Can the Raiders handle the Rage???

[Apex]

Currently the River City Rage are 3 - 0. They have WHOOPED the Sting twice and the Sting have beaten the Raiders.
Will the Raiders be able to hang with the Rage when that time comes? :confused:

[Ducej11]

Currently the River City Rage are 3 - 0. They have WHOOPED the Sting twice and the Sting have beaten the Raiders.
Will the Raiders be able to hang with the Rage when that time comes? :confused:

THats a great question. Without a doubt the defense and the special teams can hang in there with them. Its the offense that I am worried about. But based on what I am hearing, that problem will be solved real quick.

You have to remember, this Raiders team almost beat SF with a terrible qb. SF put in a TD late in the game to make it seem not as close as it really was. It was a one score game the whole time. Fortune at Center worked great and allows Kalfelz to get back to a more natural tackle position. Fortune was a D3 All-American, I want to say twice. So it was nice to see him on the field this past weekend. There is a lot of depth on this team and just about all position. I think right now, it would be a solid game with River City with the Raiders just losing out, but with an addition within the next couple weeks, that could tip the scale in favor of the Raiders.

What a beast Eddie Bynes is, wow!

[Apex]

Its the offense that I am worried about. But based on what I am hearing, that problem will be solved real quick.

Ahhh ...I see you have dropped a hint on what the near future holds. I wont push any further, but will wait to be pleasantly surprised.
I will make sure I am present at Blue Cross when it is time for the River City game. That will be some great football.

[Indoorfootballguy]

River City will win, the additions of QB Ben Sankey, RB Randy Bell, and DB Patrick Jackson make them that much better

[RaiderNation]

Duce,

Can you drop any hints regarding QB? Section V guy?

[Bruiser]

Gotta go with Raptors South in this one.

Round Two of "Is a former CIFL powerhouse as good as the UIF?"

Roc gets their chance at redemption after SF won Round One.

[blanketman]

Are offense lost everyone other than Chris carter and Jamil Porter in its skill positions. Losing Mike Mikoliachek, Moe jackson, Noah Fahrenback on offense will take time to get it moving;however, we feel good about the future.The league has some great teams,right now at 1-2 ,we are not one of them....yet. lol

[blanketman]

Duce,

Can you drop any hints regarding QB? Section V guy?

No Qbs on the horizon.Hackett, Moe Jackson will be back by May 16th.

[big_dog]

Mo Jackson being back will be great, not sure who will get him the ball when they play a real defense. I can think of one who would fit nicely and since a close friend of his is now on the team would be a good fit. As far as the rest of the team they are right there with anyone, defense is outstanding, special teams have been good, coverage against SF was a little weak, but they have seemed to fixed that. The coaching staff is still one of the best, week one Eddie seemed a little tenative to throw the ball and with that kid at QB I cannot blame him. That seemed to change last week, although again, it was Muskegon. Bob will do the right thing with this team, there is no doubt in my mind.

[Championbuilder]

If Rochester can get a Qb I think they will be fine!

[douglas mccarthy]

Wish some of you guys knew more about football!!!im out!!!

[douglas mccarthy]

So let it be written!!!

[big_dog]

I will never understand why an owner would want to post here. It really makes no sense to me.

You think Omar is the answer because of the Muskegon game? OK, time will tell. I wont even comment, I wont need to, we will see over the next few weeks. I think he made good decisions and spread the ball around, although against a less than stellar defense. Again, time will tell. There must be a reason why Perry Patterson is being looked at, please don't say as a backup, HE IS UNHAPPY AS A BACKUP, so no reason to think he would be happy to come here and be a backup.

[RaiderNation]

Mac,

Even if you leave Omar as the # 1, the team has only one QB. You must know that isn't sound mgmt. You can't go through the entire season with 1 QB and cross your fingers.

[big_dog]

From what I hear Dave could be the backup. :)

[exit322]

Mobility + Issues

[douglas mccarthy]

josh he could pop a pimple on you from thirty yards

[exit322]

So could Tom Brady, but that doesn't mean anything if he can't get out of the way of the rush (see Super Bowl loss to Giants), which comes fairly quick in this little indoor game.

[big_dog]

I honestly believe dave could do it, no kidding. Dude is talented. I give him props on that and being a salesmen, unfortunately as a salemen he makes a lot of promises and sometimes he "forgets". But the guy has a big heart and means well. I know we have had our differences but it is because we are both hard headed, plain and simple. Dude can ball.

[Championbuilder]

I think Omar is a good back-up. He is respectful when being coached, he is quick and is mobile.

The problem that he has ALWAYS had in Indoor Football (in my eyes) is that he Flushes out way to quick...So in scouting him, if a team uses their best two D-ends alternating them on one side all night consistantly... Omar begins to run EVERY Play and that is especially bad because he is only good running to the left! In 8 Man ball that can really throw off an offense by everyone crashing on his first move, which is to run.

Rochester will be around for awhile, that is what I like about them. The ownership has highs and lows (same as any MINOR league team) Indoor would not be the same without them! I always get a good laugh out of Dave's comments and Josh (exit) is usually trying to up peoples knowledge...Isn't that what keeps this fun??

Gotta throw a shoutout to my: www.okcyarddawgz.com and to the great start on the season...

[big_dog]

Is there any doubt now that Omar cannot get the job done? Where are Doug and Dave now?

[blanketman]

If Rochester can get a Qb I think they will be fine!

Thanks Championbuilder.We do his name is Perry Patterson.He played very well. Exit just so you know we had 5400 non inflated fans at the game.Bynes had 4 sacks and 12 qb pressures. Dixie Wooten is a great player, he gave them a chance.Best effort so far, we are 3-3 and beat a good team... .Having Darius Smith and Mo Jackson made a huge difference,but this kid Nguti was unreal.

[RaiderNation]

Nguti played like a beast, Darius and Mo are winners, Patterson looked sharp, and the Raiders are back.

[phydeaux72]

I hate to say I told you so, but ... I TOLD YOU SO! Patterson is the real deal. Abilene had to let him go to make room for QC. But honestly, they could've gone either way. Good job Rochester for giving this kid a shot. He will deliver.

[Ducej11]

Perry did very well last night. Moves very well in the pocket to buy some extra time. Was late on a couple throws and tended to lock onto his receivers just a bit, but he even admited after the game he still needed to work on a few things. Perry Patterson, what a great idea to go out and get him :)

The raiders team last night looked like the Raiders I have gotten used too. A solid offense and an out of this world defense. River City did not even give rochester a chance on special teams, they kicked it out of bounds and was willing to give it to them at the 20 every time but once. And what did rochester do, return it past mid field.

All round great effort by everyone. It was nice to see Mo slowly worked back in. I really like the make up of this team right now. You win in the trenches and thats this teams strength's right now. The offensive line with Kenton, Fortune, and Nguti was fantastic last night.

[blanketman]

Duce 11,Its amazing how little people want to talk about are successes right?Did you see the size of the crowd. Biggest ever,over 775 more than are championship game. Exit wont bring that up though.Lol thats ok , i like him even more now.

[exit322]

It's a good start. But by having to keep coming on here every time you get something right to go "nyah nyah Exit, we're smarter than you," you're still missing the forest through the trees. One game where things come together and you fill up half your arena isn't going to change what is four years of trends.

Averaging 5700 or so, though, will.

[blanketman]

It's a good start. " you're still missing the forest through the trees. One game where things come together and you fill up half your arena isn't going to change what is four years of trends.

Averaging 5700 or so, though, will.

What a spin by saying half are arena. We have a capacity of 11,500. No one is even close to that. Wow,lets sell out stadium of 1750 thats better. My point involves your obvious instigating nature,which does make me laugh,but more importantly,your slants of stupidity.Here is an s.a.t question for you. If the price of an arena is the same and all thing else are even which of the following teams had more fans. Team A sold out its 4400 arena. Team B had 5300 empty seats in their 11000 capacity arena.Pick wisely,Burger King University has a job for you with the correct answer.

[exit322]

Team A is always in a better position there. Costs are almost always less in the smaller arenas, and most of the time in smaller places, if a team's going to fill it up they get cuts on concessions, too. At worst, Team A's going to be in an equal financial position after expenses as Team B with that kind of attendance.

You're still missing the forest through the trees. You had one well-attended game. That's not a trend. That well-attended game probably put your season average over 2,500, which is still highly mediocre, and well below the 4,800 that Sioux Falls team is averaging with their constant arena sellouts.

Besides, you're in the worst division in the IFL. You'll have to beat someone with an actual shot at winning the IFL title before anyone considers you a contender. And Maryland this week ain't it, either.

[Apex]

Darn it! I missed the game. :(:(
I guess I'll have to catch it on Time Warner on Demand.

I guess the team is back to true Raider form.

[blanketman]

Team A is always in a better position there. Costs are almost always less in the smaller arenas, and most of the time in smaller places, if a team's going to fill it up they get cuts on concessions, too. At worst, Team A's going to be in an equal financial position after expenses as Team B with that kind of attendance.

You're still missing the forest through the trees. You had one well-attended game. That's not a trend. That well-attended game probably put your season average over 2,500, which is still highly mediocre, and well below the 4,800 that Sioux Falls team is averaging with their constant arena sellouts.

Besides, you're in the worst division in the IFL. You'll have to beat someone with an actual shot at winning the IFL title before anyone considers you a contender. And Maryland this week ain't it, either.

You have to start reading better. I wrote if all expenses are even. Go back and read slower this time, you will find that is what was written. lol

[blanketman]

What a spin by saying half are arena. We have a capacity of 11,500. No one is even close to that. Wow,lets sell out stadium of 1750 thats better. My point involves your obvious instigating nature,which does make me laugh,but more importantly,your slants of stupidity.Here is an s.a.t question for you. If the price of an arena is the same and all thing else are even which of the following teams had more fans. Team A sold out its 4400 arena. Team B had 5300 empty seats in their 11000 capacity arena.Pick wisely,Burger King University has a job for you with the correct answer.
Read carefully this time you will see where i wrote it. Let me guess 840 on you s.a.t score combined right?Probably higher in math. No just kidding. By the way real avg for games is 3450.

[exit322]

I don't know why you guys are working sooooo hard to impress me. I'm hardly in your geographic footprint.

[Ducej11]

Duce 11,Its amazing how little people want to talk about are successes right?Did you see the size of the crowd. Biggest ever,over 775 more than are championship game. Exit wont bring that up though.Lol thats ok , i like him even more now.

I was presently surprised by the crowd. It was so long since the Raiders played at home, I was expecting an "out of site, out of mind" kind of crowd. I want to say a lot of it has to do with a Syracuse QB being the mean behind the center now. Perry is a guy that a lot of the fans here watched at Syracuse for a long time. So they can identify with him.

[mathetyes]

Greetings all - enjoyed Saturday's game, and I was pleased with Joyner's development as time went on, but wondered what happened to Jamil Porter? Is he with the team and injured? Has he moved on? Was he not played for another reason?

I would be pleased for any information.

[blanketman]

He was suspended for one game. Reason involved not attending practice. By the way exit i could care less about impressing you. I do it because Paul has created a fun stress reliever for me. It gives veryone an equal opportunity to express themselves. Like i said , you crack me up both on a negative and positive. keep it up!

[douglas mccarthy]

I was presently surprised by the crowd. It was so long since the Raiders played at home, I was expecting an "out of site, out of mind" kind of crowd. I want to say a lot of it has to do with a Syracuse QB being the mean behind the center now. Perry is a guy that a lot of the fans here watched at Syracuse for a long time. So they can identify with him.

i think alot of it has to what bob and dave have done and what they are putting on the feild and the much better talent we are playing against has alot to do with it

[Ducej11]

i think alot of it has to what bob and dave have done and what they are putting on the feild and the much better talent we are playing against has alot to do with it

yes and no. No one here in Rochester gives a damn whether we are playing River City, Muskegon, or Maryland. So whether it's River City or Rock River, it doesn't matter to the fans of Rochester. What matters is that Rochester has some players that the area can identify with again. Like having Nguti is huge, right after an article about him having a workout with the Giants, he gets signed by the Raiders. Fantastic pick up too. Having guys like Kohn, Manning, Mager, was getting the raiders away from what made them loved. Home grown people from this area taking on the rest of the world. The best crowds we had was in the beginning of the championship year, before the Armory owners took all the bleechers away, and that team was just about all home grown. Thats what people want to see, how our Western, NY kids stack up against the rest. That is what Dave put all his blood, sweat, and tears into getting going, building up our home grown football players and giving them a chance to compete at a high level.

[exit322]

Yeah, that's the issue with indoor football - very rarely are long-term rivalries established.

Sioux Falls/Sioux City/Omaha/Billings - long-term rivalry.

Wyoming and Billings fans would love those two to be back in the same league.

Rochester and Port Huron was on its way until the Pirates ran out of cash.

Beyond that, there's not much. So the local players are even more important, as duce noted.

So is treating fans well, but we don't need to put too much on your plate at once.

[douglas mccarthy]

allways trying to insult someting we are doing. your a piece of work to say the least our fans have a great time at the games you would now if you have ever been to one

[fred1965]

allways trying to insult someting we are doing. your a piece of work to say the least our fans have a great time at the games you would now if you have ever been to one

Wow, someone who writes on a second grade level resorting to name calling. Speaks well about Rochester.

[douglas mccarthy]

not you again lmao
i dont think saying piece of work is name calling

[fred1965]

Then what's a@@, you misspelling a 3-letter word?

[exit322]

The fans had a very good time at the two Raiders games I've attended.

Not because of anything the organization did, mind you, but because they were able to amuse themselves. Granted, ESL made it easy for a small group of people to get very loud.

[douglas mccarthy]

Try comming to the new arena josh and make your mind up then

AND THERE ARE ALOT OF THREE LETTER WORDS THAT BEGIN WITH A

[Caballo Diablo]

AND THERE ARE ALOT OF THREE LETTER WORDS THAT BEGIN WITH A
There are 71 of them, which one should we use - lol

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[Caballo Diablo]

Then what's a@@, you misspelling a 3-letter word?
"josh you are a a@@ "



Wouldn't that be;

Josh, you are an a$$ ;)

[nksports]

I'm feeling a lot of love here. Group hug everybody. (put that knife down)

[exit322]

So, to get back on topic:

Yes, they are able to handle the Rage.

But they can't handle Maryland...and presumably, anyone else whose defense has a pulse.

[Ducej11]

So, to get back on topic:

Yes, they are able to handle the Rage.

But they can't handle Maryland...and presumably, anyone else whose defense has a pulse.

back to hibernation for some. I was at the game, I went to DC to visit a friend and we decided to go to the game since it was not that long of a drive, and i was embarrassed. I was telling him how we lost the first matchup but this team was starting to turn the corner. And then to get a lack luster performance like that. I saw players sitting down, not caring. Chris Carter was trying to get the guys up and wake up but they just would not respond. I saw an emotionless team that looked like they just didn't care whether they won or lost. I have no idea why that could be. The first offensive play of the game Patterson connected on a bomb for a touchdown on a perfect pass. That should have gotten them going right away but it didn't. I really dont know who to blame for this loss.

[coachrob6]

back to hibernation for some. I was at the game, I went to DC to visit a friend and we decided to go to the game since it was not that long of a drive, and i was embarrassed. I was telling him how we lost the first matchup but this team was starting to turn the corner. And then to get a lack luster performance like that. I saw players sitting down, not caring. Chris Carter was trying to get the guys up and wake up but they just would not respond. I saw an emotionless team that looked like they just didn't care whether they won or lost. I have no idea why that could be. The first offensive play of the game Patterson connected on a bomb for a touchdown on a perfect pass. That should have gotten them going right away but it didn't. I really dont know who to blame for this loss.Rochester just loss to a better team that night, no need blame anyone.

[blanketman]

We had are chances ,no doubt. Dropped passes were critical ;however, I feel Maryland, with that Qb, has a strong chance in beating many teams. They are a well coached team with great athletes. They beat us in all phases of the game.I dont believe they lost with this Qb starting.They will be tough for any team to beat right now.They are big fast and downright good.Hats off!

[coachrob6]

We had are chances ,no doubt. Dropped passes were critical ;however, I feel Maryland, with that Qb, has a strong chance in beating many teams. They are a well coached team with great athletes. They beat us in all phases of the game.I dont believe they lost with this Qb starting.They will be tough for any team to beat right now.They are big fast and downright good.Hats off!thanks , your guys ain't to bad neither, just a matter of time to gel. good luck

[mathetyes]

Will Porter be playing in tomorrow's game against Saginaw? Whereas Joyner appeared to fill the role against River City, I think Porter was sorely missed against Maryland. I hope at least that Porter comes back before we play Maryland at home (and I expect we'll need him against Fairbanks, too). I am definitely looking forward Maryland at home. I hope the game tomorrow goes as records and home-field advantage will suggest. Optimistic for a good clean fun game - to set things up before the big Alaska trip and then Maryland around the corner. With so many byes early, this team has a great opportunity to prove itself still.

First goal - secure third place over Saginaw for the playoff berth. Work for tomorrow night …

[mathetyes]

Greetings all. Apparently Saginaw has indeed fallen apart since they beat the Raiders out there. I'm pleased and impressed with Patterson's play for Rochester and Gano showed some good signs running for Rochester.

What I noticed most of all on Saturday, though, was missing players. Porter is still gone, and Mo Jackson, who was back for River City, and apparently two plays against Maryland, is now gone again. Eddie Bynes, who was even mentioned by name in the newspaper article before the game, was also absent.

Will any of these players be traveling to Fairbanks, or even around for the home game against Maryland (or traveling to El Paso for that matter)? I think if we have them and they are in playing shape (having practiced with the team &c), we should have a shot in all three of those games. If not, I think we're likely to lose all three. If we have some . . . could go either way. I hope we do get the talentful version of this team on the field again soon. With it - I think the Raiders have a shot at winning a first playoff game, and maybe even hosting it. Without it, they'll make it in by virtue of being better than Saginaw and Muskegon, but then get shoved out as easily as they got in.

Excited to see as things unfold, and I hope to hear more about the status of these key players ...

[blanketman]

we just added alan Zimatis to team. All american from penn state. Hackett ,bynes and zimatis will be in uniform against those teams

[BananaCat]

we just added alan Zimatis to team. All american from penn state. Hackett ,bynes and zimatis will be in uniform against those teams
Has Maryland clinched a first round bye, or do the Raiders and Rage still have a chance to get the bye if they end up tied with Maryland with 4 losses each?

[blanketman]

Has Maryland clinched a first round bye, or do the Raiders and Rage still have a chance to get the bye if they end up tied with Maryland with 4 losses each?

Maryland has first round bye against rochester however, if river city wins out they win division if maryland loses next 2

[exit322]

So that's a definite "maybe."

[BananaCat]

Maryland must have the first round bye now since RiverCity lost. Newspapers out of Maryland seem to confirm it.

[coachrob6]

Maryland must have the first round bye now since RiverCity lost. Newspapers out of Maryland seem to confirm it.Yes that's correct

[blanketman]

Rochester just loss to a better team that night, no need blame anyone. Completely different story tonight. Totally beat out marylands defense. Although I must say , before the concussion, Spinner kept it close. Furthermore, their coach actually outcoached eddie. I . E. offsides on forth and 1 and the onside kick at end of first half. No Doubt we were the better team tonight.spinner wouldnt have helped in second half. our game all the way today.

[Ducej11]

Completely different story tonight. Totally beat out marylands defense. Although I must say , before the concussion, Spinner kept it close. Furthermore, their coach actually outcoached eddie. I . E. offsides on forth and 1 and the onside kick at end of first half. No Doubt we were the better team tonight.spinner wouldnt have helped in second half. our game all the way today.

they didn't have an onsides kick to end the first half, the kicker kicked it and it hit one of the guys in the front line. It did not appear to be intentional.

[gostlouis]

Going back to the original question this post had. I guess when it comes to the playoff games, the answer is no. :):-D Yaaaaaay!