ABA and NBA to be sued ?

[a1sports]

Word on the street:

A large group of former ABA owners may be filing a law suit aganist the ABA, Joe and name the NBA as a co-defendant. The NBA will be named because they allowed the use of the ABA license with out supervising what Joe has done with the license.

In my opinion, the NBA has to take this seriously because they are responsible for allowing the ABA license to be used.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Word on the street:

A large group of former ABA owners may be filing a law suit aganist the ABA, Joe and name the NBA as a co-defendant. The NBA will be named because they allowed the use of the ABA license with out supervising what Joe has done with the license.

In my opinion, the NBA has to take this seriously because they are responsible for allowing the ABA license to be used.

What street?

What former teams?

[Pounder]

If there's any grain of truth to this...

...and who the heck really knows...

...it would do more than the SEC ever would.

Probably the best way to shut Joe down... unless he has a cache of vivid pictures of Davy Stern.

[Minor League Man]

If there's any grain of truth to this...

...and who the heck really knows...

...it would do more than the SEC ever would.

Probably the best way to shut Joe down... unless he has a cache of vivid pictures of Davy Stern.
I agree a1sports might be pretty unorthodox in a few of his posts, but he typically has reliable info.

They're just asking for it if they name the NBA as a co-defendant...

[TheStandard]

Like the NBA would care, their lawyers would brush that off like lint

[Sam Hill]

You left out "This proves Alex Wolff is a doodyhead."

[logoguru]

This should have been done in 2002-03 when it got ridiculous. I don't know how valid it would be in court since the NBA owns the license and can do whatever they want with it. If the ABA owners wanted the ABA brand to not fall into the wrong hands they shouldn't have sold it to the NBA. (hindsight is 20/20....except for that "owner" thats making bank off NBA TV rights in exchange for not having Kentucky in the NBA).
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[LightningMan]

Like the NBA would care, their lawyers would brush that off like lint
I don't think the point is that the NBA need be afraid of the lawsuit. I think the point is that the NBA wouldn't want the PR hassle of being associated with the Red, White, and Blue Flying Circus™ and so, being named, might yank the license to get away from the stink.

I don't know that that play will work, but that's what I think is being hoped for here.

[Pounder]

All we really got is hope.

I'm sure more than one lawyer for a former owner pointed out that the NBA is the cash cow in this scenario, and that's why they'd be named. We'd just hope that the NBA would have an "oh, by the way" moment on their way to frying lawyers and ex-owners into ash.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Then again, we may be overestimating the collective abilities of these "former ABA owners" to even put together a conference call, much less organize a lawsuit.

Of the 180+ teams that have faded to Bolivian (see Tyson, Mike), how many would have anything approaching a reasonable cause for a suit? 5? 10?

So many of these teams failed to last for a complete season. Were they sold a bill of goods? Perhaps. Did they themseleves look into their home market, the associated finances and requirements, and investigate the claims and history of the man behind the kitchen curtain? Most likely, no. As big a horse's hindquarters Joe may be - these owners weren't at gunpoint. Ten minutes on Google and they could see the sham that the ABA really is. Their failure to do their own diligence is their fault.

And as for the NBA - no way they would stay attached to such a suit. Their lawyers deal with tougher issues doing the morning crossword puzzle.

[Chuck the Writer]

Just another A1Sports fantasy piece, without any cited proof anywhere.

Honestly, I'd get better sources from listening to the elves in a hollow tree.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Just another A1Sports fantasy piece, without any cited proof anywhere.

Honestly, I'd get better sources from listening to the elves in a hollow tree.

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[TheStandard]

This should have been done in 2002-03 when it got ridiculous. I don't know how valid it would be in court since the NBA owns the license and can do whatever they want with it. If the ABA owners wanted the ABA brand to not fall into the wrong hands they shouldn't have sold it to the NBA. (hindsight is 20/20....except for that "owner" thats making bank off NBA TV rights in exchange for not having Kentucky in the NBA).


umm its St. Louis.

[LightningMan]

umm its St. Louis.
Yep. Kentucky was dispersed at the same time, but it was the St. Louis owners with the sweetest deal in sports history. For them to stop getting checks, the Pacers, Spurs, Nets, and Nuggets would have to all go out of business or the NBA would have to go totally defunct.

[TheStandard]

Yep. Kentucky was dispersed at the same time, but it was the St. Louis owners with the sweetest deal in sports history. For them to stop getting checks, the Pacers, Spurs, Nets, and Nuggets would have to all go out of business or the NBA would have to go totally defunct.

Yeah, they get to reap on the benefits.

Joe Newman on the other hand is like a fungus, it reaps on crap.

[Paul S]

Guys, I think A1 is spot on with this one.....

I heard from someone I trust about this. He basically told me to watch out and lay very low. . While some of you laugh at Joe and the ABA consider this.........

Some of these disgruntled ex-owners are not just ticked off at Joe. They are ticked off at posters on websites who when they tried to set up a business were immediately mocked online. This net they are casting might not just include Joe. It might not just be Joe and Dick. It might not just be Joe, Dick and the NBA.

It might include some people on websites who post about the league and have (in the minds of some contingency fee lawyer) gone and materially harmed the ex-owners through badmouthing the team, league, format etc.

Joes' use of sending out mass emails to people in the league and cc'ing half the planet might have come back to haunt him. All a couple of owners had to do was hit REPLY ALL and delete a couple of names and they had a list of all investors.

I don't know what "street" A1 heard it on but I was told much the same.

[The Magician]

... Some of these disgruntled ex-owners are not just ticked off at Joe. They are ticked off at posters on websites who when they tried to set up a business were immediately mocked online. This net they are casting might not just include Joe. It might not just be Joe and Dick. It might not just be Joe, Dick and the NBA.

It might include some people on websites who post about the league and have (in the minds of some contingency fee lawyer) gone and materially harmed the ex-owners through badmouthing the team, league, format etc.

I'm confused a tad bit here ...

So, are you saying, that ex-ABA owners are angry at (sports) message board posters because they posted opinions/comments, after the fact, and it potentially may have caused harm in trying to establish a future personal business?

[TheStandard]

Guys, I think A1 is spot on with this one.....

I heard from someone I trust about this. He basically told me to watch out and lay very low. . While some of you laugh at Joe and the ABA consider this.........

Some of these disgruntled ex-owners are not just ticked off at Joe. They are ticked off at posters on websites who when they tried to set up a business were immediately mocked online. This net they are casting might not just include Joe. It might not just be Joe and Dick. It might not just be Joe, Dick and the NBA.

It might include some people on websites who post about the league and have (in the minds of some contingency fee lawyer) gone and materially harmed the ex-owners through badmouthing the team, league, format etc.

Joes' use of sending out mass emails to people in the league and cc'ing half the planet might have come back to haunt him. All a couple of owners had to do was hit REPLY ALL and delete a couple of names and they had a list of all investors.

I don't know what "street" A1 heard it on but I was told much the same.

Ooooooh. I'm so shaking. ooooooooooooooh. I'm trembling. Ooooooooooooh. These idiot former owners want to Sue me ooooooooooooooh. Please. They can all kiss my behind. No one told them to be part of garbage.

[tops804]

Is anyone who "wronged" the ABA since 1967 fair game?

Yet I can't help but to think a verdict would cycle back to....Any business is
a risk, someone didn't do their homework (say...read message boards), and
now they want a diploma after failing the course?

Assuming they won this: What is the lost value of their ABA franchise? Dating
back to 2000, have we seen any ABA team draw a profit?

[LightningMan]

Things to remember about lawsuits:
Anyone can bring one on just about anyone else at any time Opinions (if not presented as fact or factual) may (depending on the jurisdiction) not be actionable The truth is an absolute defense
You can sue someone for saying things about you that you don't like, but good luck winning.

[nksports]

The analogy, and why such a lawsuit would fail miserably, is I buy worthless land in a Florida swamp. I was warned that such land is worthless and I shouldn't have done it. Therefore I sue the people who warned me the swamp was worthless, blaming them for the loss of value of the swamp land because they warned anyone who would listen the swamp land was worthless.

[tops804]

Just a thought --

Could the PBL sue the ABA owners since the Jacksonville Jam had to be
bailed out, and they came from the ABA?

...or better yet, could they sue the NBA? Talk about being laughed
out of court...

[Paul S]

Guys please understand...........................

I'm on your side and fully agree with you about the merits of such a lawsuit. Lightning Man makes a great point, the truth is an absolute defense. That doesn't take away from the fact that it might happen.

Like most people, I have an overall disdain for lawyers. Not all lawyers, but unfortunately the proverb of "one rotten apple spoiling the barrell" is applicable here. The idea that someone can sue a drycleaners for 189 million dollars for a lost suit, or a lady who spills coffee on herself can sue Mcdonalds because the coffee was too hot are two of many many many idiotic lawsuits our country has to deal with.

If you look back at my overall posts about 6-8 weeks ago there was a fairly dramatic change in my behavior and my direction of posts...........that action proves that I believed this person and took his advice.

Not saying its a slam dunk, not saying its gonna happen. Just be aware of it. Again, I agree with the overall idea that this would be a nuisance case and shown the door, but that doesn't mean I want anything to do with it or need it in my life.

[LightningMan]

By the by, the reason I know what little I know about lawsuits is because I was sued for saying something on the air many moons ago. It never made it to trial because of my last two bullet points.

[outsmart]

If this is true - then please let me know who to contact - I was the Owner of the Kansas CIty KNIGHTS for four seasons - five years - was CEO of the League for one year - paid the $25K to keep the NBA License in tack the year the ABA did not play - and was offered a minimal amount of equity in the new ABA and turned it down due to the fraud that has occurred - thanks

Jim Clark

[LightningMan]

Jim, the Detroit Panthers came back from hiatus to play this coming year in the PBL. Is this something Kansas City would be interested in, or ar you done with minor league basketball?

[TheStandard]

Jim Clark was a very respected man in Minor league basketball because he did things right. Look in regards of how he kept the name alive for the league and what did he get? Nada from Joe.

The ABA is a Fraud, Joe Newman is a Fraud(Oh F'n Sue me) The Owners that do get involved in their mess and do the ABAish things that they all tend to do are part of the fraud(Yeah Sue me again). From the Wray M. Wade's to the Steve Rodriguez to the Denise Pulphus to the Spider Ledesma's to that Crook in Hawaii and the CEO of the league that refused to pay his players on the Indiana Legends, they're all Frauds (Sue me). Et caveat emptor to all the ones that have ventured in this horrible scheme called the American Basketball Association.