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Aaronhere
07-15-2008, 05:04 PM
I did not include the following leagues in my research since they did play a game or their status as "major league" remains up in the air:

1989 - MINOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL SYSTEM - Representatives from fourteen teams have just completed two days of meetings in May to discuss logistics. According to founder Ed Watkins, the league, which would begin play on August 1, 1989, would not play its players, but believed that the league's growth potential will allow salaries to be given within a few years. Seventeen teams were oringially planned, but only fourteen were organized - Birmingham, Seattle, West Palm Beach (FL), Hayward (CA), Fairfax (VA), Portland (OR), Wilmington (NC), Raleigh, Colorado Springs, Omaha, Tulsa, Scranton (PA), Lowell (MA) and one Canadian team which will be based in Ottawa. Each franchise paid a $10,000 league entry fee and $2,000 to attend the initial league meetings. Nothing more was heard from the MLFS.

1991 - INDEPENDENT FOOTBALL LEAGUE - At a May 1991 press conference in Florida, organizers of the Independent Football League announced the formation of their new football league which is scheduled to begin play in August 1992. Sixty-four cities were listed as candidates for the sixteen charter franchises. The cities included Birmingham, Huntsville (AL), Mobile (AL), Atlanta (GA), Jackson (MS), Nashville (TN) and Memphis (TN). The IFL concept was based on a revenue sharing plan, fan ownership and wide-open games. The two main founders were William Rasmussen and Les White. Rasmussen, the league's media consultant, founded the cable sports network ESPN. White, the league's television coordinator, owned several television stations in North Alabama. White said he is already in discussions with one major network as well as several cable and regional outlets to televise the IFL's games. The league never got off the ground.

2000 - SPRING FOOTBALL LEAGUE - The league, consisting of the Houston Marshals, San Antonio Matadors, Los Angeles Dragons and Miami Tropics, did play a short 2-game schedule. The original schedule had four games listed for each team, but the league folded.

2009 - UNITED NATIONAL GRIDIRON LEAGUE - The league was originally called the United National Football League, and says it will begin play in January 2009 with a minimum of eight teams, including one based in the state of Alabama. Joe Cribbs, former NFL and USFL star, was hired as the league's commissioner in April 2008, after being let go by the AAFL's Team Alabama franchise when the league postponed their first season to 2009. The UNFL/UNGL plans to play a ten game season in January through April, bridging the gap between the Super Bowl and the National Football League's draft, which previously had been football-free. This timeframe was chosen in an effort to provide its players maximum exposure prior to the NFL Draft. Each of the teams will have a 60-man roster that will be comprised of a maximum of 40 I-A players, allowing for a minimum of 20 players from I-AA programs or below to be evaluated. Tomlin said the UNFL will be a development league for players who go undrafted by the NFL or wish to improve their draft status immediately after concluding college careers. To limit costs, no player would be paid more than anyone else ($1,000 a week) and salaries would come from the league office, with money generated by franchise fees initially. Interestingly, players would have to move on after two years in the UNFL. In several reports, and on their website, the league said it hopes to have twenty-two charter teams ready to play next year but could begin play with as few as eight. Two Texas franchises have already been sold and teams are being negotiated in Kansas and New York. Its business model centers on selling franchises and buying a franchise costs $1.5 million. Co-founder Marvin Tomlin expects tickets to sell for about $11 a game. Te league also claims it has spoken to the NFL Network, ESPN and Fox Sports about broadcasting games. omlin says the league will try to establish itself as a Triple-A version of the NFL with the long-term goal of partnering with the established league to help develop talent. Stay tuned.......
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preeths
07-16-2008, 11:00 AM
Enjoyed the research!

indoor fan
07-16-2008, 06:35 PM
The SFL's Houston franchise was the "Marshals". The SFL was definetly Major League, as players were paid $1300 per game (and were actually paid). The SFL had many ex NFL players as coaches (Doug Cosbie, Jim Jenson, Guy McIntire, Keith Millard, Hugh Green, etc)
The announcement of the XFL was the demise of the SFL.

You forgot the World Indoor Football League in 1987 (Mouse Davis was the San Antonio HC) and the Rookie Football League proposed in 2002, I believe.

Aaronhere
07-16-2008, 11:26 PM
The SFL's Houston franchise was the "Marshals". The SFL was definetly Major League, as players were paid $1300 per game (and were actually paid). The SFL had many ex NFL players as coaches (Doug Cosbie, Jim Jenson, Guy McIntire, Keith Millard, Hugh Green, etc)
The announcement of the XFL was the demise of the SFL.

You forgot the World Indoor Football League in 1987 (Mouse Davis was the San Antonio HC) and the Rookie Football League proposed in 2002, I believe.


I did not include indoor leagues, only outdoors, but thanks for information.

BigTex
07-18-2008, 11:33 AM
There was the Fan Ownership Football League created by Dave Dixon set to play in 1999.As the name implies, the fans would own each individual team. Never got off the ground.

Also set to play in '99 was the All Star Football League run by Joe Kapp and Craig Morton and the United States Fan Ownership League.

1999 was also supposed to be the start of the All American Football League with teams in Dallas, NY, LA, Detroit w/Forrest Gregg as coach, Chicago, Phila., Houston, San Francisco, Miami, Boston, Wash. DC and Tampa.

1992 we had the Professional Spring Football League hold a draft but never played with teams in Carolina Cougars, Miami Tribe, New England Blitz, Tampa Bay Outlaws, Washington Marauders, Arkansas Miners, Nevada Aces, New Mexico Rattlesnakes, Oregon Lightning Bolts and Utah Pioneers.

Rookie Football League 2005- teams in Birmingham, Chattanooga, Huntsville, Jackson, Little Rock, Memphis, Mobile and Shreveport.

Aaronhere
07-18-2008, 12:36 PM
There was the Fan Ownership Football League created by Dave Dixon set to play in 1999.As the name implies, the fans would own each individual team. Never got off the ground.

Also set to play in '99 was the All Star Football League run by Joe Kapp and Craig Morton and the United States Fan Ownership League.

1999 was also supposed to be the start of the All American Football League with teams in Dallas, NY, LA, Detroit w/Forrest Gregg as coach, Chicago, Phila., Houston, San Francisco, Miami, Boston, Wash. DC and Tampa.

1992 we had the Professional Spring Football League hold a draft but never played with teams in Carolina Cougars, Miami Tribe, New England Blitz, Tampa Bay Outlaws, Washington Marauders, Arkansas Miners, Nevada Aces, New Mexico Rattlesnakes, Oregon Lightning Bolts and Utah Pioneers.

Rookie Football League 2005- teams in Birmingham, Chattanooga, Huntsville, Jackson, Little Rock, Memphis, Mobile and Shreveport.

I covered those in the other sections. I will be adding the Rookie Football League, when I found some confirmed information. Any links?

indoor fan
07-18-2008, 10:12 PM
Rookie Football League was proposed in 2002. I don't think they even had any franchises confirmed. The "owners" owned an independent minor league baseball team in Washington or Oregon

logoguru
07-21-2008, 07:22 PM
I think the only way to do Minor League Football or compete with the NFL is through the MLS formula where each team is owned initially by the league and slowly sold to independent owners. Almost all the teams 12 years later have their own owners. And it worked for the most part.

GeneCrowley
07-30-2008, 11:49 AM
I had never heard of some of those (and for good reason).

I never knew Dixon was that involved in so many phantom leagues! At least he tried, I suppose.

Are you going to do the same for other sports?

By the way, I've sent you a private message if you'll be so kind to reply.

jwalters
07-31-2008, 01:10 AM
The Minor League Football System did play games. I believe they laste three years. Their last championship was played in Pueblo, Co. between the Pueblo Crusaders and the Charlotte Barons. Charlotte actually had home field but they decided to play in Pueblo for a percentage of the gate because they knew they would make more there. Pueblo averaged more than 5,000 fans per game so I'm sure there were quite a few people there. Anyway Pueblo won. The athletic director at CSU-Pueblo worked for the team and I'm sure he will tell you all about it.

tops804
07-31-2008, 01:41 AM
The Minor League Football System did play games. I believe they laste three years. Their last championship was played in Pueblo, Co. between the Pueblo Crusaders and the Charlotte Barons. Charlotte actually had home field but they decided to play in Pueblo for a percentage of the gate because they knew they would make more there. Pueblo averaged more than 5,000 fans per game so I'm sure there were quite a few people there. Anyway Pueblo won. The athletic director at CSU-Pueblo worked for the team and I'm sure he will tell you all about it.

The research I did showed that the league played in 1989 and 1990. Saint
Louis, then "NFLless", was to be the crux of the league but the city showed
no interest. Teams I recall (Lynn, Mass.), (Scranton Wilkes-Barre, Pa.),
(Macon, Geo. {Called the Middle Georgia Heatwave}), Either Fresno or
Sacramento possessed a team with the "California" title.

Score network, FNN's nightly feed actually aired a few games in 1990. I
believe most of the teams I listed only existed for that season. In season
one, I believe the league had 11 teams.

jwalters
07-31-2008, 04:00 AM
From everything I have read the Minor League Football System was a pretty good league. I can't believe they were able to put forward as good a product as they did without ever paying players. That was league policy.