New Teams in ABA

[NIFL&ABA]

Best move in the ABA right now. 10 new expansion teams. Thanks to Mr.Gadsen and my dad (HP).

[Anonymous Hardhat]

NIFL & ABA,

I hope you're right, but I also hope that your dad isn't spending your inheritance on the ABA. As long as the ABA is run by people like Joe Newman, he should have put it in a trust fund investing in T-Bills for you. Good luck.

Anonymous

PS I read your quote. We are not haters. We are just pointing out the obvious flaws in the ABA. Your father would be wise to listen to them (instead of assuming that we are haters) and try to get Joe Newman to improve upon them.

[NIFL&ABA]

Hardhat

Trust me my Father is not blowing "All his Money" on the ABA his main concern is his 2 NIFL teams. C'mon 10 new ABA teams at $10,000 each thats 100,000 grand and after going 50/50 with Oronde he only spends $50,000 thats chump change. My dad is just trying to see if he can milk some money outta the whole ABA thing. If he doesnt oh well. Thats why he says it like rolling some dice, because there isnt much at stake.

[Anonymous Hardhat]

NIFL & ABA,

So what happens when Oronde and your dad have to dump another 750,000 into each team to get them to the point where he can "milk some money outta the whole ABA thing"? I don't disagree with the fact that $10,000 for each team is "chump change", which is a topic for another day, but I don't agree with the fact that he is only going to dump that kind of money into each team if he is truly going to do it right. What are Oronde's and your dad's plans for these teams?

Anonymous Hardhat

[Ken, Steelheads fan]

Hardhat

...My dad is just trying to see if he can milk some money outta the whole ABA thing. If he doesnt oh well. Thats why he says it like rolling some dice, because there isnt much at stake.

Hmmmm. That's an interesting business plan.

[NIFL&ABA]

What are Oronde and my Dad going to do with these 10 teams? Simple, get them up and running for a season then get rid of them. It's easy. You guys just think too much. It's all about the $$. Neither my Dad nor Oronde give a rats ass about the "ABA". Who does?? Well other than Paul Newman. Im tellin you this is just a side thing their focus is on the NIFL.

Oh and it aint like my Dad or Oronde been buisness men all their life either, there just getting involved in the game.

[Sam Hill]

Wow.

Just wow.

[TEN]

Sounds like Joe Newman and these owners are made for each other!

Well, the jokes on all of them...

On Newman because these guys "don't give a rats ass about the ABA."

On the owners...because of how much money they will have to dump into their teams to keep them going (that road trip to Hawaii is a killer!).

Let's see how many of those 10 franchises are still playing at Christmas.


It continues to stun me how much "credibility" the media gives this league. It is a train wreck! But a fun train wreck to watch!

[Anonymous Hardhat]

NIFL & ABA,

I'm beginning to doubt whether you are really HP's son. If you are his son, I don't think that you would be leaving posts on a messageboard that make such bold (and, quite frankly, stupid) statements about the 10 franchises that your father and Oronde purchased from the ABA. If your father is going to do it right (ie, get them up and running), he is going to need to invest no less than 500-750,000 per franchise and market the hell out of them to even approach the success of Arkansas. If your father thinks that he is going to "milk the ABA" by selling the teams after getting them up and running, he has not done his homework. As long as Joe Newman is granting franchises to every Tom, Dick and Harry in every major and minor city in North America and South America, no one will pay any more than the $10,000 franchise fee for your father's franchises. Think about it for a second. Why would I pay more than $10,000 for the franchise in Naples if Joe will let me set up a new team within 20 minutes of Naples for $10,000.

Anonymous

[meyes]

I hope NIFL&ABA is not who he says he is. If what he says is true, nothing good can come of having the owners of these ten teams in ANY league. I wouldn't want any dealings with them at all.

[Sam Hill]

NIFL & ABA,

I'm beginning to doubt whether you are really HP's son. If you are his son, I don't think that you would be leaving posts on a messageboard that make such bold (and, quite frankly, stupid) statements about the 10 franchises that your father and Oronde purchased from the ABA.

He would if he's a rich kid with more silver spoons than brains.

[Common Sense]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Well, someone with a shred of common sense, not you NIFL&ABA. Isn't the NIFL the league that was run so poorly that it's better teams up and left after this past season and started their own league, the United Indoor Football league? I personaly consider all indoor football other than the original Arena League as a bunch of local Y league level players parading as pro sports for a buck from fans that don't have a real sport to support. However, if fake rich boy is going to act like his dad's teams/leagues are so great, why not support a legitimate league? Both teams from the last NIFL championship, Lexington and Sioux Falls both left the NIFL!
I think pretend rich boy should also have his daddy put some money into the XFL, WBL and USFL while they're at it!

[Rocky]

UIF is just as big a mess as the NIFL. Ask Dayton. Even then, the growth and stability of minor league indoor/arena football is head and shoulders above their basketball counterparts. But enough about football.

If any minor league owner is purchasing franchises to make money, they're in for a rude suprise. Doesn't happen very often.

[Common Sense]

Hey Rocky, want to see me pull a rabbit out of my hat? I wasn't saying the UIF was anything good. I was pointing out that the NIFL is so bad that teams left it to make up the UIF, which as you say is "as big a mess as the NIFL". I was pointing out teams were leaving it, just like the ABA's better teams were rumored to be leaving that hopeless mess of a league. Either way, UIF or NIFL, they are all a made-up "game" that deserves about as much coverage as a professional kickball league would get. It's a made-up sport. From what I've observed it's fanbase is compromised of overweight beer drinkers that really don't have a sport to follow so they jump on the latest fad so they seem important because they can't talk real sports with other sports fans.
(It's been awhile since we had some real good controversy. This should do it!)

[Rocky]

ABA threads breed controversy. Chaos.

[michigan mike]

Pretty clear that NIFL/ABA is not who he says he is.

I figure the way to turn a quick buck buying ABA teams by the dozen is to sell the franchises before you've played a game.

[Anonymous Hardhat]

Michigan Mike,

With a statement like that, are you sure that your real name isn't Indiana Joe? HA HA.

Either NIFL&ABA isn't who he says that he is or NIFL&ABA's dad told him to keep his mouth shut on messageboards. Who knows? Either way, I still question the ability of one group to own and operate 10 franchises. If Isiah couldn't do it (with all of his financial resources and reputation) with a well-established league, how are Oronde and HP going to do it in a league still looking to establish itself? I wish them well, but I'm not holding my breath. Time will tell.

Anonymous

[NIFL&ABA]

Wow you guys just have so much to say. I mean ABA this and ABA that. I dont respond every hour maybe beause I actually have a life and a good life at that. You all can stop posting on the subject and just see for yourself. All of you are just spectators and that is all you will ever be. Your decisions dont count neither your opinions.

[Sam Hill]

Dad's money's a hell of a thing, ain't it, junior?

Get some life experience of your own, then we'll talk, m'kay?

[dshaw62197]

More proof that the ABA threads on this site are the most humorous of all. Thanks to everyone for a terrific bust-up. :lol:

[Anonymous Hardhat]

NIFL&ABA,

Hey HP, Jr. Tell your dad that there is another franchise available in Little Rock. I'm sure that his other 10 franchises are increasing in value at such a rapid pace (with Arkansas' and Utah's exit from the league) that he'll want to "milk as much money as possible" out of the Little Rock market during the 2005-6 season before he sells each of them at a 1000% profit before the 2006-7 season. You and your dad are as delusional as Joe Newman.

Anonymous

PS I'm not a hater, just a realist.

[Pounder]

What two NIFL teams did this "owner" own again?

I've noticed that the NIFL has erupted with issues in Kissimmee, Daytona Beach, Cincinnati, Dayton, and probably Miami... not quite over and above the usual NIFL issues. Why the **** do they bother?

I shouldn't be offered this much schadenfreude.

[rams80]

I believe Gadsen was associated with Cincinnatti and Miami.

[Anonymous Hardhat]

If they are concentrating more on the NIFL than the ABA (according to HP, Jr.), I hate to see what will happen with their ABA teams if they can't keep their NIFL teams in good standing. Since we have yet to hear even one announcement from these guys in one of their 10 ABA markets, I'm sure that they will join the ranks of the "5 games and out" teams in the ABA... that's assuming that they even start the 2005-6 ABA season.