if you're wondering why I didn't use the little quote function (before you make an insult about that too,) I'm not terribly fond of forums in general, because they generally lead to, well, THIS. I'm a bit unpracticed. And they didn't teach me FORUM 101 in school either apparently...we didn't have the internet then. LOL. Here it goes:

"Did they teach reading comprehension at your school?" Okay? Was THAT not an insult? You just did that one. You ask me how you insulted Mudbug_L1 and then insult ME in the same post. LOL. WOW! Or perhaps this:

"and you did make a feeble attempt at smacking the `Bucs and T-Cats a few posts back." Why the use of the word feeble? Other than to be intentionally combative or provocative.

"Wow, I wouldn't admit that if I was working for a teams front office." Which you said to Mudbug_L1...I suppose it was meant to draw into question his credibility, knowledge, or competence.

Okay, then how about this?
"Oh wait, you never did acknowledge his GREAT GAME against a much tougher opponent. we see how you are." Again to Mubug_L1. Suggesting something ill about his character or fairness.

I suppose those could just be "jibs" or "friendly ribbing," but we don't know each other well enough for that, so I take them as insults.

All in all, I've read some of your past posts....there's a lot of them if you haven't noticed...and sometimes your tone can seem to be quite shrill and mean spirited. Notice I said tone and not that YOU were shrill and mean spirited. I've not met you so I don't know - you could be a really good guy who just has fun arguing. Good news is my reading speed has increased 10 fold after trudging through these epic tomes of yours. In fact, I'm thinking of using your posts in a reading comprehension class for my daughter's school - as such great works of composition and content they are. LOL.

And I said disgruntled Houma (Conqueror) fans...not Mudbugs fans voting. In other words, voting against the Mudbugs because they were pissed they lost. My "feeble" attempt at a bit of humor I guess.

But that being said, this should be my LONGEST and last post on this forum. I joined hoping to get more info and discuss the league, but there just seems to be a lot of pissing contests here. Fair thee well, Caballo . . . I'm quite certain with your argumentative and time management skills you will be able to populate this entire forum with interesting discourse by yourself. LOL.

Peace guys. I've got a daughter to raise and a business to run. (Insert random, meaningless insult about my parenting or fiduciary responsibilities here.)

[Mudbugs_LI]

Sorry I was mistaken about who the Austin player of the week was. Of course I do know him. He played great against us the first week. I'm very sorry for making that comment and did not mean to insult any Austin players. It was a mistake on my part not to look at the stats and do my research before I made any accusations.

Good luck to Austin this week, along with every team in the league.

Peace

[Caballo Diablo]

I suppose those could just be "jibs" or "friendly ribbing," but we don't know each other well enough for that, so I take them as insults.

Now you're catching on.
Many times we all forget that whether the subject is a serious one or humorous one, that message boards/forums are just a form of entertainment. It's not a pi$$ing match.

I usually call it "poking people with a stick" - lol
Most give and take with a chuckle, but you're right, you're a newbie and unacustomed to being "poked." Believe me it's not personal.

I get the feeling you're not interested in a break down of your last post. There are two over riding factors though, I did promise to respond and there's over 561 people awaiting my response.

561 was the vote count for Darrick Wallace, get it.............

Ba-Dump-Tsss;)

[Caballo Diablo]

Sorry I was mistaken about who the Austin player of the week was. Of course I do know him. He played great against us the first week. I'm very sorry for making that comment and did not mean to insult any Austin players. It was a mistake on my part not to look at the stats and do my research before I made any accusations.

Good luck to Austin this week, along with every team in the league.

Peace
It's all good, us expansion teams need to stick together.

Good Luck to the Mudbugs this week.